New Nissan GTR without the masks

[carerra g tea]

Valves needing adjustment?

[carerra g tea]

stephen300o said:

Arn't the major Japanese marques building the same flagship car, some variety please.

No, they're just using the same regulation silver no.34 paint as required by their Transformer-Pokemon overlords.

Edited by carerra g tea on Friday 19th October 09:35

[Miguel]

Jderh said:

I actually quite like the look of it, but why sell it under the Nissan badge when Nissan is launching Infinity in the UK soon?? It would be a good car to launch with.

Good point, but since the Skyline GTR has a cult following and has always been a Nissan, it makes sense for them to keep it that way. Still, you would think that it would make sense for Nissan to sell the GTR in the US as an Infiniti since no Skyline GTR's were ever sold in the US, but it turns out that (at least, this is what I've read in American magazines) that the car is also well known in America due to its presence in video games.

Miguel

[Miguel]

Fittster said:

Bencolem said:

. Problem is, I'd go for the base 911 if that's the case - particularly when servicing is taken into consideration (I'm guessing its going to be frequent, expensive hard to get and painful).

I think Porsche labour charges may be higher than Nissan's.

Not to mention that the Japanese approach to anything tends to take things such as how easy it is to live with into consideration. The Germans have a history of complicating the hell out of a design for even minimum gains. A clutch swap in my old 1983 Porsche 944 was a long, tedious job. A friend recently told me about all the crazy high-tech complexities of his MB CL500 and what he had to go through in order to unlock the car and get it started when he found it with a dead battery. As he said to me, none of that would've happened in a Lexus.

Miguel

[carerra g tea]

Not sure, but I think you are confusing security with ease of service. Japanese cars are renowned for being easy to work on/mod. German cars are not. All cars get harder to break into as you go up the price ladder. BMW, Mercedes, Lexus, Ferrari, Cadillac...you'd have a tough time defeating all of their door locks with a slim jim.

[jon-]

Miguel said:

Fittster said:

Bencolem said:

. Problem is, I'd go for the base 911 if that's the case - particularly when servicing is taken into consideration (I'm guessing its going to be frequent, expensive hard to get and painful).

I think Porsche labour charges may be higher than Nissan's.

Not to mention that the Japanese approach to anything tends to take things such as how easy it is to live with into consideration. The Germans have a history of complicating the hell out of a design for even minimum gains. A clutch swap in my old 1983 Porsche 944 was a long, tedious job. A friend recently told me about all the crazy high-tech complexities of his MB CL500 and what he had to go through in order to unlock the car and get it started when he found it with a dead battery. As he said to me, none of that would've happened in a Lexus.

Miguel

Try getting the alternator out of my MR2 turbo without dropping the whole rear subframe then The 350z is actually quite nice to work on, though they put the dipstick in quite possibly the stupidest place ever.

[Miguel]

jon- said:

Miguel said:

Fittster said:

Bencolem said:

. Problem is, I'd go for the base 911 if that's the case - particularly when servicing is taken into consideration (I'm guessing its going to be frequent, expensive hard to get and painful).

I think Porsche labour charges may be higher than Nissan's.

Not to mention that the Japanese approach to anything tends to take things such as how easy it is to live with into consideration. The Germans have a history of complicating the hell out of a design for even minimum gains. A clutch swap in my old 1983 Porsche 944 was a long, tedious job. A friend recently told me about all the crazy high-tech complexities of his MB CL500 and what he had to go through in order to unlock the car and get it started when he found it with a dead battery. As he said to me, none of that would've happened in a Lexus.

Miguel

Try getting the alternator out of my MR2 turbo without dropping the whole rear subframe then The 350z is actually quite nice to work on, though they put the dipstick in quite possibly the stupidest place ever.

Sure, but, comparing like to like, a Porsche Boxster (being mid-engined) is probably even harder to work on.

Miguel

[Miguel]

mackie1 said:

130R said:

Hope so. 1600 kg is still 100 kg too heavy though IMO. If it came in at 1500 kg with a full tank and 530 hp then it will be impressive, 1600 kg dry is fat.

The M3 or RS4 or 911 Turbo all weigh around 1600kg so it's not like is any porkier than similar cars.

The 350Z is lardy for it's class/size, it's 250kg more than an RX8 or Boxster for example.

Comparing to a Boxster is unfair. Just check the price difference. While the 350Z is heavier than the RX8, I don't think the difference is quite 250kg, though I did drive both and, if anything, the RX8 feel at least 250kg lighter than the Z. Bottom line: The RX8 is purpose built on its own platform, while the 350Z shares architecture with sedans and SUV's.

Miguel

[collateral]

Both in base spec the 350 is quicker than a Boxster iirc

Edited by collateral on Friday 19th October 19:23

[Pvapour]

I think it looks fantastic, how will it compare to Toyota/Lexus effort? (if they are still making it)

Will it be an official UK model? (sorry if its been said, not read all pages)

& if so, when is it due for release so i can ghet a deposit down

[ndajani]

The Hitman said:

Why couldn't they make the front exactly like the Proto? It really does look so much better!

Because you cannot use carbon fiber like that on a production car.

[Mr Whippy]

The old Blade concept looked better still.

Hey ho.

Dave

[RobDickinson]

Miguel said:

Comparing to a Boxster is unfair. Just check the price difference. While the 350Z is heavier than the RX8, I don't think the difference is quite 250kg, though I did drive both and, if anything, the RX8 feel at least 250kg lighter than the Z. Bottom line: The RX8 is purpose built on its own platform, while the 350Z shares architecture with sedans and SUV's.

Miguel

Real world the RX8 comes in a tad under 1300kg's with fuel, or about 1310kg's with leather option. Pretty sure the 350z is 1530kg's

Thing is everything about it is made for it, suspension, drivetrain, gearbox, all built for just that model, no compromises (apart from price).