Scam or not?

[pvapour]

I have been selling my Chimaera for a couple of weeks now with a couple of nearlys, but htis one has cropped up over the weekend from someone in Spain buying on behalf of someone else, I know there are warning at the moment:-

Foreign Buyers/Agents
The most common scam attempted via the internet is of a foreign buyer or agent wanting to buy your car or bike despite not having seen it. They say they'll agree to the asking price. The details of the scam vary, but usually start with asking for your name, address and sometimes bank details.

Sadly, you need to be suspicious of any buyers from Africa for this reason. Sometimes these scams also originate in the Netherlands.

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but this is a spanish guy, who has asked for additional picies history of the car etc and no personal info as yet, his last mail after I had sent some requested images, read:

Hello
Thanks for your mail,i appreciate your mail ,the
price is okay with us ands also please i am ok
with the condition of the car get back to me, so
that we can arrange for the payment fast becausemy
customer really love the vehincle than i do , iwill
also want you to know that am a far away
buyerfrom SPAIN which i will be responsible for the
shippment of the CAR ,also payment will me madeinu.k ,i will want
you to get back to me so thatwecan arrange for the payment fast i
will be waiting for your mail as soon as possible.
best regard.
let me know how much it will go for last?

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I know a language barrier can sometimes come across a bit suspect, am I just being paranoid or does this sound a bit iffy

Thanks for your thoughts

Nick

[nobbybombshell]

SCAM!!!

[ThatPhilBrettGuy]

The SPAIN and CAR look like auto filled in fields too. I bet he's got a nice little script to push values into them.

The thing that gets me about these things is just how poor they are. Lord help us if they ever make a good go of it...well not me as I trust no-one that's on these computer thingies. In fact I bet you lot don't exist and I'm just chatting to a very clever program...

[pvapour]

nobbybombshell said:

SCAM!!!

thought as much, but worth asking anyway, when your selling a car you want it to be a real enquirey and almost convince yourself it's just you being distrusting of everyone but i guess my distrust is there for good reason

oh well, onto the next potential.......

Cheers guys, Nik

[Donut]

Ask for the money first!

When it has cleared in your account, they can have the car.

If it is a scam then that will be the last you hear of them. If you don't want to give them your bank details, could you ask your bank to set up a temporary account so there will be nothing in there for them to pinch and as soon as the money has cleared, empty it and close it

[Davel]

Exactly - cleared funds before releasing car.

[g_attrill]

When you say "cleared" make sure that the cheque/draft has FULLY cleared, because cheques or drafts can legally be returned as forgeries many weeks after apparently clearing.

Gareth

[simpo two]

Also ask yourself: would you buy a car from someone in another country without even seeing it, and then be desperate to pay as soon as possible?

No.

[maddog-uk]

g_attrill said:

When you say "cleared" make sure that the cheque/draft has FULLY cleared, because cheques or drafts can legally be returned as forgeries many weeks after apparently clearing. Gareth

Can not emphasise this enough. I know some one who lost a £9000 aprilla bike through a forged bankers draft that was accepted on payment in , but rejected a week later when present to the drawing bank. The person lost the bike because he let the bike go when he was told it was cleared. Bib even stopped the bike 6 months later and then did not impound it even though it was reported stolen! Arrgggh. Be carefull.

[pvapour]

Have replied stating that I do not beleive them to be legitimate, and then blocked their email

[e-mail]

just in case anyone else gets a mail (sorry if this is not allowed Ted, remove if you wish) and it is a .co.uk server mmm....

Not worth any risk or hassle in my mind, I'm not that desperate to sell really.

The note on a bankers draft is well appreciated though, as I thought once the bank had cleard it that was good enough will make sure the notes are in my hand before letting any of my vehicles go in future!

Thanks for that, on everyones behalf!

Nick

[chris_chim]

I reported one of these to [e-mail] (.co.uk?) who investigated and removed the account.
Not sure if this gives the scammers any grief or not (as I imagine they have hundreds of accounts anyway).

[PetrolTed]

pvapour said:

Have replied stating that I do not beleive them to be legitimate, and then blocked their email [e-mail] just in case anyone else gets a mail (sorry if this is not allowed Ted, remove if you wish) and it is a .co.uk server mmm....

Not a problem. Another one for the PH blacklist