3 Chaps wanted for TV programme
Discussion
Tonight with Trevor McDonald will be filming in Manchester in about 3 weeks time for a programme about speed limiters. The programme is about 'car safety'.
They'd like 3 chaps, ideally friends who would like to appear in the programme. They are seeking people who enjoy fast cars (but who aren't 'reckless') who are likely to point out the dangers of installing limiters in cars.
If you're up for it, drop me a line.
They'd like 3 chaps, ideally friends who would like to appear in the programme. They are seeking people who enjoy fast cars (but who aren't 'reckless') who are likely to point out the dangers of installing limiters in cars.
If you're up for it, drop me a line.
A word of warning first: They will try and make you look like nutters.
It seems to me that any documentary involving 'speed' and 'safety' will feature, before they introduce the drivers, the anti-car lobby who clearly know nothing about cars and want them all banned. You will be interspersed with police clips of dangerously-driven Imprezas, and after you've done your slot, a bereaved mother will appear saying how she wants all cars limited to nothing because her drunk daughter was run over on an unlit lane one night.
In short, be responsible, don't respond to goading presenters telling you to 'floor it' or encouraging you to spill the beans about how many points you've got. The fact that they're asking for 3 blokes is a warning - they are going to start talking about 'dangerous male speeders' at some point - read between the lines.
Just concentrate on how speed limiters could not only be damaging for the car, but also how dangerous they are in situations where you have to respond quickly on the motorway, and how they're pretty pointless through crawling traffic so why bother with them. I also think trying to make the point that turning road safety into a single (taxable) issue is making things worse in terms of road safety awareness (kids not knowing the Green Cross Code, pedestrians acting without responsibility etc) and contributing to greater deaths.
please please PLEASE! Whoever is called upon to do this, DON'T try and come across as a 'cheeky chappie who likes a bit of a hoon' - they will have the most stony-faced, humourless legislators and victims up against you. Keep the argument on the grounds of freedom and safety.
Sorry if I sound patronising, but I remember an almost identical Tonight with TM programme on road safety a couple of years back and it was very much pro-ignorance and pro-scamera.
We've entered a new era of motoring - we're having to actively fight for our freedom. Don't let us down guys.
It seems to me that any documentary involving 'speed' and 'safety' will feature, before they introduce the drivers, the anti-car lobby who clearly know nothing about cars and want them all banned. You will be interspersed with police clips of dangerously-driven Imprezas, and after you've done your slot, a bereaved mother will appear saying how she wants all cars limited to nothing because her drunk daughter was run over on an unlit lane one night.
In short, be responsible, don't respond to goading presenters telling you to 'floor it' or encouraging you to spill the beans about how many points you've got. The fact that they're asking for 3 blokes is a warning - they are going to start talking about 'dangerous male speeders' at some point - read between the lines.
Just concentrate on how speed limiters could not only be damaging for the car, but also how dangerous they are in situations where you have to respond quickly on the motorway, and how they're pretty pointless through crawling traffic so why bother with them. I also think trying to make the point that turning road safety into a single (taxable) issue is making things worse in terms of road safety awareness (kids not knowing the Green Cross Code, pedestrians acting without responsibility etc) and contributing to greater deaths.
please please PLEASE! Whoever is called upon to do this, DON'T try and come across as a 'cheeky chappie who likes a bit of a hoon' - they will have the most stony-faced, humourless legislators and victims up against you. Keep the argument on the grounds of freedom and safety.
Sorry if I sound patronising, but I remember an almost identical Tonight with TM programme on road safety a couple of years back and it was very much pro-ignorance and pro-scamera.
We've entered a new era of motoring - we're having to actively fight for our freedom. Don't let us down guys.
You sound like a pretty good chap to represent us, why don't you go for it?No car, no time, nowhere near Manchester right now. Also, Im 21, so none of the anti-'boy racer' lot are going to listen to a word I say.
This needs to be carefully constructed - we need an anti-argument from people who could usually be in favour of such things (middle aged-ish, middle-class, self-made, respectable etc - you don't want a scruffy student!).
Seriously, this presentation has to be absolutely watertight.
This needs to be carefully constructed - we need an anti-argument from people who could usually be in favour of such things (middle aged-ish, middle-class, self-made, respectable etc - you don't want a scruffy student!).
Seriously, this presentation has to be absolutely watertight.
tonyhetherington said:
Though I've never met him, Don would be a good example. How about Paul Smith from SafeSpeed? He'd be a great one for commenting properly!
Paul Smith was on Radio London yesterday talking to John Gaunt. Seemed a fairly pointless exercise as Gaunt is a complete twat.
v8thunder said:
A word of warning first: They will try and make you look like nutters.
It seems to me that any documentary involving 'speed' and 'safety' will feature, before they introduce the drivers, the anti-car lobby who clearly know nothing about cars and want them all banned. You will be interspersed with police clips of dangerously-driven Imprezas, and after you've done your slot, a bereaved mother will appear saying how she wants all cars limited to nothing because her drunk daughter was run over on an unlit lane one night.
