RE: Webber joins Porsche

RE: Webber joins Porsche

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forzaminardi

2,293 posts

188 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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Smitters said:
I notice Horner can't resist twisting the knife a bit in the BBC article.


Horner complained that the notice Webber had given him was "a bit short".
"I had a call from Mark this morning at about nine o'clock, and that was the first I knew about it. I spoke with him and he said he had reached his decision," he said on Thursday.
"He obviously decided to take things into his own hands.
"I think the guys in the factory are a bit more disappointed that they read it on the internet than heard something direct, but that is the way these things are sometimes."

Comes off as a bit classless in my eyes. Couldn't manage Webber properly through his time there, and he's still got half a season but Horner sees the right thing to say as speculating how the whole factory feels on Webber's exit and stir the pot? How about how the felt when Seb ignored team orders to pass Webber and take an undeserved win? Did half of the factory not turn up Monday because "even though my boss says I need to be in work, I'm going to ignore him as I understand it's perfectly acceptable to do my own thing here at Redbull."?
It's a shame that Horner so consistently has to behave like such a pathetic moany d*ck with respect to Webber, yet keeps stumm when old one-eye pipes up with his personal brand of b*llocks.

zebedee

4,589 posts

279 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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b0rk said:
Audi and Porsche now compete with "customer" cars in various GT3 based series so the VAG brand policy of not competing internally appears to have been dropped. Customer GT3 based cars at the likes of the N24 and Spa24 are barely disguised factory entries.
And Lamborghini. And Bentley next year.

CocoUK

963 posts

183 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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forzaminardi said:
Smitters said:
I notice Horner can't resist twisting the knife a bit in the BBC article.


Horner complained that the notice Webber had given him was "a bit short".
"I had a call from Mark this morning at about nine o'clock, and that was the first I knew about it. I spoke with him and he said he had reached his decision," he said on Thursday.
"He obviously decided to take things into his own hands.
"I think the guys in the factory are a bit more disappointed that they read it on the internet than heard something direct, but that is the way these things are sometimes."

Comes off as a bit classless in my eyes. Couldn't manage Webber properly through his time there, and he's still got half a season but Horner sees the right thing to say as speculating how the whole factory feels on Webber's exit and stir the pot? How about how the felt when Seb ignored team orders to pass Webber and take an undeserved win? Did half of the factory not turn up Monday because "even though my boss says I need to be in work, I'm going to ignore him as I understand it's perfectly acceptable to do my own thing here at Redbull."?
It's a shame that Horner so consistently has to behave like such a pathetic moany d*ck with respect to Webber, yet keeps stumm when old one-eye pipes up with his personal brand of b*llocks.
Indeed, Horner could have handled this better without, once again, coming across as a pr*ck. I doubt Webber thought anything but would happen, hence him conducting all his Red Bull business direct with Mateschitz.


Anyway, I've heard the real reason for the move is due to the rolling start of the races...

Mezzanine

9,251 posts

220 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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CocoUK said:
Anyway, I've heard the real reason for the move is due to the rolling start of the races...
rofl

barlers

18 posts

135 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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Once upon a time a German with questionable driving ethics reduced F1 to a complete bore. Revs! Excitement! Round and round they go, every two weeks, and the German wins. History has a habit of repeating itself. Does anyone honestly think that there is any more chance of a top driver stepping into Mark's seat than there was of Ferrari putting one in to partner Michael?

Nick644

241 posts

268 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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barlers said:
Once upon a time a German with questionable driving ethics reduced F1 to a complete bore. Revs! Excitement! Round and round they go, every two weeks, and the German wins. History has a habit of repeating itself. Does anyone honestly think that there is any more chance of a top driver stepping into Mark's seat than there was of Ferrari putting one in to partner Michael?
I hear Raikkonen is quite handy. Even won a world championship apparently.

RobGT81

5,229 posts

187 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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sjn2004 said:
Whats the bet Audi pull out of sportscars in 2015? Are VAG just transferring the funding from Audi to Porsche? Remember Bentley, same thing there.
No, the Porsche P1 budget is coming from Porsche, rather than the VAG pot.

barlers

18 posts

135 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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Nick644 said:
I hear Raikkonen is quite handy. Even won a world championship apparently.
Not when Schumi was there! Get real, chaps - drivers like Schumacher, Vettel and Andretti always had (have) clear number twos......


LaMamba

187 posts

131 months

Saturday 29th June 2013
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The music on that Porsche Experience video is terrible.
Great car tho.


mikebrownhill

123 posts

199 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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barlers said:
Nick644 said:
I hear Raikkonen is quite handy. Even won a world championship apparently.
Not when Schumi was there! Get real, chaps - drivers like Schumacher, Vettel and Andretti always had (have) clear number twos......
Too true - and don't forget Alonso, who left McLaren over that same issue. Mark Webber was never anything other than number two to Vettle as far as RB were concerned and lets face it, based on his performance, that was about right. Doesn't take anything away from the bloke himself but he was not world championship material in F1 - good luck to him in sports cars though.

Redlake27

2,255 posts

245 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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I bet he's looking forward to coming back to Silverstone next year with a car and tyres that he can drive flat out for a whole race on.... If anything, Silverstone showed that he's making an upwards career move in terms of technology....

epom

11,622 posts

162 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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Was shouting at the TV for him yesterday for the last few laps, has been a long time since I've gotten in the least bit excited by a grand prix. Good man Webber.

zebedee

4,589 posts

279 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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Redlake27 said:
If anything, Silverstone showed that he's making an upwards career move in terms of technology....
and racecraft

VladD

7,874 posts

266 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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doogz said:
Has Webber always been an obvious number 2 driver?

Was he the number 2 driver in 2010 when he was winning the championship until a few races from the end of the season?
I think some people have the blinkers on Doogz.

Massa was a definite number 2 to Schumacher, but he certainly wasn't to Raikonnen. Some people are number 2 by contract and some because they are simply outclassed by their team mate. You can't do anything about the first type, but you certainly can about the second. I'm sure if Mark is ahead of Seb, he won't be pulling over and giving up the place without a fight.