157mph biker to be sentenced
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Anybody like to guess what the sentence might be? I'll start the bidding at 6 months in prison and £1000 fine.
157mph biker to be sentenced
Press Association
Tuesday July 15, 2003 9:08 AM
A motorcyclist caught riding at what is thought to be the
fastest speed recorded by police on a British road is due to be sentenced.
Andrew Osborne, 29, of Marston Avenue, Lighthorne Heath, Leamington Spa, was clocked by a speed camera doing 157mph on a dual carriageway in Buckinghamshire and was facing magistrates at Aylesbury.
He was appearing alongside fellow biker Neil Bolger, 29, of St Marks Close, Gaydon, Warwickshire, who was recorded doing 148mph on the same stretch of road in March this year.
The court had heard how on March 25 on the A412 Tingewick by-pass near Buckingham, a Thames Valley Police camera operator recorded Osborne on his Kawasaki 1200cc motorcycle doing 157mph overtaking a lorry on a left hand bend.
Bolger, who was riding a Kawasaki 750cc motorcycle, was clocked doing 148mph on the same bend while overtaking the large goods vehicle.
Both men admitted exceeding the 70mph speed limit and to driving dangerously.
The case had been adjourned for pre-sentence reports.
© Copyright Press Association Ltd 2003, All Rights Reserved.
157mph biker to be sentenced
Press Association
Tuesday July 15, 2003 9:08 AM
A motorcyclist caught riding at what is thought to be the
fastest speed recorded by police on a British road is due to be sentenced.
Andrew Osborne, 29, of Marston Avenue, Lighthorne Heath, Leamington Spa, was clocked by a speed camera doing 157mph on a dual carriageway in Buckinghamshire and was facing magistrates at Aylesbury.
He was appearing alongside fellow biker Neil Bolger, 29, of St Marks Close, Gaydon, Warwickshire, who was recorded doing 148mph on the same stretch of road in March this year.
The court had heard how on March 25 on the A412 Tingewick by-pass near Buckingham, a Thames Valley Police camera operator recorded Osborne on his Kawasaki 1200cc motorcycle doing 157mph overtaking a lorry on a left hand bend.
Bolger, who was riding a Kawasaki 750cc motorcycle, was clocked doing 148mph on the same bend while overtaking the large goods vehicle.
Both men admitted exceeding the 70mph speed limit and to driving dangerously.
The case had been adjourned for pre-sentence reports.
© Copyright Press Association Ltd 2003, All Rights Reserved.
deltaf said:
Hope they both get off on a technicality. 
Mmm...but they'll probably get 6 months hard labour, £2500 fine, disqualified, made to re-test, tarred and feathered, 200 lashes, branded with an 'S' on their forehead, and paraded around the Bull Ring tied to a pole as a warning to others
They will be hung, to prove the mantra that "speed kills". Do it in Germany, have a nice day. Do it in England, off to the tower with the speeding scum attempted murderers.
I know these cases are dealt on an either you did or didn't do it basis, but I really do think consideration of how fast these bikes can accellerate and brake should be taken into consideration.
Alistair Darling & Co, you are cordially invited to the next Bruntingthorpe hoon. Where Henry will strap you into a skyline and you will experience 200mph and LIVE.
DAZ
I know these cases are dealt on an either you did or didn't do it basis, but I really do think consideration of how fast these bikes can accellerate and brake should be taken into consideration.
Alistair Darling & Co, you are cordially invited to the next Bruntingthorpe hoon. Where Henry will strap you into a skyline and you will experience 200mph and LIVE.
DAZ
dazren said:
They will be hung, to prove the mantra that "speed kills". Do it in Germany, have a nice day. Do it in England, off to the tower with the speeding scum attempted murderers.
I know these cases are dealt on an either you did or didn't do it basis, but I really do think consideration of how fast these bikes can accellerate and brake should be taken into consideration.
Alistair Darling & Co, you are cordially invited to the next Bruntingthorpe hoon. Where Henry will strap you into a skyline and you will experience 200mph and LIVE.
DAZ
Do that with Darling and maybe his eyebrows will go as white as his hair.....
, another crime of the highest order. 
wiggy001 said:There are plenty, ranging from having a handgun (but not using it) to having an unregistered stuffed badger (yes really!)
Does anyone know of any other crime that doesn't have a victim? I can't think of one at the moment, least of all one that would impose a prison sentence.
CarZee said:
Does anyone know of any other crime that doesn't have a victim?
Taking drugs.
Well done sir, I knew there was another but couldn't remember what! Hijacking this thread then, should you be punished for something that doesn't have a victim (using these two crimes as examples)?
My belief is that you should not, but naturally there should be a high price to be paid if the "victimless" crime ceases to be victimless (eg death by dangerous driving at 157mph should carry a stiff
sentence) Naturally I'm happy for my opinion to be swayed if there is a reasoned argument I had not considered...
danhay said:
Does anyone know of any other crime that doesn't have a victim? I can't think of one at the moment, least of all one that would impose a prison sentence.
There are plenty, ranging from having a handgun (but not using it) to having an unregistered stuffed badger (yes really!)
I'm sure the badgers would argue that stuffing their fluffy cousins is not victimless!
chim450 said:
wiggy001 said:
Does anyone know of any other crime that doesn't have a victim?
Taking drugs.
Thread hijack.
Agreed, unfortunately the majority of habitual drug users create victims by carrying out burglaries, nicking car stereos etc.... to pay for said drugs.
Sorry for the hijack, but I thought the original questioned had been answered, after all it's obvious that they'll get hard labour for such a heinous crime
I agree with the point about the burglaries etc, but surely the police and courts will catch and punish the burgulars and send them to prison simply for the burglaries?
My point:
Break the speed limit - no victim.
Kill someone in the process, messy victim spread across three lanes.
Take drugs - no victim.
Break into someone's house to fund the drug purchases, Jonny's upset at his lack of audio-visiual viewing pleasure.
So, should you be punished for speeding/drug taking in its own right if there is no victim?
(Obviously I'm not talking about speeding past a school at 150mph...)
xskier said:I think it's a case of the punishment fitting the crime. To be given a jail sentence for a crime where there was no victim (in this instance) seems a bit harsh compared to being let off with a non custodial sentence for a crime where there was at least 1 victim i.e. burglary.
I think that to fail to punish because there is no victim this time would be short sighted. its not like these guys are doing it for the first time how long before they wind up killing someone? String em up I say...
I'm all for banning these guys for a period, but a custodial sentence is way over the top IMO. If they break the ban then by all means put them inside though.
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