A very funny movie
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Found this on the net.....PLEASE see it as a funny movie and nothing else.
http://members.aol.com/matt999h/asylum.htm
It's not funny. Lots of people would find it and have found it offensive - including me.
This has angered me hugely for two reasons.
Firstly I abhore its racist nature and the 'Daily Mail' style misinterpretation of what motivates people to leave their homes and loved ones and jobs and assets and turn to another country for help. The people we offer sanctuary to are mostly people with genuine reasons for wanting to leave their homes - that's why we as a compassionate people get to let some of them stay (although, by the 'facts' represented in the movie, fewer than one in five of those asking for asylum are granted it. The majority of those who stay lead productive lives and contribute to the wealth of a nation in desperate need of people willing to work hard.
Secondly, that anyone could possibly find this funny, and despite realising that it's offending many people (as is shown in the notes) still insists that it should remain in the public domain because they still think it's humourous.
I'm ashamed of you matt999, but I assume your BNP membership is up to date.
This has angered me hugely for two reasons.
Firstly I abhore its racist nature and the 'Daily Mail' style misinterpretation of what motivates people to leave their homes and loved ones and jobs and assets and turn to another country for help. The people we offer sanctuary to are mostly people with genuine reasons for wanting to leave their homes - that's why we as a compassionate people get to let some of them stay (although, by the 'facts' represented in the movie, fewer than one in five of those asking for asylum are granted it. The majority of those who stay lead productive lives and contribute to the wealth of a nation in desperate need of people willing to work hard.
Secondly, that anyone could possibly find this funny, and despite realising that it's offending many people (as is shown in the notes) still insists that it should remain in the public domain because they still think it's humourous.
I'm ashamed of you matt999, but I assume your BNP membership is up to date.
Oh dear another left winger who is alwys right and has to brand anybody who disagrees as racist, little englander etc.
For the record I think the film goes a bit far and I know a Serbian assylum seeker who works hard and contributes to the country but assylum is a problem and some are economic migrants rather than genuine assylum seekers. Also surely failed assylum seekers should be sent homeotherwise what is the point of assesing them in the first place?
For the record I think the film goes a bit far and I know a Serbian assylum seeker who works hard and contributes to the country but assylum is a problem and some are economic migrants rather than genuine assylum seekers. Also surely failed assylum seekers should be sent homeotherwise what is the point of assesing them in the first place?
i quote Matt999
I feel sorry if anyone see its any other way myself.
BB
The movie was created as a 'tongue-in-cheek' look at the subject, presented as entertainment and not intended as a political statement. Realising that asylum is a fairly emotive topic, and one which some hold strong views about, before the movie was released it was shown to a number of people to get their genuine opinions. The feedback I got from them was very positive, and it would appear from the entries made in the sites guestbook that the vast majority of people who have since seen the movie have enjoyed it and taken it in the spirit in which it was intended.
There are a few people that have chosen to see it in another light or have tried to read things into the movie that were never intended. Unfortunately I have no control over how people choose to interpret it. I would hope that having watched a 5 minute cartoon featuring flying rickshaws, people falling out of aeroplane wheel-wells and camels wearing lipstick and mascara, you'd realise that it's not meant to be taken too seriously!
I feel sorry if anyone see its any other way myself.
BB
Oh dear....
Matt999 tells the truth and gets labelled racist.
Why is it that these days, "the truth" isnt allowed to be told? Whats the problem?
Its a fact that these events are happening, people coming thru multiple "safe" countries just to get a free ride once theyre here, that cannot be denied.
Some are genuine, but not many.
I wonder how many of that 101,000 are actually "genuine"?, and britain was actually the very 1st safe place to be dropped off at? NOT MANY!
If that makes the likes of Matt999 a racist for telling the truth, then i wonder what that makes those who wish to supress it?
Reverse racists of course! They WANT these people here, to build some kind of state that dosent feature "british" people in it.
