Who appointed truckers as the overtake police ?
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Came across this activity this morning, first time for a while that we have had road works on my route to work so I haven't seen it for a while.
On a dual carriageway with warnings that one lane closes ahead, there are signs saying "USE BOTH LANES" and "MERGE IN TURN AHEAD" But there is a truck in the outside lane, alongside one in the inside lane, blocking traffic from overtaking.
Why do they do this ????
On a dual carriageway with warnings that one lane closes ahead, there are signs saying "USE BOTH LANES" and "MERGE IN TURN AHEAD" But there is a truck in the outside lane, alongside one in the inside lane, blocking traffic from overtaking.
Why do they do this ????
Corpulent Tosser said:
Came across this activity this morning, first time for a while that we have had road works on my route to work so I haven't seen it for a while.
On a dual carriageway with warnings that one lane closes ahead, there are signs saying "USE BOTH LANES" and "MERGE IN TURN AHEAD" But there is a truck in the outside lane, alongside one in the inside lane, blocking traffic from overtaking.
Why do they do this ????
Penis envy?
At least you didn't have the one I had on a sliproad on Friday. 2 lanes on the slip road (it's quite long) and everytime I went to go past him he would swerve so his wheels came over the white line. To**er
Corpulent Tosser said:
Came across this activity this morning, first time for a while that we have had road works on my route to work so I haven't seen it for a while.
On a dual carriageway with warnings that one lane closes ahead, there are signs saying "USE BOTH LANES" and "MERGE IN TURN AHEAD" But there is a truck in the outside lane, alongside one in the inside lane, blocking traffic from overtaking.
Why do they do this ????
Seen this before, truckers that do this are a bunch of tosses, what right have they to decide when you pull in, and dare you do it to them.
All this does is create an even longer queu behind them of pi***d off motorist, and they expect us car drivers to respect them, in your dreams tossers.
Oh! and if any truckers read this, care to comment, can they even begin to give any justification for this, I think not. I am not tarring them all with the same brush, but those who do this are despicable.
>> Edited by Vipers on Monday 24th October 09:01
s like us have no experience and they drive fourteen gazillion miles a week and therefore should be allowed to do whatever they like becuase the think they're right.I agree with them. But its back to the old threads on PH. I drive fast cars and if its an open road I'll be mostly overtaking people.
But if there's a queue ahead I tend to join the back of it as I think driving up the right hand side to reach the bollards and then squeezing yourself into a queue shows no manners.
But if there's a queue ahead I tend to join the back of it as I think driving up the right hand side to reach the bollards and then squeezing yourself into a queue shows no manners.
Julian64 said:
I agree with them. But its back to the old threads on PH. I drive fast cars and if its an open road I'll be mostly overtaking people.
But if there's a queue ahead I tend to join the back of it as I think driving up the right hand side to reach the bollards and then squeezing yourself into a queue shows no manners.
Even when there are signs stating explicitly 'USE BOTH LANES' and 'MERGE IN TURN'?
Julian64 said:
I agree with them. But its back to the old threads on PH. I drive fast cars and if its an open road I'll be mostly overtaking people.
But if there's a queue ahead I tend to join the back of it as I think driving up the right hand side to reach the bollards and then squeezing yourself into a queue shows no manners.
Not passing judgement on your good mannes, well done that man, just passing judgment on "Their" bad manners.
If I am in the inside lane, I try to let a few cars in where I can, but to be held back by some pig headed trucker annoys the hell out of me, and all the other car drivers behind him.
Julian64 said:
I agree with them. But its back to the old threads on PH. I drive fast cars and if its an open road I'll be mostly overtaking people.
But if there's a queue ahead I tend to join the back of it as I think driving up the right hand side to reach the bollards and then squeezing yourself into a queue shows no manners.
If the signs say "GET IN LANE NOW" then I would agree with you, but they didn't, they clearly stated "USE BOTH LANES" and some tw@t just wouldn't have it.
I too object to those who go all the way to the bollards and cause other drivers to stop to let them into lane, however, a "MERGE IN TURN" sign 300/400M from the bollards gives drivers plenty time to leave a gap allowing traffic to remain flowing. It only takes a bit of consideration.
Yep, I suppose its his frustration getting the better of him. I wouldn't block the road.
But when you think about it. If a queue ahead develops, and the lanes are going from 3 ->2 ->1 then filing down doesn't improve the flow, it just allows the drivers going down the right to jump the queue and slows up all the traffic who have been waiting patiently for their turn.
I tend to ignore roadsigns as I tend to think I lot of them lack common sense. So any roadsign telling me to be rude to my fellow driver would be ignored.
However if the lanes are staying at 2 and the only reason for getting upset with the lorry driver on a non selfish basis is that you would carry a lot more speed through the roadworks than the lorry.
However mostly in roadworks the speed is set IMHO to a sensible level and the lorries are probably doing right on it. So it comes down to whether you would be able and consider it right to speed through roadworks.
Never a good idea to frustrate your fellow motorist and it probably does say more about him than you that he does it, but I can understand why.
But when you think about it. If a queue ahead develops, and the lanes are going from 3 ->2 ->1 then filing down doesn't improve the flow, it just allows the drivers going down the right to jump the queue and slows up all the traffic who have been waiting patiently for their turn.
