Focus ST: When will they come down in price?
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I'd love one to be honest but I really struggle to see how they're holding their value.
The majority were bought on tick by the kind of people who really can't afford to run them - I would imagine, due to increased fuel prices and a poor mpg figure, there would be a plethora on the market at rock bottom prices.
The oldest ones are now 6 years old with around 80k on the clock so why are they not dropping below 6k?
The majority were bought on tick by the kind of people who really can't afford to run them - I would imagine, due to increased fuel prices and a poor mpg figure, there would be a plethora on the market at rock bottom prices.
The oldest ones are now 6 years old with around 80k on the clock so why are they not dropping below 6k?
GroundEffect said:
True, they are holding their value strangely-well but I wouldn't buy one solely for the pitiful fuel economy (25mpg average and the likes).
From what I've heard on PH and from friends and colleagues who own or have owned them, 25mpg is an optimistic estimate!Still not bad cars though.
£7-8k seems fair to me.
Up your budget to around 10 and you would get a much newer (possibly facelift car).
The focus that the car is based on has proved generally free of huge faults and its ubiquity makes getting it fixed cheap. Added to which the ST has an engine which when fitted to bigger heavier Volvos can cover 200,000 miles or more. Oh and the 225ps figure is mated to a diesel like torque curve and it isn't beyond the reach of most owners to modify them in stages during ownership to stop them becoming bored.
If people can live with the lack of fuel economy there isn't much else to chalk up against them.
Up your budget to around 10 and you would get a much newer (possibly facelift car).
The focus that the car is based on has proved generally free of huge faults and its ubiquity makes getting it fixed cheap. Added to which the ST has an engine which when fitted to bigger heavier Volvos can cover 200,000 miles or more. Oh and the 225ps figure is mated to a diesel like torque curve and it isn't beyond the reach of most owners to modify them in stages during ownership to stop them becoming bored.
If people can live with the lack of fuel economy there isn't much else to chalk up against them.
Who cares about the mpg. I bought mine expecting around 20mpg and thats what I get.
As for price, I paid £12k for mine when it was 2 years old, & I felt that was a rather good price for an ST3. Now 2 years later, Its probally worth about £8.5 / 9k. That to me seems a lot of depretiation in 2 years.
As for price, I paid £12k for mine when it was 2 years old, & I felt that was a rather good price for an ST3. Now 2 years later, Its probally worth about £8.5 / 9k. That to me seems a lot of depretiation in 2 years.
thebigmacmoomin said:
Who cares about the mpg. I bought mine expecting around 20mpg and thats what I get.
As for price, I paid £12k for mine when it was 2 years old, & I felt that was a rather good price for an ST3. Now 2 years later, Its probally worth about £8.5 / 9k. That to me seems a lot of depretiation in 2 years.
Sorry but an ST is an everyday car, and there's no way in hell I could justify commuting with a car that gets 20mpg...that's supercar territory. No wonder they've changed to a 2.0 Ecoboost engine for the new ST.As for price, I paid £12k for mine when it was 2 years old, & I felt that was a rather good price for an ST3. Now 2 years later, Its probally worth about £8.5 / 9k. That to me seems a lot of depretiation in 2 years.
GroundEffect said:
thebigmacmoomin said:
Who cares about the mpg. I bought mine expecting around 20mpg and thats what I get.
As for price, I paid £12k for mine when it was 2 years old, & I felt that was a rather good price for an ST3. Now 2 years later, Its probally worth about £8.5 / 9k. That to me seems a lot of depretiation in 2 years.
Sorry but an ST is an everyday car, and there's no way in hell I could justify commuting with a car that gets 20mpg...that's supercar territory. No wonder they've changed to a 2.0 Ecoboost engine for the new ST.As for price, I paid £12k for mine when it was 2 years old, & I felt that was a rather good price for an ST3. Now 2 years later, Its probally worth about £8.5 / 9k. That to me seems a lot of depretiation in 2 years.