As for Matts BNP membership, thats the usual low brow slur cast on anyone even attempting to tell it like it really is, Bruce, you should be ashamed, and your view "offends" me.
>> Edited by deltaf on Saturday 17th May 11:31
Matt999 tells the truth and gets labelled racist.
Why is it that these days, "the truth" isnt allowed to be told? Whats the problem?
Its a fact that these events are happening, people coming thru multiple "safe" countries just to get a free ride once theyre here, that cannot be denied.
Some are genuine, but not many.
I wonder how many of that 101,000 are actually "genuine"?, and britain was actually the very 1st safe place to be dropped off at? NOT MANY!
If that makes the likes of Matt999 a racist for telling the truth, then i wonder what that makes those who wish to supress it?
Reverse racists of course! They WANT these people here, to build some kind of state that dosent feature "british" people in it.
As for Matts BNP membership, thats the usual low brow slur cast on anyone even attempting to tell it like it really is, Bruce, you should be ashamed, and your view "offends" me.
>> Edited by deltaf on Saturday 17th May 11:31
Charity begins at home...I'm all for genuine seekers but most are not and I'd rather pay 1.8b on helping our own needy...I have no sympathy for someone who goes through other western countries just to come to ours! I'm offended by the remarks made by 'Bruce' on Matt99....
Typical response from the 'PC' brigade....get a life and enjoy Matt99's vid...I certainly did
Alan.
Typical response from the 'PC' brigade....get a life and enjoy Matt99's vid...I certainly did
Alan.
I very sorry if anyone has found this offensive...as i said ....take it as tongue in cheek...if you cant then PLEASE "get a life".
I have lots of friends in this position and who deal with this issue almost everyday and who dont/wouldnt get offended at this humour....if you are one of those who do then please "god help us all"....
I think i will leave it at that!!!!!!!!
>> Edited by tonyrec on Saturday 17th May 12:26
I have lots of friends in this position and who deal with this issue almost everyday and who dont/wouldnt get offended at this humour....if you are one of those who do then please "god help us all"....
I think i will leave it at that!!!!!!!!
>> Edited by tonyrec on Saturday 17th May 12:26
i have to agree with deltaf on this issue.what with the war against terrorism,the new 'son of songatte' center that the frog gvt has opened up(going back on their agreement with the u.k)and the lack of security at our ports and airports are leaving us wide open for a british 9/11 (god forbid!)and all the lental munchers can go on about is a few scroungers 'rights',WHAT RIGHTS DO WE HAVE THEN? NONE THANKS TO THE LEFTWING SOCIAL WORKER TYPES!,well i say balls,they came here with nothing and should recieve the same back with interest!but the govt still expects people like me (and you if your a tax payer) to keep them for nowt and give them a pension when they reach retirement age,leaving the country up shite creek without a paddle where it comes to our own pensioners who have been paying their 'stamps' since they started work.
this country is going down faster than a lift with its cables cut and its all due to the p.c,numpty,brainwashed by bullsh*t brigade who couldnt organise a p*ss-up in a brewery or find their arseholes with both hands,a mirror and a map BUT they still try to tell us how to live.....F
k you,get a life of your own instead of trying to feed your misguided standards on us who still have independent thought!
anyway,thats how i feel and i dont give a damn if this offends or not,its still a free country and i can say what the hell i like!
and before anyone asks,no,i am not a member of the bnp but if i did want to join i could because we still live in a democracy!(at the moment anyway!)
this country is going down faster than a lift with its cables cut and its all due to the p.c,numpty,brainwashed by bullsh*t brigade who couldnt organise a p*ss-up in a brewery or find their arseholes with both hands,a mirror and a map BUT they still try to tell us how to live.....F
k you,get a life of your own instead of trying to feed your misguided standards on us who still have independent thought! anyway,thats how i feel and i dont give a damn if this offends or not,its still a free country and i can say what the hell i like!
and before anyone asks,no,i am not a member of the bnp but if i did want to join i could because we still live in a democracy!(at the moment anyway!)
