TV news programmes, do they think we're stupid ?
TV news programmes, do they think we're stupid ?
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johnelliott

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293 posts

280 months

Wednesday 16th October 2002
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Occasionally I watch the news, mostly BBC because I find their programmes the least offensive. However, even the BBC have a lot to answer for,

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Sentence swapping- On breakfast TV always a male presenter and a female presenter. They start a new topic and they take it in turn to read sentences from the autocue. Why do they do that? Anyone else find that irritating?

Reporting on Liberal party conferences etc. Who cares? who does it matter to? and yet they will waste hours on this kind of irrelevent rubbish

Agressive interviewing- something happens, they get someone on to talk about it, they wait til the person is halfway through a sentence in reply and then ask another 'searching ' question. When they've finished mauling the first interviewee they get someone with an opposing view and do the same thing to them. We hear virtually nothing about the salient points of the argumemnt, just interviewees doing their best to defend thenselves. Channel 4 news is particularly bad at this kind of thing.

Use of emotive terms to distort the truth- an excellent example recently with the exam re-grading thing. Each time the topic is introduced it will be 'exam marking fiasco' and the subject will be reported with the obvious implication that some bad b*stards have tried to ruin the lives of every student but fortunately the 'Media' are galloping to the rescue and will drag the guilty parties out to be suitably punished.

Listening to the news one soons gets the impression that they think the only perfect people in the world are the people who make the news programmes

John

alt

1,879 posts

302 months

Wednesday 16th October 2002
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Yep, the BBC has also fallen for sensationalism!
CH4 seems to be the most objective news on TV these days!

whatever

2,174 posts

290 months

Wednesday 16th October 2002
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answer: yes, and what's more they rely on it.

marki

15,763 posts

290 months

Wednesday 16th October 2002
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e.g.
Sentence swapping- On breakfast TV always a male presenter and a female presenter. They start a new topic and they take it in turn to read sentences from the autocue. Why do they do that? Anyone else find that irritating?

John


This one drives me nutts , i was going to post on it a week or so ago but thought it was only me that it bugged

CarZee

13,382 posts

287 months

Wednesday 16th October 2002
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alt said:CH4 seems to be the most objective news on TV these days!
Totally agree... a number of times there have been stories or elements of stories given coverage on C4News which have been completely omitted by BBC and Sky news - lies of omission if you ask me..

You'd think that since the BBC are the only ones who don't have a financial interest in screwing with the public that they'd be the most free and open news broadcaster. but they're not because the BBC's run by green, left wing, limp writsted apologists who should all fall on their swords immediately in the interest of the greater good.

M@H

11,298 posts

292 months

Wednesday 16th October 2002
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how about the news interview questioning that you can only say "yes" to..

"So having just lost your whole family to a terrorist attack.. are you distressed by this..?"

well they're not going to say NO are they !!

nonegreen

7,803 posts

290 months

Wednesday 16th October 2002
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The WGBBC (Womens green bolox broadcasting company) punctuates its constant stream of drivel with anti men anti car and anti fun propaganda. I have therefore thrown my telly on the tip and refuse to pay a licence fee.

scruff400

3,757 posts

281 months

Wednesday 16th October 2002
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nonegreen said: The WGBBC (Womens green bolox broadcasting company) punctuates its constant stream of drivel with anti men anti car and anti fun propaganda. I have therefore thrown my telly on the tip and refuse to pay a licence fee.



You don't need to pay for a TV licence if you don't have one...

I don't.

And I work in Telly.

Utter shite - without a budget, and a ten year old drugged up car theif as producer 'wouldn't it be a good idea if we took turns to read from the autocue - just takes enough sycophants to agree with him...

Fcukin dispise that part of the job.

johnelliott

Original Poster:

293 posts

280 months

Wednesday 16th October 2002
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The news readers and reporters have another annoying habit. They tend to emphasise the first word of a phrase. This is not a good thing in English because adjectives normally precede the noun. Take the phrase "brown cow" as an example. The most important word in this phrase is cow, so a proper english speaker would say 'brown COW'. If this unfortunate cow was to feature in the news then it would become a 'BROWN cow".

