Your opinions please? Big wheels, or standard?
Your opinions please? Big wheels, or standard?
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neil_cardiff

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17,113 posts

287 months

Monday 24th April 2006
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Hi All,

I've now got my Golf fitted out with some 17" Audi TT Comp alloys (with Toyos) and I'm still not sure about them yet...

Can you all give me your opinions please - good or bad?

Thanks

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>> Edited by neil_cardiff on Monday 24th April 09:59

L100NYY

36,363 posts

266 months

Monday 24th April 2006
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I like it but the car does now sit rather high? Time for some adjustable suspension?

Overall though it's a from me!

SamHH

5,065 posts

239 months

Monday 24th April 2006
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I prefer it with the standard wheels. Nothing wrong with the Audi design, I just think they look a bit silly being so big.

neil_cardiff

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17,113 posts

287 months

Monday 24th April 2006
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L100NYY said:
I like it but the car does now sit rather high? Time for some adjustable suspension?

Overall though it's a from me!


It's on the cards - they rub a little on bumps with three people in the car so I'm guessing they'll rub under hard cornering too - so I'll need to sort out the suspension. Probably have to get the arches rolled too

However, it's dependant on whether I keep the wheels or not - I'd like to try 16"s (Mk3 Anniversary models came with 16"s).

>> Edited by neil_cardiff on Monday 24th April 10:12

mrvette

973 posts

250 months

Monday 24th April 2006
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the wheels def look good but as said above it need lowering, looks like a 4x4 right now

ehyouwhat

4,606 posts

241 months

Monday 24th April 2006
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Wheels look nice, they're not too giddy and (imho) they're not too big either. Once the suspension is sorted the car will look well.

EmmaP

11,758 posts

262 months

Monday 24th April 2006
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I prefer the original ones to the new ones. These are out of proportion with the rest of the car. The car also sits too high and the lines, therefore, look awkward. Personally, I would lower the suspension and maybe choose some alternative alloys. I'm looking at some rather lovely BSA ones as I type.

Davi

17,153 posts

243 months

Monday 24th April 2006
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Surely the ride height of the vehicle will not have been affected at all as he'll have put a tyre profile on to keep the rolling radius identical to the original, so that the speedo is still correct and steering geometery unaffected...?

I'm not sure on them - I like the size of them, but not sure of the style - so not a lot of help there then!

bjwoods

5,018 posts

307 months

Monday 24th April 2006
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Proportions look wrong

so - standard

Same design - same size as original wheel perhaps.

B

neil_cardiff

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Monday 24th April 2006
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Davi said:
Surely the ride height of the vehicle will not have been affected at all as he'll have put a tyre profile on to keep the rolling radius identical to the original, so that the speedo is still correct and steering geometery unaffected...?


Yep, standard is 205/50/15 and I've stuck on 205/40/17 which is near as dammit the same.

EmmaP

11,758 posts

262 months

Monday 24th April 2006
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Davi said:
Surely the ride height of the vehicle will not have been affected at all as he'll have put a tyre profile on to keep the rolling radius identical to the original, so that the speedo is still correct and steering geometery unaffected...?

I'm not sure on them - I like the size of them, but not sure of the style - so not a lot of help there then!


I did not write that very well did I? Comparing the two pictures, in the first one, the car appears too look higher. I think the car would look better if it were lowered. Having said that, still as I look at the second picture, it just seems to sit better. So, I am saying, ultimately, that the new wheels do not suit the line of the car. They are out of proportion and therefore make it look awkward. And that is why, I believe, that it looks like the rear is sitting too high. I do not like the style of the alloy wheel in the first picture. BSA do some lovely alloys. I am sure that Neil would find a more suitable style should he wish to pick up a catalogue.

Don

28,378 posts

307 months

Monday 24th April 2006
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Another NO vote. Try a different set...

Davi

17,153 posts

243 months

Monday 24th April 2006
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EmmaP said:
I did not write that very well did I?


LOL - neither did I, it was more a response to L100NYY's post saying the car "now" looks too high - should have quoted him!

EmmaP

11,758 posts

262 months

Monday 24th April 2006
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neil_cardiff said:
Davi said:
Surely the ride height of the vehicle will not have been affected at all as he'll have put a tyre profile on to keep the rolling radius identical to the original, so that the speedo is still correct and steering geometery unaffected...?


