Your car 'vs' BMW.
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MK4 Slowride

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10,028 posts

237 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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It's a bit ghey but worth a punt to see how your car compares to the BMW equivalent with Efficient Dynamics.

Go to: www.bmw.co.uk

Click on Efficient Dynamics & go to compare how BMW's perform against other cars. A 116i would save me all of £30 over 10,000 miles and 1 year, me being in my Festa.

off_again

13,917 posts

263 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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Mmmm, that didn't work then!

An X5 3.0si in comparison with a Lexus RX350 (didn't have the 300) actually worked out better for the Lexus!

One thing that I didn't realise though - £6k in tax for either if its a company car! Bloody hell - that's £500 a month in tax for being provided one by your company. Jeez, I knew it was bad but I didn't realise it was that bad!

Edited to add:

Even the 3.0d X5 vs the Lexus RX400h had the Lexus win...... mmm hehe

Edited by off_again on Thursday 22 May 15:36

Wattsie

1,161 posts

230 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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scratchchin Yes, quite gay...

I could save abit aparently... but of course, the £25000 for the 3-series vs £17000 for another Mondeo... meh

smile

MK4 Slowride

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237 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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Wattsie said:
scratchchin Yes, quite gay...

I could save abit aparently... but of course, the £25000 for the 3-series vs £17000 for another Mondeo... meh

smile
hehe The mondeo is better than a 5 series as well or so I've been toldwink

Zod

35,295 posts

287 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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Funnily enough, my car isn't on the list. I think they'd struggle to find anything with worse fuel consumption!

MK4 Slowride

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237 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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Efficient dynamics isn't avaialble on all models. Needless to say a top end sports car like an M5 won't be on the list. biggrin

Wattsie

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230 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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MK4 Slowride said:
Wattsie said:
scratchchin Yes, quite gay...

I could save abit aparently... but of course, the £25000 for the 3-series vs £17000 for another Mondeo... meh

smile
hehe The mondeo is better than a 5 series as well or so I've been toldwink
rofl OK, I like my car, but there's no need to burn me at the stake PH-wise... Besides, I'm not a bassist smile

beer

BigBen

12,158 posts

259 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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off_again said:
Mmmm, that didn't work then!

An X5 3.0si in comparison with a Lexus RX350 (didn't have the 300) actually worked out better for the Lexus!

One thing that I didn't realise though - £6k in tax for either if its a company car! Bloody hell - that's £500 a month in tax for being provided one by your company. Jeez, I knew it was bad but I didn't realise it was that bad!

Edited to add:

Even the 3.0d X5 vs the Lexus RX400h had the Lexus win...... mmm hehe

Edited by off_again on Thursday 22 May 15:36
Isn't the £6k the extra amount you will be taxed on, i.e. 40% of 6k still a stload but not as bad as it first looks

Ben

jamoor

14,506 posts

244 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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Crikey, they are too green, anyone know where I can get a similar car that will emit more carbons?

off_again

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263 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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Gazboy said:
Couldn't compare my Supra to a 335i but did compare a 116SE to my Getz. The BMW is cheaper in fuel (£75 a year) for a touch more performance (1.1 seconds faster to 60) but it's £1-000 more expensive to buy, more to insure and they don't mention service costs and consumables...
I somewhat doubt that Hyundai charge £100 per hour labour too... hehe

john_r

8,354 posts

300 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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I notice that none of the BMW 'M' models are listed... however Audi RS's and similar are listed. scratchchin

MK4 Slowride

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Thursday 22nd May 2008
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john_r said:
I notice that none of the BMW 'M' models are listed... however Audi RS's and similar are listed. scratchchin
That's because M-models and other large powerful models (eg: 650i) don't have ED. The Audi is listed for comparison reasons. Say you want to p/x you audi against a 320d.

havoc

33,363 posts

264 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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Did anyone find Porsche in the manufacturers list? Unusual omission...

As for that - interesting, but it doesn't tell you anything about running costs (inc. depreciation).

MK4 Slowride

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Thursday 22nd May 2008
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FFS it's about efficiency not overall ownership.

J111

3,354 posts

244 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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john_r said:
I notice that none of the BMW 'M' models are listed... however Audi RS's and similar are listed. scratchchin
Not the RS4 Avant *shrugs*

I'm more interested in how it performs at 6am on a warm summer's day blast, rather than how many planet destroying nasties it spews out, tbh.

john_r

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300 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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MK4 Slowride said:
FFS it's about efficiency not overall ownership.
I disagree - they show a financial comparison at the end implying that an ED car would be substantially cheaper to own... Not very effective and potentially misleading if they omit depreciation.

And the small print at the bottom is hilarious: Annual fuel costs based on xxx miles at a cost of 107 pence/ltr (petrol) and 114 pence/ltr (diesel).

I'd fking love to buy petrol at 107p and diesel at 114p! rofl

havoc

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264 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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MK4 Slowride said:
FFS it's about efficiency not overall ownership.
But WGAF about fuel-efficiency if the depreciation and running costs are shafting your wallet every year?

Neither of my cars gives me over 30mpg on average, yet the depreciation and running costs are a LOT lower than most of the other cars that catch my eye...which means overall they're pretty affordable!

But by your reckoning I should buy a new(er), more fuel-efficient car which will actually cost me more overall???

MK4 Slowride

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Thursday 22nd May 2008
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john_r said:
MK4 Slowride said:
FFS it's about efficiency not overall ownership.
I disagree - they show a financial comparison at the end implying that an ED car would be substantially cheaper to own... Not very effective and potentially misleading if they omit depreciation.

And the small print at the bottom is hilarious: Annual fuel costs based on xxx miles at a cost of 107 pence/ltr (petrol) and 114 pence/ltr (diesel).

I'd fking love to buy petrol at 107p and diesel at 114p! rofl
hehe Still got some work to do on the site then.

petrol is £111.9 near me (cheapest)