Tyres. Do you go premium?
Tyres. Do you go premium?
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Eighteeteewhy

Original Poster:

7,259 posts

194 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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Personally I do. No matter what it on, daily hack or weekend sports car.
At the end of the day it's your last contact with the road.

We've all heard..

"these are half the price, but made in the same factory as XXX"

Or

"these actually use XXXXX treads so they're the same"

I don't buy it.

So what are your choices and experiences?




I was always told "brakes and tyres, nothing else really matters" smile

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Debaser

7,938 posts

287 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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Eighteeteewhy said:
Personally I do. No matter what it on, daily hack or weekend sports car.
At the end of the day it's your last contact with the road.

We've all heard..

"these are half the price, but made in the same factory as XXX"

Or

"these actually use XXXXX treads so they're the same"

I don't buy it.

So what are your choices and experiences?




I was always told "brakes and tyres, nothing else really matters" smile

@
I tend to either buy OE spec tyres, or something expensive from Continental, Goodyear or Michelin.

Marf

22,907 posts

267 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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I always buy premium or sports tyres when renewing tyres.

Currently running AD08 on my MR2 and they're leagues ahead of what I've used in the past on the car.

Soovy

35,829 posts

297 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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My father's words to me.

"Never ever scrimp on tyres, brakes, or johnnies".



Riley Blue

23,155 posts

252 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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The 'shopping trolley' that rarely goes out of town and therefore seldom above 30mph is on Falken, my Audi is on Toyo and my Rileys, because they're both undergoing restoration are on something cheap and nasty - horses for courses, they're shod according to their use.

rwstokes

196 posts

170 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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i use the priciple of if i have heard of the company ill try the tyres, but i watch odd motorsport from around the world so have heard of most of the 'mid range' options, things like kuhmo yokohama etc,


lexusboy

1,101 posts

169 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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I have never moved away from the T1-R

MattOz

4,019 posts

290 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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Yup. Always buy premium tyres. Bought some Kumhos years ago and it put me off cheaper tyres for life. Unfortunately, Michelin, Continental and Pirelli all cost that bit more, but it's worth it, for me at least.

mwstewart

8,448 posts

214 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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Most definitely, because there's a noticeable difference. I also always fit OEM discs and pads, because the bite from decent pads and the discs with high carbon content steel is always a lot better than with cheaper versions.

Marf

22,907 posts

267 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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Just to add if buying a set of wheels and they came with mid range sports tyres I'd keep them until they were worn, but they'd invariably get replaced with something better.

rumple

14,273 posts

177 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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I don't skimp on brakes or tyres, if I'm totally skint at a push ill fit partworn premiums rather than ditchfinders

deadmau5

3,197 posts

206 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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Debaser said:
I tend to either buy OE spec tyres, or something expensive from Continental, Goodyear or Michelin.
Thanks for quoting the OP! I wouldn't have known what you were talking about otherwise...

I have gone for the tyres which seem to be best regarded on the owners forum for whichever car I currently own.

otolith

66,776 posts

230 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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I tend to buy the tyres the manufacturer specified as standard, unless there is good reason not to. The Elise had Bridgestone RE040s as standard, the Lotus marked version are now like rockinghorse dung so I moved to the LTS marked Yokohama AD07s that are currently fitted to new Elises. The 350Z also had RE040s as standard, it's now halfway moved to RE050As - they're a bit better in the wet. God knows what the Saab was originally fitted with, I've just put a set of Goodyear Eagle F1s on it and bought a set of winter wheels with Nokian winter tyres on them.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

243 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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Soovy said:
My father's words to me.

"Never ever scrimp on tyres, brakes, or johnnies".
Good words of advice smile

miln0039

2,013 posts

184 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas all the way for my on the Z4 Coupe. Good feel and great performance in the wet - which is handy right now.

But would these be considered "premium"? I know they don't technically have a Goodyear or Michelin label but I think they're pushing the premium bracket with the Ultrac Sessantas?

Joe Osborne

54 posts

204 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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Running 4x Sunteks, £50 a corner. So far they've lasted 35k miles, still got plenty of tread left. Great grip in the dry, questionable ability to do anything in the wet.

Premium tyres for me are only needed if you are driving on the limit, otherwise they cost more to buy and need to be replaced more often.

PlayersNo6

1,102 posts

182 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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I feel re-assured by premium brands but are they the 'best' tyres?

I once fitted mid range Avon ZV5 to our Galaxy and they were very grippy and a comfy ride but wore out in the half the time of the OE Michelin Pilots. Car now has Pirelli P7s on it and they last but are not as confidence inspiring or as comfortable as the Avons or Michelins.

My Vectra has always had Goodyear NCT5s fitted. I get 30k on the fronts and 50k on the rears. They're an 'eco' tyre and often derided as being ditchfinders but for motorway use/mileage they're ideal. On town roads/A roads they're thumpy. I need a new pair and this time I'm tempted to go for stickier mid range Uniroyal Rainsport 2s but I would be annoyed if I got drastically reduced longevity a la Avon.

The MX5 has Michelin PE2s fitted and I will be sticking with these come replacement as the only other 14" tyres in V spec available are Yoko Advans and Toyo Proxes CF1 - would imagine both of these are a step down from the PE2s

I guess the lesson for me is just stump up for Michelins every time.

steveT350C

6,728 posts

187 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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AndrewW-G said:
Soovy said:
My father's words to me.

"Never ever scrimp on tyres, brakes, or johnnies".
Good words of advice smile
Agreed!

velocemitch

4,019 posts

246 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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otolith said:
I tend to buy the tyres the manufacturer specified as standard, unless there is good reason not to. The Elise had Bridgestone RE040s as standard, the Lotus marked version are now like rockinghorse dung so I moved to the LTS marked Yokohama AD07s that are currently fitted to new Elises. The 350Z also had RE040s as standard, it's now halfway moved to RE050As - they're a bit better in the wet. God knows what the Saab was originally fitted with, I've just put a set of Goodyear Eagle F1s on it and bought a set of winter wheels with Nokian winter tyres on them.
Not sure that applies with main stream cars, if you look at what they come out of the showroom with you will find it's going to vary on what they can get the best deal on in the month it was manufactured.

Though to be fair most manufactures do use 'Premium' brands, but I did notice Khumo's on something new recently, forget what, might have been a Skoda.

Dave Hedgehog

16,046 posts

230 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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tyre tests pretty much show you get what you pay for with rubber, and some of the budget stuff is posativly leathaly

got conti sport conact 3s atm, lateral grip is bonkers

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2012-EVO-Max-...