Yep, standard is 205/50/15 and I've stuck on 205/40/17 which is near as dammit the same.


Doesn't that mean that the tyre wall is slightly shallower? Maybe that is another reason that I prefer the others. I was going to suggest that you alter the tyre to get a deeper one. I did that on my Corrado (admittedly because they no longer did Eagle F1s in the standard size for my car, but I was assured that they would look even nicer, and they do).

I cannot see the cars side by side on here, so have downloaded one of them. Taking another look, I have seen that the shot of the car with the new alloys is taken from a different vantage point. This is what is making the car look higher at the back end.

>> Edited by EmmaP on Monday 24th April 10:48

Rob_F

4,143 posts

287 months

Monday 24th April 2006
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The Golf Mark 4 looks good on TT wheels but i think your car looks better on the originals tbh.

Cheers,
Rob.

neil_cardiff

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EmmaP said:
neil_cardiff said:
Davi said:
Surely the ride height of the vehicle will not have been affected at all as he'll have put a tyre profile on to keep the rolling radius identical to the original, so that the speedo is still correct and steering geometery unaffected...?


Yep, standard is 205/50/15 and I've stuck on 205/40/17 which is near as dammit the same.


Doesn't that mean that the tyre wall is slightly shallower? Maybe that is another reason that I prefer the others. I was going to suggest that you alter the tyre to get a deeper one. I did that on my Corrado (admittedly because they no longer did Eagle F1s in the standard size for my car, but I was assured that they would look even nicer, and they do).

I cannot see the cars side by side on here, so have downloaded one of them. Taking another look, I have seen that the shot of the car with the new alloys is taken from a different vantage point. This is what is making the car look higher at the back end.

>> Edited by EmmaP on Monday 24th April 10:48


Its not a great shot at all, I'll try and get another done...

The tyres roll correctly (says the calculator thingummy I found) although they are stretched a little more due to being 7.5j as opposed to 7j - but this should be better than worse for the rolling radius...

Ride quality is not that much worse, although I wince a little more on the bigger potholes now - and kerbs *eek!*

I'm in one hell of a quandry - I'm considering 16" in the same style, or the BBS flat face style seen on the Anniversaries but seeing as I've forked out nigh on £600 for the wheels and tyres, I've got to be sure

I appreciate your comments

>> Edited by neil_cardiff on Monday 24th April 11:00

adycav

7,615 posts

240 months

Monday 24th April 2006
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Standard wheels for me every time - as a car like your Golf ages you see less and less tidy standard-looking examples around, and these are the ones, ironically, that stand out.

neil_cardiff

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adycav said:
Standard wheels for me every time - as a car like your Golf ages you see less and less tidy standard-looking examples around, and these are the ones, ironically, that stand out.


I agree wholeheartedly, and was very resistant to trying out bigger wheels on the Golf. I'm sending the old wheels off to be refurbished while I'm buggering about, so they may still go back on - one of the benefits was the fact that the 50 profile gave me a bit of 'compliance' when cornering

Davi

17,153 posts

243 months

Monday 24th April 2006
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neil_cardiff said:

The tyres roll correctly (says the calculator thingummy I found) although they are stretched a little more due to being 7.5j as opposed to 7j - but this should be better than worse for the rolling radius...


to get it as near as possible you could have gone to 215/35 but you've only gained about 3cm on the rolling circumferance so not too bad - you'll see about 2% extra speedo error.

Edited to make sense!



>> Edited by Davi on Monday 24th April 11:15

neil_cardiff

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Monday 24th April 2006
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Davi said:
neil_cardiff said:

The tyres roll correctly (says the calculator thingummy I found) although they are stretched a little more due to being 7.5j as opposed to 7j - but this should be better than worse for the rolling radius...


to get it as near as possible you could have gone to 215/35 but you've only gained about 3cm on the rolling circumferance so not too bad - you'll see about 2% extra speedo error.

Edited to make sense!

i.e. if I were doing 100mph I'd see 102? or 98?

I checked before getting them, and from what I saw the 205/40's were the recommended size, and additionally the tyres are cheaper (£68 each fitted/balanced)



>> Edited by Davi on Monday 24th April 11:15