getting money out of a dealer

getting money out of a dealer

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anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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Honestly you just need to talk to the place you bought it and have a discussion with them about the faults.

It is their choice as to whether they get the car repaired themselves or come to an arrangement with you to pay another garage to do it. You've not had the work done already have you?

I'd say they should fix the failed HG and possibly the radiator too unless they can find evidence of recent stone damage (or similar) which has resulted in the failure. They may be able to say the radiator is wear and tear but after only 95k I wouldn't be expecting to replace it, unless it was a well known issue with the car (e.g. BMW E39 5 series go through them quite regularly) which I don't think it is.

The turbo is a bit noisy on a 95k miles car, not a surprise. Tons of the vRS 130's have been remapped so maybe it's had a hard life, or maybe it's perfectly normal (as was suggested on the other thread). In any case it hasn't failed and is working so you can't expect anything to be done about that - a bit noisy and worn after 95k miles is not reason for replacement.

Personally I wouldn't mention the brake pads or the turbo as I reckon that will just get their back up.

It's all moot until you've spoken to them and seen what they're prepared to do.

Zoon

6,727 posts

123 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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dave_s13 said:
My new (to me) car is a 56 plate (built early 07) ford galaxy 2.0 tdci with 63k miles on it. According to that logic it's nearly scrap. The truth is, apart from the dodgy ac condenser, it looks, drives and even smells like a new car.

Obviously the dmf, clutch, injectors and fuel pump will now explode!

:-)
You are aware of the common turbo problems on that car aren't you?

TA14

12,722 posts

260 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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charltjr said:
I'd say they should fix the failed HG
don't be too hasty to say that it has failed:
dieseluser07 - the OP - said:
Head gasket gone (not confirmed yet but I can't personally see a leak)

Sheepshanks

33,092 posts

121 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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Zoon said:
dave_s13 said:
My new (to me) car is a 56 plate (built early 07) ford galaxy 2.0 tdci with 63k miles on it. According to that logic it's nearly scrap. The truth is, apart from the dodgy ac condenser, it looks, drives and even smells like a new car.

Obviously the dmf, clutch, injectors and fuel pump will now explode!

:-)
You are aware of the common turbo problems on that car aren't you?
That engine is certainly a gamble. I'd be buying a warranty at least as safety net - be interesting to see what the cost would be.

Sheepshanks

33,092 posts

121 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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TA14 said:
charltjr said:
I'd say they should fix the failed HG
don't be too hasty to say that it has failed:
dieseluser07 - the OP - said:
Head gasket gone (not confirmed yet but I can't personally see a leak)
That was my point earlier - the only think we know for sure is it needs new brake pads, and we only know that for sure as cars nearly always need new brake pads.

TA14

12,722 posts

260 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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Sheepshanks said:
TA14 said:
charltjr said:
I'd say they should fix the failed HG
don't be too hasty to say that it has failed:
dieseluser07 - the OP - said:
Head gasket gone (not confirmed yet but I can't personally see a leak)
That was my point earlier - the only think we know for sure is it needs new brake pads, and we only know that for sure as cars nearly always need new brake pads.
Hmmm, whilst that may be correct, as I mentioned earlier:
TA14 said:
As far as I can gather we don't even know whether new pads are needed - have they worn unevenly? Are they worn out? Or are they just 20% worn? I've seen them frequently changed in all three scenarios.

Sheepshanks

33,092 posts

121 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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Yes, that's what I meant. You can always find someone who'll say they need replacing.

TA14

12,722 posts

260 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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Sheepshanks said:
Yes, that's what I meant. You can always find someone who'll say they need replacing.
Ah, it's always difficult to express tone on the internet beer

MG CHRIS

9,092 posts

169 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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Sheepshanks said:
Zoon said:
dave_s13 said:
My new (to me) car is a 56 plate (built early 07) ford galaxy 2.0 tdci with 63k miles on it. According to that logic it's nearly scrap. The truth is, apart from the dodgy ac condenser, it looks, drives and even smells like a new car.

Obviously the dmf, clutch, injectors and fuel pump will now explode!

:-)
You are aware of the common turbo problems on that car aren't you?
That engine is certainly a gamble. I'd be buying a warranty at least as safety net - be interesting to see what the cost would be.
The 2.0 is normally a failed actuator arm for the turbo a cheapish fix well compared to a turbo replacement, in circles of the tdci engines bar the 1.8 which is a ford engine while the 1.4/1.6/2.0 are French engine the 1.6 are the weakest by far also a fking pain to work on.

surveyor

17,904 posts

186 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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It's unfair to tar all dealers with the same brush.

I bought a well used S60 T5. over 100k, and ten years old.

As I used it on long journeys, the gearbox became very 'bangy' and was not right.

Arranged to call in one day and we went off to see his gearbox man. He thought it needed at least a valve block rebuild, cost circa £800. Dealer was quite happy to do this on a £2k car. We agreed that it if it needed more I would contribute as I'd have then a rebuilt gearbox.

As it happened the coolant light came on, I panicked and we undid the deal. In hindsight I'm sure that the coolant light was related to an airlock as I'd just changed the thermostat.

dave_s13

13,818 posts

271 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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MG CHRIS said:
Sheepshanks said:
Zoon said:
dave_s13 said:
My new (to me) car is a 56 plate (built early 07) ford galaxy 2.0 tdci with 63k miles on it. According to that logic it's nearly scrap. The truth is, apart from the dodgy ac condenser, it looks, drives and even smells like a new car.

Obviously the dmf, clutch, injectors and fuel pump will now explode!

:-)
You are aware of the common turbo problems on that car aren't you?
That engine is certainly a gamble. I'd be buying a warranty at least as safety net - be interesting to see what the cost would be.
The 2.0 is normally a failed actuator arm for the turbo a cheapish fix well compared to a turbo replacement, in circles of the tdci engines bar the 1.8 which is a ford engine while the 1.4/1.6/2.0 are French engine the 1.6 are the weakest by far also a fking pain to work on.
LAHLAHLAHLAHLAHLAH//not listening!!!/////LALALALALALAH

Trouble with buying ANY car is that when you look them up on the internet that are all terminally flawed. I'm playing a numbers game with this one, I'm figuring there are quite a few thousands TDCI engines doing the rounds, are they ALL fooked ater a few years? I hope not. They are also praised by Addison Lee as being a good work horse...

The only safe bet is to buy new (or a Lexus)....neither of those were an option for me.

OP.....have you taken the car back to the dealer yet??