Have I missed something.....?
Have I missed something.....?
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ubernoober

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534 posts

233 months

Friday 15th December 2006
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you know how it is, up to your earlobes in work, your head's down and you're focussed on getting the job done and you're not too aware of what's going on around you - so........ when did the national speed limit get dropped to 40mph?

cos that's everyone seems to be doing around here now, except on motorways and town centre carparks (where it's 50 mph for both!). It wasn't like it about or month or so back so something must have happened.

I wouldn't mind if it was the odd grey in their Micra or the brat-loaded baby-bus, but it seems to be every bugger, just sitting in convoys, just doing 40 mph, on good decent straight roads, any time of day.

or is it just me losing my patience?



jasandjules

71,911 posts

252 months

Saturday 16th December 2006
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Didn't you know? Speed Kills...

You can drive drunk/stoned/looking at the kids, on the mobile, with the stereo up full, swerving over all the white lines, stop at an empty roundabout, drive round the roundabout the wrong way.. None of this is dangerous as long as you obey the speed limit.

However, break that limit, and you are a child killer.

Carry on.

pwig

12,001 posts

293 months

Saturday 16th December 2006
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I blame Tony Blair.

Pigeon

18,535 posts

269 months

Saturday 16th December 2006
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A lot of it's because some total and utter wankstain introduced a 40mph limit for trucks on A-roads, and so many A-roads are a frustrating combination of gentle curves on which you can go for miles without ever quite being able to see enough to overtake no matter where you position yourself, followed by what would be nice overtaking straights if there wasn't a bloody junction right in the middle of it. So even without the numpties doing 40mph in the clear, you still don't have to go very far before you come up behind a truck doing 40mph with a big long string of cars behind it.

I think they ought to make all trucks with a set of big long ramps front and rear, so you can overtake them simply by driving over the top.

L100NYY

36,364 posts

266 months

Saturday 16th December 2006
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Pigeon said:
I think they ought to make all trucks with a set of big long ramps front and rear, so you can overtake them simply by driving over the top.


Ypu want to get yourself one of these!

silversun

4,373 posts

249 months

Saturday 16th December 2006
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I've noticed this a lot on the A406. It's 50mph along much of it but everyone does 40.

My main gripe though is the A13 from Barking eastbound. It turns into NSL but everyone sits in the middle and outside lanes at 45/50.

T'other day the OH was driving behind someone in the outside lane and they suddenly spotted the lines on the road which were painted when there were temporary speed cameras a couple of years ago. What did they do? Slam on the anchors and brake to about 35/40mph. In the outside lane. In an NSL zone. ing cretins, they were lucky not to have caused an accident.

chris71

21,548 posts

265 months

Saturday 16th December 2006
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ubernoober said:
you know how it is, up to your earlobes in work, your head's down and you're focussed on getting the job done and you're not too aware of what's going on around you - so........ when did the national speed limit get dropped to 40mph?

cos that's everyone seems to be doing around here now, except on motorways and town centre carparks (where it's 50 mph for both!). It wasn't like it about or month or so back so something must have happened.

I wouldn't mind if it was the odd grey in their Micra or the brat-loaded baby-bus, but it seems to be every bugger, just sitting in convoys, just doing 40 mph, on good decent straight roads, any time of day.

or is it just me losing my patience?





Oh you're wrong - it's 42 mph! precisely 42.

This is because at 40 they might occasionally drop down to 37 or 38mph, where an average car would have a chance to overtake somewhere along the course of an average b-road, instead their speed is carefully calculated to cause maximum annoyance - slow enough to disrupt, just quick enough to prevent those of us with mundane hatches getting past!

....Do I sound paranoid?

The serious answer is 40mph is about the speed they can settle at on an average free flowing UK road in a modern car without having to accelerate, brake, change gear or anything else that might distract them from radio 4. They could go faster, but that would mean some degree of concentration and that would never do.

Edited by chris71 on Saturday 16th December 19:20

Globulator

13,847 posts

254 months

Saturday 16th December 2006
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silversun said:
I've noticed this a lot on the A406. It's 50mph along much of it but everyone does 40.
I do 34mph all the way along, in case I'm bombing along at 50 into a 30 section + camera and end up with points. 34 is a nice simple number and means I can see other things on the road, like mobile speed traps and cameras, and of course my luvverly speedo..

silversun

4,373 posts

249 months

Sunday 17th December 2006
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Globulator said:
I do 34mph all the way along, in case I'm bombing along at 50 into a 30 section + camera and end up with points. 34 is a nice simple number and means I can see other things on the road, like mobile speed traps and cameras, and of course my luvverly speedo..


