Weapons found in London mosque raid
Discussion
Is it just me, or am I right to start to feel slightly worried now?
A quote - "barbaric desecration of our mosque"
Ok, WTF were a stun gun and CS gas doing there?
Weapons found in London mosque raid
20/01/2003 21:28
By Andrew Cawthorne
LONDON (Reuters) - Police searching a London mosque which was raided in the country’s biggest anti-terror operation since September 11 say they have found tear gas and a stun gun.
Seven men were arrested at the North London Central Mosque during a police raid that was part of a wider probe into the discovery of ricin poison.
Security services believe the mosque, in the suburb of Finsbury Park, was a centre for recruiting and supporting violent Islamic extremists.
"Police have recovered a stun gun, one blank-firing imitation firearm and one CS gas (tear gas) canister during the search of the Finsbury Park mosque," a police spokeswoman said.
"Police have also recovered a large quantity of documents including passports, identity cards and credit cards. These have been taken away for examination and the search is ongoing."
About 150 police in body armour used battering rams and ladders to raid the mosque in the hours before dawn.
But in a sign of the sensitivity of the operation, the officers wore special covers on their shoes and avoided prayer areas "to show our respect for the Muslim faith", according to a police statement.
Six of the men arrested were north Africans and one was east European. They were taken from inside the mosque and two adjacent homes and are still being questioned.
"These are people involved in terrorist activities, we believe," Assistant Police Commissioner Andy Trotter told Reuters. "The intelligence has been justified by what we have found...a number of very interesting documents."
It was the most dramatic in a series of counter-terrorism swoops in recent months, with the pace quickening after the discovery earlier this month of a small amount of the deadly poison ricin in a flat in the nearby Wood Green district.
The mosque is the base of one of Britain’s most outspoken Muslim clerics, Abu Hamza al-Masri, who won notoriety for praising Saudi-born militant Osama bin Laden’s al Qaeda network, which Washington blames for the September 11, 2001 attacks.
Egyptian-born Masri, who has one eye and wears a hook where a hand was blown off by a landmine, was not arrested.
"DESECRATION"?
He told Reuters the raid was a "barbaric desecration of our mosque", part of an unfair wider "war on Muslims". It was a knee-jerk reaction to last week’s killing of a policeman in an anti-terror raid in northern England, said Masri.
Masri, leader of a group called Supporters of Sharia (Islamic law), said two of the seven men held were security staff and five volunteers who did tasks like cleaning.
"Police believe these premises have played a role in the recruitment of suspected terrorists and in supporting their activity both here and abroad," the police statement said.
Britain has arrested more than 200 terror suspects since the September 11 attacks, with most of those detained said to be north African and mainly Algerian.
A spokesman for Tony Blair said the operation had the prime minister’s full support. "The Islamic religion has been hijacked by a small group of fanatics," he added.
Moderate Muslim groups were uncomfortable with the raid on a place of sanctity but eager to distance themselves from Masri.
Radical Islamists, however, were defiant.
"This raid will increase our recruitment," Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad, leader of the radical UK-based al Muhajiroun group, told Reuters. "If they arrest us, we will become martyrs."
A quote - "barbaric desecration of our mosque"
Ok, WTF were a stun gun and CS gas doing there?
Weapons found in London mosque raid
20/01/2003 21:28
By Andrew Cawthorne
LONDON (Reuters) - Police searching a London mosque which was raided in the country’s biggest anti-terror operation since September 11 say they have found tear gas and a stun gun.
Seven men were arrested at the North London Central Mosque during a police raid that was part of a wider probe into the discovery of ricin poison.
Security services believe the mosque, in the suburb of Finsbury Park, was a centre for recruiting and supporting violent Islamic extremists.
"Police have recovered a stun gun, one blank-firing imitation firearm and one CS gas (tear gas) canister during the search of the Finsbury Park mosque," a police spokeswoman said.
"Police have also recovered a large quantity of documents including passports, identity cards and credit cards. These have been taken away for examination and the search is ongoing."
About 150 police in body armour used battering rams and ladders to raid the mosque in the hours before dawn.
But in a sign of the sensitivity of the operation, the officers wore special covers on their shoes and avoided prayer areas "to show our respect for the Muslim faith", according to a police statement.
Six of the men arrested were north Africans and one was east European. They were taken from inside the mosque and two adjacent homes and are still being questioned.
"These are people involved in terrorist activities, we believe," Assistant Police Commissioner Andy Trotter told Reuters. "The intelligence has been justified by what we have found...a number of very interesting documents."
It was the most dramatic in a series of counter-terrorism swoops in recent months, with the pace quickening after the discovery earlier this month of a small amount of the deadly poison ricin in a flat in the nearby Wood Green district.
The mosque is the base of one of Britain’s most outspoken Muslim clerics, Abu Hamza al-Masri, who won notoriety for praising Saudi-born militant Osama bin Laden’s al Qaeda network, which Washington blames for the September 11, 2001 attacks.
