Tonight with Trevor Macdonald now
Discussion
Just watched it. I don't really rate the Trevor Mcdonald programme, but the poor families that had lost children as a result of piss poor driving was VERY sad. Whilst having incurance will not stop accidents, it does seem to be the type of person with no documents (or even banned) that seems to end up killing people.
Larger deterents are definitely required....
Larger deterents are definitely required....
sgemini said:
We in North Yorks seize the motor of anyone not insured - days to claim (with Ins) then the crusher
Gemini I'm all for coming down hard on these people, but would it not be slightly more creative to prosecute them and sell the vehicle and give the proceeds to the victim's families instead of pointlessly crushing it?
IOLAIRE said:
Gemini I'm all for coming down hard on these people, but would it not be slightly more creative to prosecute them and sell the vehicle and give the proceeds to the victim's families instead of pointlessly crushing it?
If I had a 12 yr old girl killed by some mindless scumbag and his crappy car was sold for $50 at auction and offered to me - I'd be insulted. I'd rather be left alone for an hour with said scumbag with a blowtorch and pliers.
srebbe64 said:
Gemini I'm all for coming down hard on these people, but would it not be slightly more creative to prosecute them and sell the vehicle and give the proceeds to the victim's families instead of pointlessly crushing it?
If I had a 12 yr old girl killed by some mindless scumbag and his crappy car was sold for $50 at auction and offered to me - I'd be insulted. I'd rather be left alone for an hour with said scumbag with a blowtorch and pliers.
Can I suggest you get wise to what's happening with the police, the DVLA and the "car crushing" scenario.
They have already crushed at least a couple of valuable classic vehicles simply because they didn't have a tax disc.
The last I heard is that they are being sued and if necessary taken to Brussels over this kind of bloody minded stupidity.
A great many of the cars they seize are most definitely not fifty quid bangers.
Had they sold them then the proceeds could be put to good use and, if they have made an error as they frequently do, the vehicle is still in existence and compensation can be made.
Should lock the bast***s up, not just take their £50 car off them and give them points (on a licence they dont even have yet as they havent passed their tests).
All of us law abiding citizens are paying for these idiots. FFS I heard we even all have to pay another 50p more on our car ins now due to that f***wit last week on the railway crossing as it doesnt look like he was insured.
All of us law abiding citizens are paying for these idiots. FFS I heard we even all have to pay another 50p more on our car ins now due to that f***wit last week on the railway crossing as it doesnt look like he was insured.
My missus was hit head on by an uninsured driver on a blind bend (he crossed over to the wrong side of the road to take a turn-off without stopping)
It was fully dark and a halfwit would have seen the headlamps against the wall on the outside of the bend.
Mercifully my better half was OK (whiplash but not a scratch otherwise) but the car (a Focus) was a total write-off. It was a fair old whack (split the gearbox casing) so thank christ Ford build them strong.
What really bugged me is that at best it was careless driving but no action taken - Also irritated that the BiB didn't take a breath test (4 young lads in a car a fair way from home at 10pm on a bank holiday!)
Net result one knackered car, a mountain of legal paperwork and sonny boy gets a fine approximately a tenth of what the insurance would have cost him in the first place! Its not right!!!
It was fully dark and a halfwit would have seen the headlamps against the wall on the outside of the bend.
Mercifully my better half was OK (whiplash but not a scratch otherwise) but the car (a Focus) was a total write-off. It was a fair old whack (split the gearbox casing) so thank christ Ford build them strong.
What really bugged me is that at best it was careless driving but no action taken - Also irritated that the BiB didn't take a breath test (4 young lads in a car a fair way from home at 10pm on a bank holiday!)
Net result one knackered car, a mountain of legal paperwork and sonny boy gets a fine approximately a tenth of what the insurance would have cost him in the first place! Its not right!!!
Fat Audi 80 said:
but the poor families that had lost children as a result of piss poor driving was VERY sad...
I think the first example was not the fault of the driver (unless I'm thinking of another case).
That was the reason he wasn't clobbered in court.
He was sentenced for driving without licence/insurance, not killing the kid.
If I am talking about the same case, it's pretty shabby of the BBC to cite it.
If a car's not taxed and/or insured, chances are it's not roadworthy. Selling it on wouldn't make much difference, but
What I would suggest is that all roadworthy parts were removed from the car and sold on through Police 'autojumbles'. We're too disposable when it comes to cars.
Plus, if the car is roadworthy, surely the sum total of its parts would be worth more than the whole car anyway.
Same goes for scrapyards - sod wasteful EU regulations - only destroy (and with any luck recycle) things that are too far gone to repair.
What I would suggest is that all roadworthy parts were removed from the car and sold on through Police 'autojumbles'. We're too disposable when it comes to cars.
Plus, if the car is roadworthy, surely the sum total of its parts would be worth more than the whole car anyway.
Same goes for scrapyards - sod wasteful EU regulations - only destroy (and with any luck recycle) things that are too far gone to repair.
IOLAIRE said:
Can I suggest you get wise to what's happening with the police, the DVLA and the "car crushing" scenario.
They have already crushed at least a couple of valuable classic vehicles simply because they didn't have a tax disc.
Who`s fault is that? If it`s a classic, the RFL is free FFS. How hard can it be to apply disc to windscreen? Unless you know more about the story than you are letting on?
Steve
GrahamG said:
My missus was hit head on by an uninsured driver on a blind bend (he crossed over to the wrong side of the road to take a turn-off without stopping)
It was fully dark and a halfwit would have seen the headlamps against the wall on the outside of the bend.
Mercifully my better half was OK (whiplash but not a scratch otherwise) but the car (a Focus) was a total write-off. It was a fair old whack (split the gearbox casing) so thank christ Ford build them strong.
What really bugged me is that at best it was careless driving but no action taken - Also irritated that the BiB didn't take a breath test (4 young lads in a car a fair way from home at 10pm on a bank holiday!)
Net result one knackered car, a mountain of legal paperwork and sonny boy gets a fine approximately a tenth of what the insurance would have cost him in the first place! Its not right!!!
Totally agree, glad you're missus escaped unhurt.
I had a head on 14 years ago, a numpty overtaking a bus over a hill crest went straight into me, flipped me in the air, through 180 degrees and then I was hit head on again by the car originally behind me, how's that for bad luck!? I somehow escaped with two cracked ribs. Someone was looking after me that day for sure.
The uninsured driver stood up in court & blamed me for the accident(WTF?), but the evidence from the bus driver did him totally ("saw it like a movie m'lud, the bloke's a nutter!).
He was found guilty, got a £200 fine and 3 points...on his non existant licence.
WOW! I bet that deterred him, probably back in a car the next day. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!
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