RE: Ford Fiesta Black Edition: Driven (briefly)

RE: Ford Fiesta Black Edition: Driven (briefly)

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budgie smuggler

5,409 posts

161 months

Saturday 21st June 2014
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kathyp said:
Lot of people say the Swift sport, ostensibly this vehicle's main competitor, is ugly.

Think Ford have done Suzuki a massive favour though, because not only is this a couple grand more with lots less kit, but put the swift next to this monstrosity and it looks a beaut.
The Ford looks ugly but also aggressive and modern.
The Swift is not ugly, but it looks boring, as does the Fabia VRS. It looks like an last generation car that old people would drive.

None of that matters to me, but I think it probably does to the people who would be interested in this car.

dukebox9reg

1,574 posts

150 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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Rather them do a decent diesel in a warm fiesta. A 130bhp 1.6 diesel would temp me a hell of a lot more than this supposedly warm economical version.

Zad

12,714 posts

238 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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Yeah those massive 1100kg cars with only 140bhp, what are they thinking of? That thing will hardly move when you add 14% (2 passengers) to its mass.

rolleyes

I imagine the engine/turbo will need replacing about as often as any other petrol 140bhp turbo engine. Ford won't have tested them at all, or installed them in hundreds of thousands of vehicles around the world in the last 2 years. Oh wait...

I'm not saying it isn't hideous to look at and poor value compared to the ST, but 140bhp really isn't under-powered, and turbo technology has come a long long way since the 1970s.

GTIAlex

1,935 posts

168 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Sorry to bump an old topic but saves starting a new one.

Any owner reports on these?

Been pricing up a Focus ST-2 Diesel or one of these.


Focus STD is a bit overkill for my needs, i.e short commute not too many miles.

This seems to fit the bill, cheap insurance, cheap to run and I get privilege discount through my work.

Perhaps a Fiesta ST but again seems overkill for my needs, I already have two weekend cars for fun (classic mini) and camping (vw camper).


This seems a good middle ground to me.

Dan Friel

3,655 posts

280 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Have had my Red Edition for a couple of weeks, and first impressions are very good. Have covered 800 miles, so still being careful but the ecoboost has enough "go". I do too many miles to have an ST, and Red Edition ownership should be perfect. Cheap to run, fun on a B road but comfortable enough for longer distances. I paid £13k for a new one with some options, which seems ok value.

This will be interesting to you: http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/compari...

Mountune will be releasing upgrades through the year, and that will be tempting. Others are already claiming remaps to 170bhp...

Richyboy

3,741 posts

219 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Flipping heck I've got an aygo on order as a cheap runabout, should've got one of these fiestas.

GTIAlex

1,935 posts

168 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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Richyboy said:
Flipping heck I've got an aygo on order as a cheap runabout, should've got one of these fiestas.
Put my deposit down today! biggrin

Dan Friel

3,655 posts

280 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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Even Clarkson likes them (see the Sunday Times today).. although he doesn't actually say that much about the car, as per usual.

SH7

3 posts

111 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Right, I have been lucky enough to have been provided with the Fiesta red edition as a courtesy car and have previously owned a Swift Sport, which I really liked.

As much as I hate to admit it, the Ford is superior in every way - save for possibly it's looks imo.

The engine is just 'silly' for a 1.0 litre and pulls through every gear like a hammer - where the Suzuki would be gasping for breath. There is not a chance that the Suzuki would keep up on long sweeping 'B' Roads. The 1.0 litre is quite a bit faster - whatever the manufacturers figures say.

Would I buy one? not at over £15k I wouldn't. But it is as much fun as the 306 Rallye I used to own!

SH7

3 posts

111 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Zad said:
Yeah those massive 1100kg cars with only 140bhp, what are they thinking of? That thing will hardly move when you add 14% (2 passengers) to its mass.

rolleyes

I imagine the engine/turbo will need replacing about as often as any other petrol 140bhp turbo engine. Ford won't have tested them at all, or installed them in hundreds of thousands of vehicles around the world in the last 2 years. Oh wait...

I'm not saying it isn't hideous to look at and poor value compared to the ST, but 140bhp really isn't under-powered, and turbo technology has come a long long way since the 1970s.
Believe me, you will be surprised how sprightly this is, even with four on board.

HJMS123

988 posts

135 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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SH7 said:
Believe me, you will be surprised how sprightly this is, even with four on board.
I think the in gear power is a lot better than people expect!

The 0-60 seems very slow ... I believe for insurance purposes.

SH7

3 posts

111 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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HJMS123 said:
I think the in gear power is a lot better than people expect!

The 0-60 seems very slow ... I believe for insurance purposes.
It is. Seriously, I was shocked that this thing is a 1.0.
I have owned quite a few 'hot hatches' and would definitely say low 8.0's

Dan Friel

3,655 posts

280 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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SH7 said:
Right, I have been lucky enough to have been provided with the Fiesta red edition as a courtesy car and have previously owned a Swift Sport, which I really liked.

As much as I hate to admit it, the Ford is superior in every way - save for possibly it's looks imo.

The engine is just 'silly' for a 1.0 litre and pulls through every gear like a hammer - where the Suzuki would be gasping for breath. There is not a chance that the Suzuki would keep up on long sweeping 'B' Roads. The 1.0 litre is quite a bit faster - whatever the manufacturers figures say.

Would I buy one? not at over £15k I wouldn't. But it is as much fun as the 306 Rallye I used to own!
Good to see a review against the Swift. Thanks for that.

Still enjoying mine, now with 4000 miles on it, and a morning spent around the Silverstone GP circuit also done. It's a decent bit of kit. As you say, through the gears it pulls really well. Gearing is a little strange (at silverstone the limiter in third was kicking in at just under 90mph, but then you can also happily cruise about at 30mph in fourth..), but I'm used to that now. I'm not fussed about 0-60 times, but read that AutoExpress timed it at 8.6sec.

Lap of Silverstone here (I'd never driven Silverstone before, or this car on track, so was getting used to it all.. so lot's to improve on): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB5M-fr-vug

I got mine new at £12.5k, and think that's a fair price.


Edited by Dan Friel on Tuesday 31st March 17:07