Policeman aquitted of doing 160mph.....
Policeman aquitted of doing 160mph.....
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beanbag

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7,346 posts

270 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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What message message does this send? I just heard it on Radio 1 news but can't find a link on BBC.co.uk.

I think it's scandelous and it shows that the police are now above the law.

Thank goodness I'm leaving this country in 8 weeks to live abroad. Sad that I feel that way.....

Just thought I should also add that he wasn't driving with his lights and siren and he spent most of his day driving around at speeds up to 160mph when not on call to an emergency.

>> Edited by beanbag on Wednesday 18th May 13:46

Plotloss

67,280 posts

299 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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www.shropshirestar.com/show_article.php?aID=32052

We really shouldnt be suprised.

Preferential treatment and all that.

I could understand if he were on a 'shout' but to do it as idle fancy and then try to justify it should see him lose his job and pension.

Zod

35,295 posts

287 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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lucky cop said:
In a statement to his senior officer Milton said he was an advanced police driver and had been hooning and practising his skills, testing how the car would react to road conditions.
so that's all the excuse we need in the future then...

dazren

22,612 posts

290 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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A shame the same curtesy can't be extended to me.

DAZ

Plotloss

67,280 posts

299 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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dazren said:
A shame the same curtesy can't be extended to me.

DAZ


Exactly, members of the public who have undergone as much training as is possible in the UK today have had their lives shattered for doing such a thing.

james_j

3,996 posts

284 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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The apparent preferential is pretty typical, however, it's also sending yet another message that any speed, if the circumstances are suitable, is OK. I agree with this.

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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It's OK - he was only practising.

beanbag

Original Poster:

7,346 posts

270 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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A great example.....

General Public
I got 3 points and a £60 fine. On top of this my insurance will go up by about £50 per year for about 5 years so that equates to £310.

My crime.....doing 34mph in a 30mph zone.

Policeman
Got sent to court for doing 160mph in a 60-70mph zone. (A 90mph excess in speed).

Penalty. None.



I had very little respect for traffic police after my first set of points. I now have zero respect for them. Money grabbing theiving corrupt . And here I was thinking we lived in a civilised society.

CupraR

676 posts

258 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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If he has been let off then it just goes to prove what a joke the whole system has become. Can you imagine what would happen to you or me if we got caught doing those speeds?

In the words of the prodigy - em and their law!

volvos70t5

852 posts

258 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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I think the verdict is correct. He is an an advanced police driver trying out a new car.

Would it have been better for him to wait for his first immediate response call and then have to master the car on his way to that call?

Facts:

He is an advanced police driver.
There is an exmeption available - for "police purposes".
Judge considered the use appropriate.

If people want to drive like policemen they should jack their job in and join the force. IMHO.

lanciachris

3,357 posts

270 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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unbelievable. Simply amazing. Do our resident BiB here ever make noise in their stations about these things?

jeremyc

28,087 posts

313 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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volvos70t5 said:
I think the verdict is correct. He is an an advanced police driver trying out a new car.

Would it have been better for him to wait for his first immediate response call and then have to master the car on his way to that call?
No: he should have used the same method as that advised to many of the public when pulled for exceeding the speed limit - an off-road test facility or race track.

shadowninja

80,015 posts

311 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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"I was just testing the speed of my new Enzo..."

stone

1,538 posts

276 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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volvos70t5 said:
I think the verdict is correct. He is an an advanced police driver trying out a new car.

Would it have been better for him to wait for his first immediate response call and then have to master the car on his way to that call?

Facts:

He is an advanced police driver.
There is an exmeption available - for "police purposes".
Judge considered the use appropriate.

If people want to drive like policemen they should jack their job in and join the force. IMHO.


Thats plain stupid! Are you

volvos70t5

852 posts

258 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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jeremyc said:

volvos70t5 said:
I think the verdict is correct. He is an an advanced police driver trying out a new car.

Would it have been better for him to wait for his first immediate response call and then have to master the car on his way to that call?

No: he should have used the same method as that advised to many of the public when pulled for exceeding the speed limit - an off-road test facility or race track.


He claimed an exemption and the judge agreed with him. What you think or I think is immaterial. If everyone was trained to his level the roads would be a lot safer.

I like to drive fast and have known to accidentally exceed the speed limit at times. But I have also invested significant time and money to improve my driving standard.

safespeed

2,983 posts

303 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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Safe Speed issued the following PR at 13:43 this afternoon:

PR193: PC Milton not guilty despite 159mph

News: for immediate release

According to reports, PC Milton of Telford was found not guilty in court this morning despite admitting driving a Police car at 159mph on a public road.

Paul Smith, founder of the Safe Speed road safety campaign (www.safespeed.org.uk) comments: "Here's a clear and proper admission that in suitable circumstances even 159mph need not be dangerous. If 159 mph can be safe enough not to endanger the public, then surely this is a clear official admission that driving a few miles per hour over the speed limit isn't necessarily dangerous either."

"There is so much more to safe driving than speed. Any speed at all can be deadly, and any speed at all can be adequately safe if conditions are suitable."

"Road safety depends on drivers selecting safe and appropriate speeds according to the conditions and the vast majority of us do it well and do it safely.
But erroneous official messages have been undermining the process and deaths are going up. We have to get back to the policies that gave us the safest roads in the world in the first place, long before speed cameras and the pointless obsession with numerical speed."

<ends>

Plotloss

67,280 posts

299 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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So because the state say its alright we should just let them get on with it?

Isnt there just a very tiny flaw in the argument?

CupraR

676 posts

258 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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volvos70t5 said:
I think the verdict is correct. He is an an advanced police driver trying out a new car.

Oh well that's alright then ...
volvos70t5 said:

Would it have been better for him to wait for his first immediate response call and then have to master the car on his way to that call?

No it would have been better if he took it to the track.
volvos70t5 said:

Facts:

He is an advanced police driver.
There is an exmeption available - for "police purposes".
Judge considered the use appropriate.

The fact that he's an "advanced police driver" means nothing. I'm sure there are people on this site with more ability than this guy yet if they told the police "I'm an advanced driver" they'd be laughed at.

There is no official exemption available when not responding to an emergency. You just made that up.

The judge is an idiot.
volvos70t5 said:

If people want to drive like policemen they should jack their job in and join the force. IMHO.

It's lucky I don't respect your opinion then isn't it.

Deester

1,607 posts

289 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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volvos70t5 said:
I think the verdict is correct. He is an an advanced police driver trying out a new car.

Would it have been better for him to wait for his first immediate response call and then have to master the car on his way to that call?

Facts:

He is an advanced police driver.
There is an exmeption available - for "police purposes".
Judge considered the use appropriate.

If people want to drive like policemen they should jack their job in and join the force. IMHO.


Eau dear!

beanbag

Original Poster:

7,346 posts

270 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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volvos70t5 said:
I think the verdict is correct. He is an an advanced police driver trying out a new car.

Would it have been better for him to wait for his first immediate response call and then have to master the car on his way to that call?

Facts:

He is an advanced police driver.
There is an exmeption available - for "police purposes".
Judge considered the use appropriate.

If people want to drive like policemen they should jack their job in and join the force. IMHO.


What planet are you living on?! He had no lights or sirens and imagine the implications if he caused an accident!!!!