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60 kph, 80 kph, 100 kph, 120 kph or unlimited. Sometimes you see "bei Nässe" beneath the limit, which just means the area is unlimited except in the wet, when the posted limit applies.
You know you're in the unlimited bits because there are no lollipops telling you the speed limit.
Chances are if you're near a town or an offslip, a limit will apply. There are unlimited bits all over the place - just look for 'em.
You know you're in the unlimited bits because there are no lollipops telling you the speed limit.
Chances are if you're near a town or an offslip, a limit will apply. There are unlimited bits all over the place - just look for 'em.
Edited by SGirl on Friday 27th July 15:40
Unrestricted sections are posted by a similar sign to the Uk's national speed limit sign - white circle with a black diagonal line through it, usually only posted when coming out of a region with a speed limit. Only difference between the Herman and Uk sign is that the Herman one isn't solid black, it's dashed/greyed slightly.
When the Herman's see this sign, it's usually a case of people going hell for leather - pretty much instantly
There is a 'recommended' limit of 130 kph, even on unrestricted sections, if you're involved in an accident and you are doing significantly more than this speed (>30kmh) and the other car isn't- then certainly as far as German insurers are concerned you carry 'some' of the liability for the accident regardless of the circumstances
When the Herman's see this sign, it's usually a case of people going hell for leather - pretty much instantly
There is a 'recommended' limit of 130 kph, even on unrestricted sections, if you're involved in an accident and you are doing significantly more than this speed (>30kmh) and the other car isn't- then certainly as far as German insurers are concerned you carry 'some' of the liability for the accident regardless of the circumstances
SGirl said:
60 kph, 80 kph, 100 kph, 120 kph or unlimited.
There's 70km/h and 130km/h to have as well The Richtgeschwindigkeit of 130km/h applies everywhere unless limited by road signs as stated by Frau S. Richtgeschwindigkeit doesn't mean that it is not allowed to drive faster, it's just that you may be held partly liable in case of being involved in an accident where you have been faster than 130. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richtgeschwindigkeit
To give you an idea, I commute on 60km of Autobahn every day. It's four lane for the first 30, and two-land for the last 30km. There are speed limits at roadworks, if there are any, and limits near junctions on the two lane section. Also, on the two lane section, overtaking for cars over iirc 7.5t GVW ist verboten. I get to drive as fast as I like almost every morning on the four lane bit, but the two lane bit usually has non-enthusiasts overtaking lorries at 100-120km/h.
Your speed shall be limited by the conditions, especially traffic and weather.
digger_R said:
There is a 'recommended' limit of 130 kph, even on unrestricted sections, if you're involved in an accident and you are doing significantly more than this speed (>30kmh) and the other car isn't- then certainly as far as German insurers are concerned you carry 'some' of the liability for the accident regardless of the circumstances
And watch your mirrors like a hawk. It's surprising how fast cars can approach you, and the Germans are generally are pretty good about getting out of your way. When it comes to overtaking on the Autobahn, East Germans in particular tend to be slower in their reaction times, so if a car doesn't dive out of your way the instant it can, give it some space to be on the safe side.
digger_R said:
Unrestricted sections are posted by a similar sign to the Uk's national speed limit sign - white circle with a black diagonal line through it, usually only posted when coming out of a region with a speed limit. Only difference between the Herman and Uk sign is that the Herman one isn't solid black, it's dashed/greyed slightly.
When the Herman's see this sign, it's usually a case of people going hell for leather - pretty much instantly
There is a 'recommended' limit of 130 kph, even on unrestricted sections, if you're involved in an accident and you are doing significantly more than this speed (>30kmh) and the other car isn't- then certainly as far as German insurers are concerned you carry 'some' of the liability for the accident regardless of the circumstances
What he said.... When the Herman's see this sign, it's usually a case of people going hell for leather - pretty much instantly
There is a 'recommended' limit of 130 kph, even on unrestricted sections, if you're involved in an accident and you are doing significantly more than this speed (>30kmh) and the other car isn't- then certainly as far as German insurers are concerned you carry 'some' of the liability for the accident regardless of the circumstances
baSkey said:
autobahn's what..?!
we were truly disappointed on our 'ring trip we really hoped to be blown away by a Ruf or something but it never happened!
we were just trying to make progress with passats and tourans in the way!
I've only used it a couple of times when visiting a friend out there and got to drive his ageing Audi A4TDi, a real rocketship.. we were truly disappointed on our 'ring trip we really hoped to be blown away by a Ruf or something but it never happened!
we were just trying to make progress with passats and tourans in the way!
Anyway, when pootling along at around 160kph we were overtaken by a black Kleeman E-class chasing a black M5, they were going massively faster than us even though they were braking and were about 10ft apart. The Kleeman sounded SO loud with a great supercharger whine
Most of the time you go along with the flow of the traffic, the most startling fact for a UK driver is how frequently the speed limit changes, other than that its much easier than our motorways.
Fidgits said:
What is the typical speed limit on these?
Usually 100kmh to 130 kmh with roadworks at about 80 kmh.Fidgits said:
How can you tell your on an unrestricted section?
Traffic flowing at 120 mph or more is a bit of a clue.All you need, including some impressive maps
http://www.autobahnatlas-online.de/
Fidgits said:
Oh, and where are the unrestricted sections to the West of the country?
There aren't many in the extreme west. Rheinland-Pfalzis mostly 130 kmh. There is the A61 west bank of the Rhine
road which is all 130 kmh and mainly used by the
Dutch caravanners.
I think the A5 from Karlsruhe to Basle is unrestricted.
Certainly I've seen Audis pulling trailers doing about
115 mph there.
There is a little bit of four lanes each way no limits
just west of Koln. I got flashed for poor lane
discipline at 135 mph in lane 3 the last time I was on it.
I could tell you other places, but then they would
get filled up with Brits who think that 95 mph
is fast, have no experience for about 40 years
of how to drive beyond about 90 mph, no experience of how
to interact with other traffic doing 120 mph plus
and so it would all end in tears.
So I'll keep my 150 mph in lane 2 roads to myself,
if that's ok.
Sorry to be so negative, but going from one
of the slowest countries in Europe to one of the
fastest has to be a big change.
mostly only 2 lane bits are derestricted in nordrhein westfalen, except odd bits of the a3 and a wee bit of a52 near dusseldorf. i think the a555 from koln to bonn is deres., but it isn't very long and all these bits are busy
for 2 laners, occasional bits of the a61 are free, a lot of the a4, the a44/46, the a1, again, they're busy
then there is the a31 further north, but again it's 2 lane and there are a few trucks meaning speed differentials are high
you have to remember that this part of germany is pretty crowded, nearly 1/4 of the population lives round there
for 2 laners, occasional bits of the a61 are free, a lot of the a4, the a44/46, the a1, again, they're busy
then there is the a31 further north, but again it's 2 lane and there are a few trucks meaning speed differentials are high
you have to remember that this part of germany is pretty crowded, nearly 1/4 of the population lives round there
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