289, 302, 327, 350, 351, 383, 426, 427, 428, 429, 440 . . .

289, 302, 327, 350, 351, 383, 426, 427, 428, 429, 440 . . .

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dinkel

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27,341 posts

271 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2005
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Yup, tell me what's your fav classic Yank lump. I like the 440 and I dunno why. Sound and graphs I guess because I've never driven one . . . www.pistonheads.com/sales/56931.htm the 351 Cleeve (as in Pantera) makes that one a car to have.

And yes, I left a few out to end with the 440 Magnum . . .

wingchundave

2,253 posts

245 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2005
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427 in a Cobra please.




and can be heard here: Nice V8

>> Edited by wingchundave on Tuesday 22 November 08:46

combover

3,009 posts

240 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2005
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The 426 Hemi.
I read a report a few years ago that tested a Hemi Charger from 1970 and the car developed a fault meaning that it only ran on 2 cylinders towards the end of the test. Even so, the editor observed that it would still see off most 3-litre machines....you don't get much stronger in the engine department than that!

Combover

vario-rob

3,034 posts

261 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2005
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Here comes the daily pedant!!!

Not all Pantera’s used the Cleveland the day they rolled out of the factory, later cars used the more plentiful 351 Windsor with a handful also using an Australian Ford experimental 340 cui block. The Very last Pantera Si used a 302cui lump out of the Mustang of that period.

None the less a combination of short exhausts and Cleveland power gave the Pantera a great soundtrack and of course it wasn’t just the Pantera that benefited!

The Deauville is having a full stainless steel exhaust fabricated and rest assured, the soundtrack will not disappoint and will it certainly will not sound like a Jag!!!

MikeyT

17,229 posts

284 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2005
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The 390 Ford is a pretty unbreakable lump ... in the Thunderbirds from the 60s and also 67/68 Mustangs ... millions made - very reliable, tuneable - and huge – 6 litres.

dinkel

Original Poster:

27,341 posts

271 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2005
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Thanx for your usefull info Rob, but what's your pick of the bunch? DeTom D has a 350 hasn't it?

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

262 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2005
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My favourites are,

426 Hemi



Boss 429



My 418 LT5

MartinD

2,138 posts

240 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2005
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426 Hemi



Nicking Cliff's pic.
THE HEMI
The power behind the most feared PRODUCTION muscle cars, over 9000 produced '66-'71
Its also the most powerful piston engine on earth, 6,500+ BHP in Top Fuel racing set up.
Its also a Chrysler engine, just like my 2nd Fav. the 440 six pack which I am lucky to have in my '66 Plymouth, 390 bhp 490 ft.Ilb stock.

raf dug

3,515 posts

267 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2005
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dinkel said:
Yup, tell me what's your fav classic Yank lump. I like the 440 and I dunno why. Sound and graphs I guess because I've never driven one . . . www.pistonheads.com/sales/56931.htm the 351 Cleeve (as in Pantera) makes that one a car to have.

And yes, I left a few out to end with the 440 Magnum . . .


I drove a Viper rt10 or st10, convertible on my 40th birthday last year, I don't know what the engine was called, but I think it was an 8ltr V10 thats my favourite american engine

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

262 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2005
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Here you go Dug,you had one of these under your toe.

LRdriver II

1,936 posts

262 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2005
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I've got a 351 windsor in this:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/457477809/457477

Needless to say its in hibernation now as it would be suicide to drive with the slippery roads. Great noise, 410bhp that spits flames, scares children and old ladies whilst setting of car alarms with the vibrations.

vario-rob

3,034 posts

261 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2005
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dinkel said:
Thanx for your usefull info Rob, but what's your pick of the bunch? DeTom D has a 350 hasn't it?


Yep, the Deauville has got a 351 Cleveland in it albeit its about to be rebuilt. Probably mad as you can buy some good performance Ford engines from the States in a box which would be the cheaper option but I want to keep the original engine numbers.

The Windsor does offer a range of tuning options and after having being bored and stroked to 427 a comfortable 500 bhp is yours to enjoy. The navy blue Pantera on German plates in the recent Pantera thread on this board ran a 427 Windsor and is to put it politely ****ing fast! I’ve not driven her personally although I know another Pistonhead member GT5S has had the pleasure.

Vmax eating performance I would guess, nice for upsetting Grey 996 turbo’s as well!!!

dinkel

Original Poster:

27,341 posts

271 months

Thursday 24th November 2005
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vario-rob said:
. . . a 351 Cleveland . . .


Engine; 351 Cleveland with RAM air induction, two 650 dbl. bumper Holley carbs.

runt

314 posts

240 months

Friday 25th November 2005
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I know it doesn't matter, and excuse my ignorance,always wondered,are the 351 lumps 'small' or 'big' blocks ?Might sell the Chimaera in the future and go for a Cobra replica,but unsure about choice of engine.

cyberface

12,214 posts

270 months

Friday 25th November 2005
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These numbers (apart from some being 'famous' in a petrolhead statto fashion) don't immediately mean much to me re: size, given that cubic inches are a bit foreign to me so I thought I'd add to the thread a translation, more for my own amusement:

289 ci = 4.7 l
302 ci = 4.9 l
327 ci = 5.4 l
350 ci = 5.7 l
351 ci = 5.8 l
383 ci = 6.3 l
426 ci = 7.0 l
427 ci = 7.0 l
428 ci = 7.0 l
429 ci = 7.0 l
440 ci = 7.2 l

Big engines!

v-spec

774 posts

264 months

Friday 25th November 2005
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cyberface said:
These numbers (apart from some being 'famous' in a petrolhead statto fashion) don't immediately mean much to me re: size, given that cubic inches are a bit foreign to me so I thought I'd add to the thread a translation, more for my own amusement:

289 ci = 4.7 l
302 ci = 4.9 l
327 ci = 5.4 l
350 ci = 5.7 l
351 ci = 5.8 l
383 ci = 6.3 l
426 ci = 7.0 l
427 ci = 7.0 l
428 ci = 7.0 l
429 ci = 7.0 l
440 ci = 7.2 l

Big engines!


You missed mine: 454 = 7.42 l (and 8mpg)
I don't know how it compares to the others, as far as "big" engines go I've only ever driven a 289 'stang and other Corvettes, mainly 350s. I've got no complaints though

v8voodoo

1,308 posts

256 months

Saturday 26th November 2005
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Errrmm...
I'm pleased to say that my old 454ci big block chevy is now a 468ci in my '59 Chevy Apache. Torque is mountainous and it's a scary ride in the damp but do I love it... oh, and it isn't as bad on petrol as you might think...



dinkel

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27,341 posts

271 months

Saturday 26th November 2005
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Jon C

3,214 posts

260 months

Sunday 27th November 2005
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You want a big V8?

Pro Modified Nitrous motors routinely run to 726 cubic inches. Somewhere over 10 litres.

Top Fuel Motors are generally 500ci displacement now. 6500 to 7000 HP is common.

MartinD

2,138 posts

240 months

Sunday 27th November 2005
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Jon C said:
You want a big V8?

Pro Modified Nitrous motors routinely run to 726 cubic inches. Somewhere over 10 litres.



726 is actually 11.9 ltrs, but that's in a race car, how about a 612cu.in./10 ltr BB Chevy in a street car ?, well that's what we are putting in my friends car