£1500 4x4. Me again, Would a P38 Range rover be in range...
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Piersman2 said:
edo said:
Mine was a compressor. Abut 300 IIRC. Good luck!
Or about £10 if you're half handy with a spanner. 
You usually only need the little seal inside the pump and about an hour of time if you follow the online instructions. Oh, and aren't a complete fecking useless idiot.
silverback mike said:
_Batty_ said:
silverback mike said:
I'm fully expecting odd stuff to go wrong. And yes the air suspension is marvellous but it's a dog carrier, and I live in the middle of no where so I'm tempted to whip some coil springs on.
I'll investigate this snag and take it from there, The lead and softward allegedly arrive on Monday....
I do like it though, it's a lovely old thing..
Air shouldn't be that difficult to sort. Bags are quite cheap now. Perhaps youve a small leak that caused the pump to run flat out, killing it?I'll investigate this snag and take it from there, The lead and softward allegedly arrive on Monday....
I do like it though, it's a lovely old thing..
And yes, warning lights are amusing. For the previous three days it was telling me the ignition key was in when quite clearly it was in my pocket.
The system is fundamentally very simple to look after. The only complex bit is the EAS valve/control box, which seems fairly robust. It's all the other bits that are a bit flakey when they get old.
The pump is usually fecked because the £10 seal in it has worn, think of it as nothing more complicated than a motorised bicycle pump. The seal between the piston and the body wears a bit and the pump has to work longer to fill the reserve tank under the car.
The airbags are cheap and cheerful apparently, I never had to replace one of these.
The pipes. Pipes themselves are not a problem , it's the various joints especially at the EAS. Get some leak detector, or soapy water, and see if any of the joints there bubble indicating a leak.
With mine I found that the pump was overheating. There's an overheat circuit built in which disables the pump. My pump seemed to take about 24 hours to 'unheat' once the overheat had been triggered.
A combination of lots of short journeys, parking at uneven locations and a weak pump meant the pump was running almost continuously and then would overheat. So I wired in a short cut switch which would activate the pump and override the overheat protection, and a couple of lights on the dash so I knew when the pump was running and when the system was up to full pressure. I also replaced the seal in the pump.
Sorted after that.
Never a problem with it again.These are great cars, mine had a few things wrong with it, I think I worked my way through most fo the standard issues you'll find on the web pages dedicated to it, but most of them are just irritating really, nothing much to worry about especially if you're happy to tinker.
In fact I was so impressed with it, I've stayed with RRs and bought a L322 to replace it and use it as my everyday car now.
I must have done something very wrong in a previous life It's back!!! A set of seals and off and running, rear exhaust valve stuck closed. All fixed and air suspension working well now......just thought I would update you chaps.
1600 miles so far, only one problem
Oh, and a squirt of wd40 down the ignition barrel cured the fact that it though the key was still in.
1600 miles so far, only one problem
Oh, and a squirt of wd40 down the ignition barrel cured the fact that it though the key was still in.
silverback mike said:
It's back!!! A set of seals and off and running, rear exhaust valve stuck closed. All fixed and air suspension working well now......just thought I would update you chaps.
1600 miles so far, only one problem
Oh, and a squirt of wd40 down the ignition barrel cured the fact that it though the key was still in.
1600 miles so far, only one problem
Oh, and a squirt of wd40 down the ignition barrel cured the fact that it though the key was still in.
edo said:
silverback mike said:
It's back!!! A set of seals and off and running, rear exhaust valve stuck closed. All fixed and air suspension working well now......just thought I would update you chaps.
1600 miles so far, only one problem
Oh, and a squirt of wd40 down the ignition barrel cured the fact that it though the key was still in.
1600 miles so far, only one problem
Oh, and a squirt of wd40 down the ignition barrel cured the fact that it though the key was still in.
silverback mike said:
It's back!!! A set of seals and off and running, rear exhaust valve stuck closed. All fixed and air suspension working well now......just thought I would update you chaps.
1600 miles so far, only one problem
Oh, and a squirt of wd40 down the ignition barrel cured the fact that it though the key was still in.
Has it been off the road all this time? 1600 miles so far, only one problem
Oh, and a squirt of wd40 down the ignition barrel cured the fact that it though the key was still in.
marmitemania said:
Never ever put WD40 in an ignition barrel, it washes the grease out and does not lubricate properly and also attracts more crud into the lock. You should use graphite you can get it from locksmiths or suchlike or you could grind up a pencil inner and use that, anything but WD40.
Normally I'd agree, but on a £1500 scrunter, it's whatever works until the knackers yard beckons: cable ties,duck/t tape & WD40 rule.
Get your graphite powder here for pennies. No connection to me, I bought some a while back to fix some sticky padlocks
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Graphite-powder-10-20-50...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Graphite-powder-10-20-50...
P38's are difficult to live with sometimes. They need lots of looking after and lots of patience but in return you get a very capable 4x4. EAS puts everyone off but its really easy to repair and fault find. You can change an air spring in about 15-30 mins per corner. Just make sure you look at everything carefully when you go to purchase one.
Wet footwells indicate leaking O rings or blocked aircon ducts
Noisey engines (knocking, tappety, chuffing. tappping) all signs of slipped liners or HG
Saggy Head Linings
Most of the electrics will be tempermental. Heated seats, cruise, and Air Con probably wont work
But who cares, you can pick these up from £1000 - £2000 now and for the amount of car its a bloody bargain
Wet footwells indicate leaking O rings or blocked aircon ducts
Noisey engines (knocking, tappety, chuffing. tappping) all signs of slipped liners or HG
Saggy Head Linings
Most of the electrics will be tempermental. Heated seats, cruise, and Air Con probably wont work
But who cares, you can pick these up from £1000 - £2000 now and for the amount of car its a bloody bargain
guru_1071 said:
we have a P38 rangie and its great, tows beautifully.
in the two years we have had it (bought from the auctions for 2500, 60,0000 miles one owner) its needed a back exhaust (sounded great when it fell off) and a front to back brake pipe burst (easy fix)
the only thing you have to do is just not think about the fuel economy!
we also have an old 200 tdi disco, again, a great car, its mega high mileage and has munched a few parts over the years, but it tows great (but very slow compared to the P38) - but can be fixed so easily when things do break
I bought a 1995 4.6 HSE for £1500, with 70k on the clock. I bought it as a project and have replaced brakes, shocks and radiator for about £400 in parts. Learn the tricks and even the EAS system is not too much of a hassle. Disconnect the RF receiver to the alarm for even fewer issues. Buy yourself a Faultmate for a few hundred quid and save thousands in rip-off bills from clueless "experts".in the two years we have had it (bought from the auctions for 2500, 60,0000 miles one owner) its needed a back exhaust (sounded great when it fell off) and a front to back brake pipe burst (easy fix)
the only thing you have to do is just not think about the fuel economy!
we also have an old 200 tdi disco, again, a great car, its mega high mileage and has munched a few parts over the years, but it tows great (but very slow compared to the P38) - but can be fixed so easily when things do break
Comfy, roomy, drives well, it's built like a tank, goes anywhere and I am still ahead of the game financially...
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