Egyptian-born Masri, who has one eye and wears a hook where a hand was blown off by a landmine, was not arrested.
"DESECRATION"?
He told Reuters the raid was a "barbaric desecration of our mosque", part of an unfair wider "war on Muslims". It was a knee-jerk reaction to last week’s killing of a policeman in an anti-terror raid in northern England, said Masri.
Masri, leader of a group called Supporters of Sharia (Islamic law), said two of the seven men held were security staff and five volunteers who did tasks like cleaning.
"Police believe these premises have played a role in the recruitment of suspected terrorists and in supporting their activity both here and abroad," the police statement said.
Britain has arrested more than 200 terror suspects since the September 11 attacks, with most of those detained said to be north African and mainly Algerian.
A spokesman for Tony Blair said the operation had the prime minister’s full support. "The Islamic religion has been hijacked by a small group of fanatics," he added.
Moderate Muslim groups were uncomfortable with the raid on a place of sanctity but eager to distance themselves from Masri.
Radical Islamists, however, were defiant.
"This raid will increase our recruitment," Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad, leader of the radical UK-based al Muhajiroun group, told Reuters. "If they arrest us, we will become martyrs."
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Worry about what's not in the news, not what the 13000rpm Labour spin cycle chooses to feed us, the dumb British public.
Worry about what's not in the news, not what the 13000rpm Labour spin cycle chooses to feed us, the dumb British public.
Omar Bakri is one terror-assed fund-raising lunatic motherf
"This raid will increase our recruitment," Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad, leader of the radical UK-based al Muhajiroun group, told Reuters. "If they arrest us, we will become martyrs."
r .. 
One interesting and useful insight into his unassuming covert wickedness can be found in 'Them' by Jon Ronson. A very interesting volume - my copy is well thumbed.
>> Edited by CarZee (moderator) on Monday 20th January 22:37
You read it too huh?
Psychobert said: Hadn't read the other thread on this, but I knew I knew the name from somewhere..
I know some of the sections regarding the Bilderberg Group were most likley tosh, but the UK based fundamentalist group experience was truly fasciating.. especially the crux of his personal experience - ie when they figured out he's Jewish..
The weapons were in there for "personal use" i think.
Something to do with a weird sexual fetish that Hamza has got with having a stun gun poked up his fat ass and whacked onto "overkill" mode, while simultaneously inhaling large quantites of Cs at the height of climax....
Or am i wrong?
Something to do with a weird sexual fetish that Hamza has got with having a stun gun poked up his fat ass and whacked onto "overkill" mode, while simultaneously inhaling large quantites of Cs at the height of climax....
Or am i wrong?
CarZee said:You read it too huh?
Psychobert said: Hadn't read the other thread on this, but I knew I knew the name from somewhere..
I know some of the sections regarding the Bilderberg Group were most likley tosh, but the UK based fundamentalist group experience was truly fasciating.. especially the crux of his personal experience - ie when they figured out he's Jewish..
Rings a bell.. Have to have a root around the piles of books I've got lying around here.. If its not that, its something similar..
deltaf said: The weapons were in there for "personal use" i think.
Something to do with a weird sexual fetish that Hamza has got with having a stun gun poked up his fat ass and whacked onto "overkill" mode, while simultaneously inhaling large quantites of Cs at the height of climax....
Or am i wrong?
Not sure.. Were there any tory MPs there? Or do they just go for the auto-erotic self strangulation wearing stockings with an orange thing? Cs gas is probably a bit odd for them..
May have been a throw away comment, but possibly not a bad idea. If people really object to being British, then they shouldn't really be here.
apache said: I think we should take a leaf from the yanks, time to start hanging Union Jacks out everywhere, see how many people we can offend
Are people really listening. The Finsbury Park Mosque is well known as a terrorist hub, and they still are saying that this is an attack on Islam. No, it is an attack on people that want to blow the rest of us up. It may well be against human rights (I'm waiting for the first trial of a DD killer that pleads that he should be able to do wtf he wants), but it is in the country's best interests to raid all of these places (centres of terrorism, not Mosques btw).
Oh no. I'm joining the growing ranks of formally mild mannered tolerant PHers that are heading for revolt
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deltaf said: The weapons were in there for "personal use" i think.
Something to do with a weird sexual fetish that Hamza has got with having a stun gun poked up his fat ass and whacked onto "overkill" mode, while simultaneously inhaling large quantites of Cs at the height of climax....
Or am i wrong?
I must suggest that one to my girlfriend............
>> Edited by robp on Tuesday 21st January 00:07
deltaf said: The weapons were in there for "personal use" i think.
Something to do with a weird sexual fetish that Hamza has got with having a stun gun poked up his fat muslim ass and whacked onto "overkill" mode, while simultaneously inhaling large quantites of Cs at the height of climax....
Or am i wrong?
Deltaf,
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