Transit converted to beaver tail. Can't be legal?
Discussion
Nickyboy said:
Our long wheelbase sprinters used to weigh in at slightly over 1800kg unladen so i would guess something like that to be around 2000kg with the extra bodywork. As someone else said you wouldn't be able to carry much more than an average sized car before going overweight
Fairly obvious though, isn't it? Yes there's some going about with overweight loads, but I'm sure there vans and lorries with other none vehicular loads. The Transit isn't 'very illegal', but the load is.
Only FastBug and I seemed to have noticed that this idiot as cut down a Transit panel van (monocoque design) instead or starting with a chassis cab. This thing will be a liability.
The only panel van you could chop up to make a recovery truck is an Iveco Daily as they're the only panel van that's built on a totally seperate chassis.
The only panel van you could chop up to make a recovery truck is an Iveco Daily as they're the only panel van that's built on a totally seperate chassis.
MJK 24 said:
Only FastBug and I seemed to have noticed that this idiot as cut down a Transit panel van (monocoque design) instead or starting with a chassis cab. This thing will be a liability.
The only panel van you could chop up to make a recovery truck is an Iveco Daily as they're the only panel van that's built on a totally seperate chassis.
I sell commercial vehicles and have had several converted in to beaver tails The only panel van you could chop up to make a recovery truck is an Iveco Daily as they're the only panel van that's built on a totally seperate chassis.
As a panel van base vehicle it's totally unsuitable for use, VOSA would have a field day on a roadside check (and they would pull it) and I'd go as far as saying it's highly dangerous!
t400ble said:
My iveco recovery truck started out aa a LWB Hi top van
Yes but ivecos (even the vans) are built on a seperate chassis, the transit is not.Back in the day this mod would have weakened the chassis as on the prev transits (Mk6 back) the chassis cab had no floor and a new "top hat" section of chassis added to the lower half to strengthen it, the new transits dont have this extra "top hat" section as the lower chassis is strong enough, strength wise i wouldn't worry but registration wise i would, i'd want to see what the V5 says, i see a lot of these late transits converted to recovery, some leave the front section of roof on as well to help airflow i ge=uess over the vehical they carry ?
As for the single wheel axle, as already said single wheels are 3500 Kgs twins are 4600 but you loose 200- 300 ish Kgs with the extra wheels and H/D axle so only really gain 3/4 a ton, it's s imply not true you loose payload with the twin rear axle as the rated weight is higher when you have a twin wheel, doesn't work if you just fit a twin wheel rear axle you need to have the van replated, i'm talking from the factory.
Edited by S0 What on Sunday 25th January 16:24
S0 What said:
As for the single wheel axle, as already said single wheels are 3500 Kgs twins are 4600 but you loose 200- 300 ish Kgs with the extra wheels and H/D axle so only really gain 3/4 a ton, it's s imply not true you loose payload with the twin rear axle as the rated weight is higher when you have a twin wheel, doesn't work if you just fit a twin wheel rear axle you need to have the van replated, i'm talking from the factory.
But go over 3500kg and you'll need a tacho. Edited by S0 What on Sunday 25th January 16:24
Spangles said:
S0 What said:
As for the single wheel axle, as already said single wheels are 3500 Kgs twins are 4600 but you loose 200- 300 ish Kgs with the extra wheels and H/D axle so only really gain 3/4 a ton, it's s imply not true you loose payload with the twin rear axle as the rated weight is higher when you have a twin wheel, doesn't work if you just fit a twin wheel rear axle you need to have the van replated, i'm talking from the factory.
But go over 3500kg and you'll need a tacho. Fast Bug said:
MJK 24 said:
Only FastBug and I seemed to have noticed that this idiot as cut down a Transit panel van (monocoque design) instead or starting with a chassis cab. This thing will be a liability.
The only panel van you could chop up to make a recovery truck is an Iveco Daily as they're the only panel van that's built on a totally seperate chassis.
I sell commercial vehicles and have had several converted in to beaver tails The only panel van you could chop up to make a recovery truck is an Iveco Daily as they're the only panel van that's built on a totally seperate chassis.
As a panel van base vehicle it's totally unsuitable for use, VOSA would have a field day on a roadside check (and they would pull it) and I'd go as far as saying it's highly dangerous!
That transit was designed with a pay load of 800kg... with a car it would crumple like a banana, so the vendor has tried to make a ladder chassis over the original non box section chassis. The mind boggles, I have honestly never seen anything so heath Robinson in my life, I kind of want to applaud the "coach builder" for effort but its just so ridiculous it beggars belief!!!
That said... if you dissect a coach built motorhome many are actually built on an arrangement like this... I saw a 2010 transit coach built MOTORHOME which was on finance and the cheeky financee ripped the chassis cab from the body and gave the finance company the cab when they repossessed it and it was based on a transit like this. The body on the back was just welded into the cab and the cab bed was fibre glassed into it.
I had a recovery to collect the other day, was shocked when I arrived to a vivaro van and one like this, luckily it was only down the road. Think the van had the vrs unit in it too so it was bloody heavy.
Like most thinks, you have to bend the rules a little.
Another Vauxhall with seized injectors, we soon sorted it out.
Carl
Like most thinks, you have to bend the rules a little.
Another Vauxhall with seized injectors, we soon sorted it out.
Carl
Edited by C. Grimsley on Sunday 25th January 18:47
Edited by C. Grimsley on Sunday 25th January 18:48
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