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How cool:
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[quote=Sky news] SPEED CAMERA LOCATIONS
The AA is publishing the first road atlas to show the locations of speed cameras around Britain.
Safety experts accused the motoring organisation of encouraging drivers to break the law, but the AA claimed the maps would actually save lives.
Critics of speed cameras claim it is simply not possible for a motorist to drive any distance without risking points on their licence or even losing it altogether.
The AA supports this view, and is publishing new maps detailing the whereabouts of the dreaded yellow boxes.
The AA is also pointing out the locations the police favour for mobile speed traps that are often far more difficult to spot.
Much of this information is already available on the internet.
But this is the first time motorists have been given the chance to buy it in the shops.
About three million people fall foul of the cameras each year, but polls suggest nearly all drivers are in favour of them.
However, this is only the case where motorists believe a camera has been set up to help reduce accidents, not boost revenue through fines.[/quote]
Can I assume all red-blooded PHers think this is a great idea?
Have your say via the ‘your views’ link
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[quote=Sky news] SPEED CAMERA LOCATIONS
The AA is publishing the first road atlas to show the locations of speed cameras around Britain.
Safety experts accused the motoring organisation of encouraging drivers to break the law, but the AA claimed the maps would actually save lives.
Critics of speed cameras claim it is simply not possible for a motorist to drive any distance without risking points on their licence or even losing it altogether.
The AA supports this view, and is publishing new maps detailing the whereabouts of the dreaded yellow boxes.
The AA is also pointing out the locations the police favour for mobile speed traps that are often far more difficult to spot.
Much of this information is already available on the internet.
But this is the first time motorists have been given the chance to buy it in the shops.
About three million people fall foul of the cameras each year, but polls suggest nearly all drivers are in favour of them.
However, this is only the case where motorists believe a camera has been set up to help reduce accidents, not boost revenue through fines.[/quote]
Can I assume all red-blooded PHers think this is a great idea?
Have your say via the ‘your views’ link
Obviously employing the same excellent logic as the GPS detctor brigade, to whit:
"Ah, but surely your Safety Cameras are all located at accident blackspots, so we are surely helping your quest to lower accidents and fatalities by identifying these locations to motorists so that they can drive slower and safer there."
You can't argue with that.
"Ah, but surely your Safety Cameras are all located at accident blackspots, so we are surely helping your quest to lower accidents and fatalities by identifying these locations to motorists so that they can drive slower and safer there."
You can't argue with that.
jimothy said:Generally these surveys have very leading questions like "Do you think it is a good idea to prevent the death of children by placing a speed camera outside their schools and nurseries?"
Sky news said:
About three million people fall foul of the cameras each year, but polls suggest nearly all drivers are in favour of them.
WTF???
I bet they did the poll at some lentillist centre, or round the Transport2000 office...
Just a shame they are never situated there!
rsvmilly said:
jimothy said:
Sky news said:
About three million people fall foul of the cameras each year, but polls suggest nearly all drivers are in favour of them.
WTF???
I bet they did the poll at some lentillist centre, or round the Transport2000 office...
Generally these surveys have very leading questions like "Do you think it is a good idea to prevent the death of children by placing a speed camera outside their schools and nurseries?"
Just a shame they are never situated there!
or "do you think paedos should be locked up for life and support the use of speed cameras?"

Erm, the whole point of a scamera is to SLOW people down at a black spot.
The best speed camera's would be those that caught NO speeders, so then "in theory" the area would be less dangerous.
Letting people know of black spots, which is only where cameras are placed
is a good thing!
Own goal to the scamera partnerships imho. They can't have it both bloody ways!
Dave
The best speed camera's would be those that caught NO speeders, so then "in theory" the area would be less dangerous.
Letting people know of black spots, which is only where cameras are placed
is a good thing! Own goal to the scamera partnerships imho. They can't have it both bloody ways!
Dave
Mr Whippy said:Which is pretty much exactly what I posted about an hour before your post.
Erm, the whole point of a scamera is to SLOW people down at a black spot.
The best speed camera's would be those that caught NO speeders, so then "in theory" the area would be less dangerous.
Letting people know of black spots, which is only where cameras are placedis a good thing!
Own goal to the scamera partnerships imho. They can't have it both bloody ways!
Try to keep up old chap.

Mr Whippy said:
Erm, the whole point of a scamera is to SLOW people down at a black spot.
If that was the case, then having 6,000 speed cameras across the country would imply having 6,000 accident black spots across the country.
That's an awful lot of black spots, which makes me think that most of the cameras aren't really sited at accident black spots.
BTW, you never see a speed camera removed do you ?
There must be some roads that have had speed cameras installed, but the accident record of the road improves, removing the original need for the camera ?
Just doesn't happen, does it ?
dcb said:
Mr Whippy said:
Erm, the whole point of a scamera is to SLOW people down at a black spot.
If that was the case, then having 6,000 speed cameras across the country would imply having 6,000 accident black spots across the country.
That's an awful lot of black spots, which makes me think that most of the cameras aren't really sited at accident black spots.
BTW, you never see a speed camera removed do you ?
There must be some roads that have had speed cameras installed, but the accident record of the road improves, removing the original need for the camera ?
Just doesn't happen, does it ?
does actually .. on derby road in chesterfield a speed camera has been removed. and we have plenty of cameras outside schools/nurseries etc. In general I'm in favour of derbyshire's speed camera policy .. there seem to be very fedw on open road stretches so you cna still have a bit of a hoon if you desire
but keeps speeds down in town where .. i don't hink many people would argue with this policy. deliberate siting of cameras on open roads with little history of incidents is still happening elsewhere though, and that's a bad thing of course.
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