In short, be responsible, don't respond to goading presenters telling you to 'floor it' or encouraging you to spill the beans about how many points you've got. The fact that they're asking for 3 blokes is a warning - they are going to start talking about 'dangerous male speeders' at some point - read between the lines.
Just concentrate on how speed limiters could not only be damaging for the car, but also how dangerous they are in situations where you have to respond quickly on the motorway, and how they're pretty pointless through crawling traffic so why bother with them. I also think trying to make the point that turning road safety into a single (taxable) issue is making things worse in terms of road safety awareness (kids not knowing the Green Cross Code, pedestrians acting without responsibility etc) and contributing to greater deaths.
please please PLEASE! Whoever is called upon to do this, DON'T try and come across as a 'cheeky chappie who likes a bit of a hoon' - they will have the most stony-faced, humourless legislators and victims up against you. Keep the argument on the grounds of freedom and safety.
Don't trust the media, there's more chance of Fatty Prescot giving up pies than them offering a balanced argument.
They're obviously going to interview you first to make sure they get the "right" sort of idiot otherwise they won't have a programme. If you seem too sensible you won't get the job.
We're damned if we do and we're damned if we don't.
What an interesting proposal. Did they come to you direct Ted?
I'm with V8thunder on this one. Whoever is the 'chosen' should be well primed and informed of the traps that will be layed. Even if things are said very carefully they always have the edit on their side.
Footage of Maxers hooning ......
Mother of poor sad victim ......
Bank raiders hammering down the motorway .....
We all know and have seen the type of article. Then come the statistics.
"XXX people KILLED or seriously injured through the falt of speeding motorists" "If spped limiters were fitted then they could not have been going so fast"
How about a few of the IAM/ROSPA types on here giving a good account of the enthusiast. I'd be up for it! (IAM test, observer, senior observer and demo driver)Can't put on a Manky accent though I'm afraid
Paul.B
I'm with V8thunder on this one. Whoever is the 'chosen' should be well primed and informed of the traps that will be layed. Even if things are said very carefully they always have the edit on their side.
Footage of Maxers hooning ......
Mother of poor sad victim ......
Bank raiders hammering down the motorway .....
We all know and have seen the type of article. Then come the statistics.
"XXX people KILLED or seriously injured through the falt of speeding motorists" "If spped limiters were fitted then they could not have been going so fast"
How about a few of the IAM/ROSPA types on here giving a good account of the enthusiast. I'd be up for it! (IAM test, observer, senior observer and demo driver)Can't put on a Manky accent though I'm afraid
Paul.B
I'm afraid V6 is right - you can change the world in an editing suite.
I think someone needs to make the point that the more technology gets rammed into our cars to keep us 'safe', the more complacent the average motorist becomes. If we have been told continually by government campaigns to stick to the speed limit and keep both hands on the wheel then that is what will happen - people will keep to those rules regardless of the people bouncing off their bonnet, and their foot will be on the floor as they know their car won't break the speed limit.
Be aware of the editing techniques used in anti-car documentaries (of which this is undoubtably one) - allusions to 'enjoying' driving (which everyone will take to mean speeding/running over badgers in a Landy), in-car camera shots of 'bad' driving (one hand on the top of the wheel, arm on the door, hand on the gear lever/handbrake, radio on loud etc - appearence really does matter on TV).
I think the trick is to be as serious and concerned for safety as the antis. This engages them on their level and makes the motorist less of a stereotype amid the edited video-clip chaos they'll no doubt try and associate you with.
I think someone needs to make the point that the more technology gets rammed into our cars to keep us 'safe', the more complacent the average motorist becomes. If we have been told continually by government campaigns to stick to the speed limit and keep both hands on the wheel then that is what will happen - people will keep to those rules regardless of the people bouncing off their bonnet, and their foot will be on the floor as they know their car won't break the speed limit.
Be aware of the editing techniques used in anti-car documentaries (of which this is undoubtably one) - allusions to 'enjoying' driving (which everyone will take to mean speeding/running over badgers in a Landy), in-car camera shots of 'bad' driving (one hand on the top of the wheel, arm on the door, hand on the gear lever/handbrake, radio on loud etc - appearence really does matter on TV).
I think the trick is to be as serious and concerned for safety as the antis. This engages them on their level and makes the motorist less of a stereotype amid the edited video-clip chaos they'll no doubt try and associate you with.
pdV6 said:
v8thunder said:
This needs to be carefully constructed - we need an anti-argument from people who could usually be in favour of such things (middle aged-ish, middle-class, self-made, respectable etc - you don't want a scruffy student!).
Don? You up for it?
Christ. I'm middle aged!
www.dwmhughes.demon.co.uk/Hooning/MN_porschecc100404%20729.JPG
Seriously - do you want this man "representing" you...
>> Edited by Don on Wednesday 26th January 14:08
Yes, the production company contacted me. They wanted people with a responsible interest in fast cars to offer the anti-speed-limiter argument.
The warnings about content should be heeded as I've no prior experience with the company. That said, if you are considering it then the researchers will talk to you prior to meeting up so you can make your own mind up.
The warnings about content should be heeded as I've no prior experience with the company. That said, if you are considering it then the researchers will talk to you prior to meeting up so you can make your own mind up.
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