Bodywork advice needed
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Hi,
So I need a little advice with what I should do.
I have an impreza in which the wheel arches had just started to bubble. As a conscientious car owner I researched who I felt would be best to do the job... Who I would trust to leave my car with first and foremost.
All comments were basically what a good car it was and if I really wanted to go ahead then no cutting away would really be needed.
I have had the car back a week....yes one week... And can not believe I can see rust coming through, lots of small
Bubbles and paintwork actually separating.
The sprayer has said he will redo the work "out of good will but will accept no responsibility as said the rust would come back"
On further inspection (as it was raining when collected so couldn't see) the front bumper, also resprayed, has got a number of stone chips still remaining and is even an area where you can see the rubbing down of filler.
On the back quarter panels you can also see and feel where he has masked it off.
So, what do I do? He has said he will redo arches. Don't know if I should let him! But I've now spent all money saved to then have to have it redone. I
So I need a little advice with what I should do.
I have an impreza in which the wheel arches had just started to bubble. As a conscientious car owner I researched who I felt would be best to do the job... Who I would trust to leave my car with first and foremost.
All comments were basically what a good car it was and if I really wanted to go ahead then no cutting away would really be needed.
I have had the car back a week....yes one week... And can not believe I can see rust coming through, lots of small
Bubbles and paintwork actually separating.
The sprayer has said he will redo the work "out of good will but will accept no responsibility as said the rust would come back"
On further inspection (as it was raining when collected so couldn't see) the front bumper, also resprayed, has got a number of stone chips still remaining and is even an area where you can see the rubbing down of filler.
On the back quarter panels you can also see and feel where he has masked it off.
So, what do I do? He has said he will redo arches. Don't know if I should let him! But I've now spent all money saved to then have to have it redone. I
Ozzie Osmond said:
But he's right. Rust will always return - hopefully not that quickly!
Not if its done right in the first place, rubbing it down and filling it with bondo isn't doing a proper job. You need to cut the rust out until your back to fresh, rust free metal and weld in a repair section. Then it won't come back for many years as long as it's been painted and undersealed properlyBecause there wasn't too much bubbling, had only just started, i thought it would be ok to use sandblasting so to be able to have more original bodywork left to work on next time the arches went...in a few years time. Thing is looking at other bits of work he's done doesn't give me the impression its going to be done to the standard i would have liked.
Of course it will come back, but not within a week. I'd be expecting to see it come back after a year or so.
Have you paid a lot for the job? it sounds as though it could be another 'get what you pay for' situation, although you would hope someone would be at least competent enough to be able to hide the filler and make it look new.
Your only choice now is to let him have another go. Then get saving to have it done again, but properly. Or shift the car on before it comes back, as most people would do.
Have you paid a lot for the job? it sounds as though it could be another 'get what you pay for' situation, although you would hope someone would be at least competent enough to be able to hide the filler and make it look new.
Your only choice now is to let him have another go. Then get saving to have it done again, but properly. Or shift the car on before it comes back, as most people would do.
Finding someone to do this sort of work to a good standard is a nightmare... I have just inspected a lancia that has been restored by a well respected restorer just a few months ago. I was asked to look at it as there was some rust stains at the bottom of the sills. To be fair, the job looked first class, the fit and finish of the new panels and the sills was excellent, as was the paint finish.
However, when I looked inside the sills with a snake camera it was far from good. the centre strengthening web internal to the sills was completely missing, and instead of a coating of cavity wax there were a few globs in the bottom... Where it had been welded, the corrosion had already took hold and hence the rust stains.
I took pictures with the camera of the inside of the sills, and rear arches and the guy is now talking to the restorer about the standard of the work. Its bound to get nasty as the bill was £15,000...
These snake cameras are great, 2 meters long, the head is only 10mm and they plug into a laptop and take stills or videos! all for less than £10 on Ebay!
However, when I looked inside the sills with a snake camera it was far from good. the centre strengthening web internal to the sills was completely missing, and instead of a coating of cavity wax there were a few globs in the bottom... Where it had been welded, the corrosion had already took hold and hence the rust stains.
I took pictures with the camera of the inside of the sills, and rear arches and the guy is now talking to the restorer about the standard of the work. Its bound to get nasty as the bill was £15,000...
These snake cameras are great, 2 meters long, the head is only 10mm and they plug into a laptop and take stills or videos! all for less than £10 on Ebay!
One of the secrets to stopping it coming back is to treat the source of the problem. Corrosion in wheel arches can often be prevented or slowed down considerably by the application of some Waxoyle.
Thin it down 50% with some white spirits and give the inside of the arches a good soaking. it creeps into the joints really well. you can get Waxoyle and an applicator to get it into cavities and gaps quite cheap.
I know there are other products out there but I have been using Waxoyle for thirty years and for me its always worked. some of the new products may be better, who knows!
Thin it down 50% with some white spirits and give the inside of the arches a good soaking. it creeps into the joints really well. you can get Waxoyle and an applicator to get it into cavities and gaps quite cheap.
I know there are other products out there but I have been using Waxoyle for thirty years and for me its always worked. some of the new products may be better, who knows!
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