I was going to get a BMW 330Ci cabrio (manual) and thats even worse. Someone in work had one a year or so back and he was getting 13mpg around town.
Edited by thebigmacmoomin on Saturday 11th June 15:15
thebigmacmoomin said:
GroundEffect said:
thebigmacmoomin said:
Who cares about the mpg. I bought mine expecting around 20mpg and thats what I get.
As for price, I paid £12k for mine when it was 2 years old, & I felt that was a rather good price for an ST3. Now 2 years later, Its probally worth about £8.5 / 9k. That to me seems a lot of depretiation in 2 years.
Sorry but an ST is an everyday car, and there's no way in hell I could justify commuting with a car that gets 20mpg...that's supercar territory. No wonder they've changed to a 2.0 Ecoboost engine for the new ST.As for price, I paid £12k for mine when it was 2 years old, & I felt that was a rather good price for an ST3. Now 2 years later, Its probally worth about £8.5 / 9k. That to me seems a lot of depretiation in 2 years.
I was going to get a BMW 330Ci cabrio (manual) and thats even worse. Someone in work had one a year or so back and he was getting 13mpg around town.
Edited by thebigmacmoomin on Saturday 11th June 15:15
Mastodon2 said:
From what I've heard on PH and from friends and colleagues who own or have owned them, 25mpg is an optimistic estimate!
I've covered around 35,000 miles in mine and it averages 25-26 mpg. Most of that is a stop- start 30 mile round trip commute too - you can see much better economy on steady A-road and m-way driving if you keep it under 80.Oddly, remapping and releasing another 50bhp has seen the economy increase modestly..... Go figure.
GroundEffect said:
thebigmacmoomin said:
Who cares about the mpg. I bought mine expecting around 20mpg and thats what I get.
As for price, I paid £12k for mine when it was 2 years old, & I felt that was a rather good price for an ST3. Now 2 years later, Its probally worth about £8.5 / 9k. That to me seems a lot of depretiation in 2 years.
Sorry but an ST is an everyday car, and there's no way in hell I could justify commuting with a car that gets 20mpg...that's supercar territory. No wonder they've changed to a 2.0 Ecoboost engine for the new ST.As for price, I paid £12k for mine when it was 2 years old, & I felt that was a rather good price for an ST3. Now 2 years later, Its probally worth about £8.5 / 9k. That to me seems a lot of depretiation in 2 years.
I could see 35+ if I behaved 24/7, but that's just not in me.
GroundEffect said:
Sorry but an ST is an everyday car, and there's no way in hell I could justify commuting with a car that gets 20mpg...that's supercar territory. No wonder they've changed to a 2.0 Ecoboost engine for the new ST.
Horses for courses. I suspect I wouldn't want the 4 cylinder replacement and I just couldn't cope with a Clio.sharpfocus said:
GroundEffect said:
Sorry but an ST is an everyday car, and there's no way in hell I could justify commuting with a car that gets 20mpg...that's supercar territory. No wonder they've changed to a 2.0 Ecoboost engine for the new ST.
Horses for courses. I suspect I wouldn't want the 4 cylinder replacement and I just couldn't cope with a Clio.Tonberry said:
I'd love one to be honest but I really struggle to see how they're holding their value.
The majority were bought on tick by the kind of people who really can't afford to run them - I would imagine, due to increased fuel prices and a poor mpg figure, there would be a plethora on the market at rock bottom prices.
The oldest ones are now 6 years old with around 80k on the clock so why are they not dropping below 6k?
Have to say out of all the big hot hatches the ST is one of my favs, on looks, sound and drive.The majority were bought on tick by the kind of people who really can't afford to run them - I would imagine, due to increased fuel prices and a poor mpg figure, there would be a plethora on the market at rock bottom prices.
The oldest ones are now 6 years old with around 80k on the clock so why are they not dropping below 6k?
That said, if you don't need a big boot and seating for 5 there are other fast/faster cars out there for similar money.
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