I tend to ignore roadsigns as I tend to think I lot of them lack common sense. So any roadsign telling me to be rude to my fellow driver would be ignored.
However if the lanes are staying at 2 and the only reason for getting upset with the lorry driver on a non selfish basis is that you would carry a lot more speed through the roadworks than the lorry.
However mostly in roadworks the speed is set IMHO to a sensible level and the lorries are probably doing right on it. So it comes down to whether you would be able and consider it right to speed through roadworks.
Never a good idea to frustrate your fellow motorist and it probably does say more about him than you that he does it, but I can understand why.
The idiots who drive past a queue and the try to squeeze in deserve all the hassle they get.
If they knew anything about traffic flow at all, they would know that the slightest braking at the head of a queue has a huge knock on effect down the line, eventually leading to a standstill further back.
Therefore, if someone has to slow down, even slightly, to let them in everyone behind gets affected.
And if people are leaving gaps, its usually only for safety and smoothness, so the queue jumping t
ts just get everyone closing gaps and braking bumper to bumper, with the above effect.
They should read the signs and the situation - everybody needs to get somewhere quick, but some of us look at the bigger picture and not at our own selfish situation.
Oh, and I'm definitely not a trucker or any kind of HGV driver - I like to travel as quick as anyone, but queue jumpers are one of my pet HATES
If they knew anything about traffic flow at all, they would know that the slightest braking at the head of a queue has a huge knock on effect down the line, eventually leading to a standstill further back.
Therefore, if someone has to slow down, even slightly, to let them in everyone behind gets affected.
And if people are leaving gaps, its usually only for safety and smoothness, so the queue jumping t
ts just get everyone closing gaps and braking bumper to bumper, with the above effect. They should read the signs and the situation - everybody needs to get somewhere quick, but some of us look at the bigger picture and not at our own selfish situation.
Oh, and I'm definitely not a trucker or any kind of HGV driver - I like to travel as quick as anyone, but queue jumpers are one of my pet HATES
BIIOAB
I am not talking about queue jumpers, merely drivers trying to do what the road signs suggest, and someone else deciding that those drivers should not be allowed to obey the signs.
As stated before, I object to those who go all the way to the roadworks and then try to squeeze in, this causes all the traffic to have to stop.
Merging in turn works, if people actually leave gaps and allow others to merge.
But regardless, why did this trucker, and others as I have seen it many times before, decide he should arbitrarily decide when the lanes should be reduced to one ?
>> Edited by Corpulent Tosser on Monday 24th October 10:14
I am not talking about queue jumpers, merely drivers trying to do what the road signs suggest, and someone else deciding that those drivers should not be allowed to obey the signs.
As stated before, I object to those who go all the way to the roadworks and then try to squeeze in, this causes all the traffic to have to stop.
Merging in turn works, if people actually leave gaps and allow others to merge.
But regardless, why did this trucker, and others as I have seen it many times before, decide he should arbitrarily decide when the lanes should be reduced to one ?
>> Edited by Corpulent Tosser on Monday 24th October 10:14
stovey said:
I've often wondered about this. . .
So, I if there are three or two lanes gradually merging into one on a motorway do you think getting left early is better for traffic flow or is merging at the last minute most efficient?
Depends on whether you think about everyone or just yourself.
If its yourself you merge late.
If its everyone you merge as early as possible.
A trucker doing this deliberately tried to kill me once...
I'm not sure about the whole 'queue jumping' thing though. At what point does it become acceptable to be in one the lanes that's getting closed? Half a mile before the obstruction? 1 mile? 2 miles? Or do you have to be a typical Brit and join the queue as soon as you see it?
At the same time, driving all the way up to the cones and then trying to force your way in doesn't seem very sensible either as you've got nowhere to go if nobody will let you in.
As for people trying to merge causing braking and a ripple effect jam, nonsense. If everyone left a sensible gap there would be no problem at all, it's just the selfish, ignorant 'you're not getting in front of me' mentality that causes it... And then we're back to the trucker that tried to kill me.
I'm not sure about the whole 'queue jumping' thing though. At what point does it become acceptable to be in one the lanes that's getting closed? Half a mile before the obstruction? 1 mile? 2 miles? Or do you have to be a typical Brit and join the queue as soon as you see it?
At the same time, driving all the way up to the cones and then trying to force your way in doesn't seem very sensible either as you've got nowhere to go if nobody will let you in.
As for people trying to merge causing braking and a ripple effect jam, nonsense. If everyone left a sensible gap there would be no problem at all, it's just the selfish, ignorant 'you're not getting in front of me' mentality that causes it... And then we're back to the trucker that tried to kill me.
There was a pair of tosser truck drivers who did this as CarZee and I were on our way to Silverstone. 
The usual CarZee antics followed as he drove onto the grass embankment, passed both trucks on the embankment rally style and continued up the dual carriageway with triumphant gesticulations.
A fine moment.
The usual CarZee antics followed as he drove onto the grass embankment, passed both trucks on the embankment rally style and continued up the dual carriageway with triumphant gesticulations.
A fine moment.
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