I think the main point was not that 1 in 5 get accepted, BUT of those 4 - 5 rejected (think!!! even the labour government don't want them)MOST OF THE REJECTED STILL GOT TO STAY.........
Anyway the conentions that we have signed up to means that all asylum seekers should claim asylum in the first safe country, so what happened in france, germany, italy, etc, plus the soon to be new 10 EU member states. (I'm all for taking a fair proportion of european genuine asylum seekers, but I see that we have a much higher percentage than many EU countries put together ij a small island with a quarter of the space of say france)
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>> Edited by bjwoods on Saturday 17th May 14:41
>> Edited by bjwoods on Saturday 17th May 14:43
Anyway the conentions that we have signed up to means that all asylum seekers should claim asylum in the first safe country, so what happened in france, germany, italy, etc, plus the soon to be new 10 EU member states. (I'm all for taking a fair proportion of european genuine asylum seekers, but I see that we have a much higher percentage than many EU countries put together ij a small island with a quarter of the space of say france)
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>> Edited by bjwoods on Saturday 17th May 14:41
>> Edited by bjwoods on Saturday 17th May 14:43
I'm all for helping others out AFTER we have sorted our own out. Makes me sick to think we're handing out free houses, food vouchers, heating etc etc, when some poor old sod who fought to give you the right to voice an opinion is sat at home freezing his nads off, in fear of getting mugged thinking about the dispicable things he saw in his lifetime, was he allowed to seek asylum? No. What do they get? 100 quid a year heating allowance, it bloody stinks. Call me a cynic, but it's all about us looking good on the world stage. If people really do require asylum then surely they would just flee to the nearest safest country, not several to get to England.
Gee cortinaman, don't beat around the bush. If you've got something to say just come right out and say it!
Always amazes me how anyone who offends the pc brigade can be villified, bellitled and rediculed (often in the oh so pc press), yet the majority who question the 'new age' must be clinically clean.
'on ya cortinaman.
I have an interesting argument for those who say we should accept these immigrants because they are good for the economy.
If it is good for our economy to allow them here, then why is it not good for their econoomies to encourage them to go back (or stay in the first place).
Are we not greedy to prop up our economy at the expense of theirs?
I'm in Oz. But we have the same problems and the same arguments.
Whats muslim for cheers?
Always amazes me how anyone who offends the pc brigade can be villified, bellitled and rediculed (often in the oh so pc press), yet the majority who question the 'new age' must be clinically clean.
'on ya cortinaman.
I have an interesting argument for those who say we should accept these immigrants because they are good for the economy.
If it is good for our economy to allow them here, then why is it not good for their econoomies to encourage them to go back (or stay in the first place).
Are we not greedy to prop up our economy at the expense of theirs?
I'm in Oz. But we have the same problems and the same arguments.
Whats muslim for cheers?
thanks for the vote of confidence,rjo.
your govt has a far more strict immigrant scheme compared to britain,there you have to have money,a house and a job before they will take you....whereas here you only need some rope(to tie yourself to a eurostar train),some pliers(to gain entry to an artic)an adidas tracksuit jacket(as seen in all news coverage)and an expression on your face that resembles a dog that has been caught shitting in his masters shoes just before he put them on(for the lefty immigration workers in hackney).
its getting a toss-up between moving to the states or aussie.....but i would try to gain access legally!(and with the v8 available in both countries so readily,what do i have to loose!!(except a british passport,no big deal there then!))
your govt has a far more strict immigrant scheme compared to britain,there you have to have money,a house and a job before they will take you....whereas here you only need some rope(to tie yourself to a eurostar train),some pliers(to gain entry to an artic)an adidas tracksuit jacket(as seen in all news coverage)and an expression on your face that resembles a dog that has been caught shitting in his masters shoes just before he put them on(for the lefty immigration workers in hackney).
its getting a toss-up between moving to the states or aussie.....but i would try to gain access legally!(and with the v8 available in both countries so readily,what do i have to loose!!(except a british passport,no big deal there then!))
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