Fire at National Motorcycle Museum
Fire at National Motorcycle Museum
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john_p

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7,073 posts

267 months

Tuesday 16th September 2003
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hereford/worcs/3114410.stm

About 650 of the 900 or so bikes have been destroyed. What a shame. I'm sure a lot of them would be irreplaceable.

FourWheelDrift

91,183 posts

301 months

Tuesday 16th September 2003
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AJLintern

4,300 posts

280 months

Tuesday 16th September 2003
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That's very sad How could something like that happen? Did they not have a sprinkler system?!

dazren

22,612 posts

278 months

Tuesday 16th September 2003
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AJLintern said:
That's very sad How could something like that happen? Did they not have a sprinkler system?!

Good point. It was a large modern building afterall (attended their conference facilities in the basement many times).

DAZ

Buffalo

5,467 posts

271 months

Wednesday 17th September 2003
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Fcuk, now that is bad!!

Maybe some can be salvaged..? Wonder if any private collections may be able to help?

Damn shame - am part way through Murray Walkers Auobiography and its great to learn about the good times the UK bike industry once had! Shame not to be abe to show people the fruits of this....

unlicensed

7,585 posts

267 months

Wednesday 17th September 2003
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damn, that really sucks. some bikes are incredible and is terrible to have them destroyed

jamer

1,329 posts

308 months

Wednesday 17th September 2003
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Terrible news, you will probably find that some of the bikes were also on loan from customers too, they must be gutted.

Lets hope they get some lottery money rather or something rather than it going to the something cr4p as per usual

206xsi

49,206 posts

265 months

Wednesday 17th September 2003
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Having seen the news footage - I'd be worried for the state of the bikes - not too much to salvage!

s2ooz

3,005 posts

301 months

Wednesday 17th September 2003
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thats really sad. Ive been "meaning to go" for years and never got round to it. Ive missed a piece of history there.

the Wiz

5,875 posts

279 months

Wednesday 17th September 2003
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Crying shame it really was a superb Museum, far better than Beaulieu. Most depressing part was that Hall 5 - full of unique machines, record breakers, TT winners etc - took the brunt of the fire. Irreplaceable parts of our history gone forever.

bigtone

1,211 posts

301 months

Wednesday 17th September 2003
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£9m worth of damage.....

Wonder how many of them were one offs? Terrible loss for the country

Apache

39,731 posts

301 months

Wednesday 17th September 2003
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This was a new building WTF happened to their detection and suppression systems? Is a shed full of Tescos bogroll more important than this?

mrs fish

30,018 posts

275 months

Wednesday 17th September 2003
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Motorcycle museum blaze 'caused by discarded cigarette'

A fire which destroyed 400 exhibits at Britain's National Motorcycle Museum is likely to have been started accidentally by a discarded cigarette, according to officials.

Fire investigators believe a member of staff may have thrown away a cigarette outside the building at Bickenhill, near Birmingham, which set fire to a nearby small pile of cardboard boxes, leading to yesterday's massive blaze.

Hundreds of vintage motorbikes, many of them irreplaceable, were completely destroyed in the fire, which caused an estimated £8 million of damage.

Assistant Divisional Officer Dave Glenis, of West Midlands Fire Service, said investigators were confident that the fire had started in boxes containing discarded air conditioning filters.

Mr Glenis said: "These were outside the building, to the side, and it is also an area where staff can go to smoke. We think somebody put out a cigarette which was not completely extinguished, and which may have blown on to these boxes."

Mr Glenis added: "We are not treating the incident as arson at this stage and believe it was purely an accident."





RichB

54,348 posts

301 months

Wednesday 17th September 2003
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Not being a motorcycle fanatic I must say this was a very good museum, I once spent an interesting couple of hours looking around, when I should have been in a boring conference instead! What a shame, seems incredible that it could be allowed to happen really? Rich...

beano500

20,854 posts

292 months

Wednesday 17th September 2003
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Terrible news.

I've visited the Museum several times for conferences, especially during it's early days and it has been a remarkable collection. Gut-wrenching to think of all the hard work gone into that place.

It's difficult to remember, however, that despite being "irreplacable" in many cases they were "only" pieces of machinery - the loss does not compare with loss of life or other tragedy.

If anything the tragedy is that so many beautiful machines were locked up in a museum. Every one that was lovingly made was designed to be ridden and used and for every hundred on static display it is a pleasure to see just one out on the roads tasting the freedom that it deserves.

Just my view - still sorry to see the loss

GregE240

10,857 posts

284 months

Wednesday 17th September 2003
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Very sad - drove past it this morning on my way to work - about half of the complex is destroyed.

Two points come to mind though....as someone mentioned earlier in the thread, surely a half decent sprinkler system would have knocked it on the head? Secondly, I was watching the local news as the story broke, and there only seemed to be about 5 firemen tackling the blaze with the rest giving interviews to massed ranks of journalists. Surely their time would have been better spent elsewhere?

apprentice

1,219 posts

277 months

Wednesday 17th September 2003
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Disastrous news!

Am I the only one questioning the seeming lack of duty of care by the custodians towards such historic machines? True enthusiasts would consider them to be national treasures!

It would appear on first inspection that there should have been afforded a greater degree of protection ....I'd question building design, fire protection systems, etc. (...and ref Mrs Fishs's contribution) I'd also question the location set aside for smokers!

ninjaboy

2,525 posts

267 months

Wednesday 17th September 2003
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I visited last year but didnt take my camera i was going to go again this year it such a shame

apprentice

1,219 posts

277 months

Wednesday 17th September 2003
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One more posting and we'll get the appropriate file icon......!

:getscoatandgoesoutforasmokebehindtheinflammablesshed:

GrahamG

1,091 posts

284 months

Wednesday 17th September 2003
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Really very sad news - the people behind this museum fought for years to get the funding.