RE: Kia announces a hot hatch

RE: Kia announces a hot hatch

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Neil O

75 posts

232 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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It'll have to be a very good product seeing as the non-sporty top spec is around £23k!

blearyeyedboy

6,334 posts

180 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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Nearly every "concept image" from the dawn of time has had massive wheels and tiny windows that don't emerge when the reality of real-world cars hits home. Watch this space- but it'll need to be more than a pretty face.

In the unlikely event anyone from Kia reads this: Get it right in the same vein as the current Renaultsport Megane or the EP3 Civic Type R and you'll create a fiercely loyal following. Screw it up and you'll make your next attempt much harder.

mattbvw

375 posts

216 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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blearyeyedboy said:
Get it right in the same vein as the current Renaultsport Megane or the EP3 Civic Type R and you'll create a fiercely loyal following. Screw it up and you'll make your next attempt much harder.
I've had a few Renaultsports and rate them extremely highly but I doubt Kia are gunning for this upper performance end of the market (and especially not with their first attempt)... and the bigger volume is further down the hardcore tree...

Mister3man

280 posts

148 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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Looking forward to these...as mentioned before a 7 year warranty would be a real bonus.

I doubt it will be an ugly duckling either, I've seen a few Kias lately that look far more premium than their badge would suggest.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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Ther is something very Scandanavian about the exterior design of the ne Kias! Like a Korean Saab, but in a good way

blearyeyedboy

6,334 posts

180 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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mattbvw said:
blearyeyedboy said:
Get it right in the same vein as the current Renaultsport Megane or the EP3 Civic Type R and you'll create a fiercely loyal following. Screw it up and you'll make your next attempt much harder.
I've had a few Renaultsports and rate them extremely highly but I doubt Kia are gunning for this upper performance end of the market (and especially not with their first attempt)... and the bigger volume is further down the hardcore tree...
True... and I suspect you're right. But I think they'd help their image in the UK much more in the long run if they pitched it at the Renaultsport level.

v8will

3,301 posts

197 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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mattbvw said:
The 3-dr cee'd that was unveiled a few months ago looked really good so this has some promise. Doubt it'll ever be up to the established performance hot hatches but they're new to this so maybe they're just aiming for a decent 'warm' hatch to start with. There's a 1.6 Turbo engine in their sister company's Veloster Turbo... that has 184bhp in EU spec and 201bhp in US spec.
I thought US spec cars where generally lower BHP due to the lower fuel octane available over there.

LuS1fer

41,157 posts

246 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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v8will said:
I thought US spec cars where generally lower BHP due to the lower fuel octane available over there.
They don't have lower octane, they use a different rating system. If anything they have a wider range. You are sort of right in that US cars tend to be tuned to run on lower octane ratings than European cars but when you tune your Mustang, you stick in the 93 Octane tune which is the same as 100 octane here.

richardalanlee

1,734 posts

138 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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The KDM Kias look awesome. The K5s, K7s and especially the K9 executive car stand out as real design studies, but then that shouldn't be a surprise because their chief designer is Peter Schreyer, ex Audi, of original TT fame...

There is a K9 on a stand at Incheon airport, and it is jaw dropping.

I think the K5 is now available in the UK under a different badge. A lot of Koreans get them in white with black roof, mirrors, spoiler kits and they really look the business.

Another thing to note is thet Hyundai and Kia are the same company, or at least Kia is a Hyundai brand/owned company.

v8will

3,301 posts

197 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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LuS1fer said:
They don't have lower octane, they use a different rating system. If anything they have a wider range. You are sort of right in that US cars tend to be tuned to run on lower octane ratings than European cars but when you tune your Mustang, you stick in the 93 Octane tune which is the same as 100 octane here.
Do you know anything more about that? I'd have assumed octane ratings would be standardised world wide.

Cheers

LuS1fer

41,157 posts

246 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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v8will said:
Do you know anything more about that? I'd have assumed octane ratings would be standardised world wide.

Cheers
Google MON RON PON and all will be revealed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating


Edited by LuS1fer on Thursday 29th November 15:27

Facian

56 posts

138 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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Mojocvh said:
Boy at work has an astra "Nuremberg" edition, quite a tidy car with plenty of "go" when you need it.
Seems a strange choice of name for a limited edition hot hatch? Does it have a particular dislike of anyone wearing Hugo Boss clothing?

LuS1fer

41,157 posts

246 months

Saturday 1st December 2012
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Facian said:
Mojocvh said:
Boy at work has an astra "Nuremberg" edition, quite a tidy car with plenty of "go" when you need it.
Seems a strange choice of name for a limited edition hot hatch? Does it have a particular dislike of anyone wearing Hugo Boss clothing?
It's only available on trial and after that, it's war.