You do 34mph in a 50 zone? Are you serious or have I misunderstood? confused

L100NYY

36,364 posts

266 months

Sunday 17th December 2006
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silversun said:
Globulator said:
I do 34mph all the way along, in case I'm bombing along at 50 into a 30 section + camera and end up with points. 34 is a nice simple number and means I can see other things on the road, like mobile speed traps and cameras, and of course my luvverly speedo..


You do 34mph in a 50 zone? Are you serious or have I misunderstood? confused


I think Globulator must be taking the pish surely!?!? At least I do hope so, it's either that or he meant to post it on the Speedkills website forum!

rolleyes

He is probably the same person that does 30mph in a nsl area but then proceeds to do 30mph past a school in a residential area. Makes my blood boil, it really does.

Globulator

13,847 posts

254 months

Sunday 17th December 2006
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silversun said:
You do 34mph in a 50 zone? Are you serious or have I misunderstood? confused
No, only on the A406, I simply can't be arsed to play the stupid catch-me-if-you-can game of driving to the speed limits on that road because it changes too often and I only have to make one slip to involve a lot of arguing in court and a possible 3 points + £60.

They only change the limits every few hundred yards to catch the unwary anyway, the whole lot could be 40 or 50 and still be perfectly safe. I regard that road more as a mouse trap than a road, my sole aim along it is to leave it without a ticket, sod the driving

sminky

41 posts

231 months

Sunday 17th December 2006
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I am entirely serious when I suggest that a large number of motorists don't know that the white-circle-with-black-diagonal means NSL and I'm sure that even more don't know that the effective limit changes on dual carriageways and for different vehicle classes.

elster

17,517 posts

233 months

Monday 18th December 2006
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Don't know but the M42 overhead signs this evening took the speed down to 1 lane and 20MPH.......

..For what......Nothing, all 3 lanes clear and not one thing on the road.

Absolute lunacy!!!!!

LuS1fer

43,205 posts

268 months

Monday 18th December 2006
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Many drivers these days seem totally incapable of making progress or more importantly, allowing those who can make progress to do so. Some woman in a Daihatsu Charade was all over the damn place last week driving too slowly and not having a clue which lane she ought to try for. Undertaking was the only way to dispatch her to avoid danger to me. A Mitsubishi pickup truck in the outside lane of the motorway was also an annoyance, overtaking a car and then there was a stretch of about 1/4 mile before the next car. Does he move over? Does he buggery. So passing him on the inside was the only option again. Of course, had the centre lane hoggers moved the f*ck over, he would at least have had a second option.

I'm pretty sure frustration kills more than speed.

mat205125

17,790 posts

236 months

Monday 18th December 2006
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I get frustrated by the people who appear to make zero effort to try and progress past the 42mph blockade driving in front of them, yet feel compelled to drive along welded to their rear bumper.

This is not a problem when a suitable opportunity eventually appears to allow a multi-car over take, however for day to day driving (in the boring hum drum hatches and saloons we mostly use for the commutes - I'm renamed mine the VW Pass-out as that's exactly how it makes you feel) it is far more common and safer to work your way through the traffic 1 or 2 cars at a time.

Trouble comes that the gap these people leave between the cars are often smaller than Russ Swift could maneover a smart car into, and they don't like having their progress imparred by people squeezing in between them and the car they are "drafting"

silversun

4,373 posts

249 months

Monday 18th December 2006
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Globulator said:
No, only on the A406, I simply can't be arsed to play the stupid catch-me-if-you-can game of driving to the speed limits on that road because it changes too often and I only have to make one slip to involve a lot of arguing in court and a possible 3 points + £60.

They only change the limits every few hundred yards to catch the unwary anyway, the whole lot could be 40 or 50 and still be perfectly safe. I regard that road more as a mouse trap than a road, my sole aim along it is to leave it without a ticket, sod the driving


Phew, I thought for a minute you were a Speed Kills escapee!

We must be talking about different sections of the 406. The bit I mostly use is the Beckton to A10 section which as far as I recall is 50mph with a pointless 40 zone over a flyover. Besides, further round near Green Lanes and towards Hangar Lane you're lucky to be able to get over 5mph most times!