The recent controversy about exam regrading has been discussed elsewhere on this forum, and some are expressing the view that it is a 'storm in a teacup'. I am inclined to agree. Who made a controversy into a storm? The media. This is what they do. If they haven't got anything interesting to tell us then they will try to make what they have got into something interesting by blowing it up out of all proprtion. John Snow on channel 4 is a master of this truth-distorting process.

John

marki

15,763 posts

290 months

Wednesday 16th October 2002
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The recent controversy about exam regrading has been discussed elsewhere on this forum, and some are expressing the view that it is a 'storm in a teacup'. I am inclined to agree. Who made a controversy into a storm? The media. This is what they do. If they haven't got anything interesting to tell us then they will try to make what they have got into something interesting by blowing it up out of all proprtion. John Snow on channel 4 is a master of this truth-distorting process.

John



It must have been a quiet day in Israel - Iraq so they as you say had to make some stuff up or find a story to blow out of all proportion.

HiRich

3,337 posts

282 months

Wednesday 16th October 2002
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The antidote is simple and cheap - a year's subscrption to Private Eye. It may not always tell the truth, or the whole truth, but it makes you much more skilled at spotting dodgy reporting (TV or press).
The new edition has a superb analysis/deconstruction of the "Archer Diaries". Recommended reading.

Mr E

22,642 posts

279 months

Wednesday 16th October 2002
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This is why I get my news from radio 4 in the mornings (whilst trying to work out where I am).....

I own a widescreen teev to watch DVDs and play PS2 (Gran Tourimo 3) on.....

Captain muppet

8,540 posts

285 months

Thursday 17th October 2002
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Mr E said: This is why I get my news from radio 4 in the mornings (whilst trying to work out where I am).....

I own a widescreen teev to watch DVDs and play PS2 (Gran Tourimo 3) on.....




I only use my TV for vids/DVDs and GT3 - why the hell do I have to pay the license fee? Do you think car tax and speeding fines are unfair? That's nothing compared to the TV license. :spongingleftygitsonabonfire:

[honesty mode]
I did used to watch "Neighbours" twice a day as a student - with no TV license. I feel shame.
[/honesty mode]

Don

28,378 posts

304 months

Thursday 17th October 2002
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I now restrict myself to Sack-o-shite TV - and only those programmes that are fictional.

The BBC and the factual media have got me to the point where if I accidentally see a news programme I want to hurl my slippers at the telly with enough force to smash it.

In the interests of preserving my investment I decided

a) To put my slippers in a safe place prior to watching the news.

b) Not to watch the news.

I read the web instead...unfortunately even using web news sites I am often appalled at the standard of journalism.

These people know nothing about anything other than crafting a few choice words - they have no qualifications to comment or analyse politics or, for that matter, any other feature of human society.

To get an idea of what I mean...read any article about any Scientific subject...there are unbelievably few journos who were scientists or have any scientific background. Quite often therefore the story is wrong - or so simplistic that the wrong impression is given.

PH is of course an exception as Ted is all knowing, all seeing and 100% of us would vote for him.

miniman

28,970 posts

282 months

Thursday 17th October 2002
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Anyone else unable to tolerate that tawt Nicky Campbell on Watchdog???

NC: Why do so many of our consumers burn themselves on your coffee, Mr. McDonalds scapegoat man?

McD's: Because they're stupid and don't read the inane warnings we have to print on the cups

NC: Ah yes, but are the warnings BIG enough?

Why can't he just accept it when someone gives him a perfectly sensible answer?

:rantover:

Captain muppet

8,540 posts

285 months

Thursday 17th October 2002
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miniman said: Anyone else unable to tolerate that tawt Nicky Campbell on Watchdog???

NC: Why do so many of our consumers burn themselves on your coffee, Mr. McDonalds scapegoat man?

McD's: Because they're stupid and don't read the inane warnings we have to print on the cups

NC: Ah yes, but are the warnings BIG enough?

Why can't he just accept it when someone gives him a perfectly sensible answer?

:rantover:



"Nicky" is no name for a man. Ponce.