Is it me....
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funkyrobot

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18,789 posts

258 months

Thursday 4th September 2008
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..... Or are there a lot of people around who seem to want an accident to happen whilst driving?

I'm talking about the following:

a. Idiots speeding up and closing the gap between themselves and the car infront if you are trying to overtake them.

b. People who speed up when someone pulls out infront of them from a junction (if the car maintained speed there would be plenty of time to safely pull away from the junction).

c. Lorrys that seem to drive near enough down the middle of the road and actually move over the central white lines when you overtake them.

These actions seem deliberate. So whats going on?

pitzzapia

59 posts

222 months

Thursday 4th September 2008
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Nope, its not you. I get that all the time and I cant think of any reason why... Its probably some inferiority complex that these people suffer. Its not a race and its not the end of the world if someone is in front of you. Drives me nuts but I think we will just have to live with it.

Diderot

9,688 posts

222 months

Thursday 4th September 2008
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Can you add stupid van drivers (obviously with only one brain cell which controls their sphincter muscle) who tailgate you and try to barge past even when you're doing 90+ passing slower traffic? I pulled over, not wishing to lose my licence, but this fool kept going, well over a ton, for about 4 miles. If only BiB had been there to catch the fool.

Inappropriate speed in an inappropriate vehicle.



Edited by Diderot on Thursday 4th September 09:44

s.m.h.

5,733 posts

245 months

Thursday 4th September 2008
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Ive notice in towns , when I stick the Scenic on the speed limiter on the limit, even if the road was clear behind within a few moments there will be someone inches behind. Theres some kind of "cant leave the space between the car in front" syndrome that entices drivers to close the gap.
Every day theres one or two drivers where I cant see the bonnet of their car in my rear mirror.

Carlchilli

21 posts

217 months

Thursday 4th September 2008
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Ok so not to make my first post a moan, but can we also add lorry drivers that refuse to pull into the centre lane on a motorway when you're coming in from the slip road...(when there's no one in the way of course).

Gad-Westy

16,624 posts

243 months

Thursday 4th September 2008
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Can we add a few more.

Driving instructors who take their students out to busy junctions in rush hour. Last night I was held up (and I'm not joking) over 10 minutes at one junction because the learner at the front failed to get the car moving everytime the lights went green. Made worse by the fact I was already running late.

Can people learn to use mini-roundabouts?!! The clue is in the title, they're like normal roundabouts but little. You still need to give way to right, yes that's you Mr Blue Scenic man last night. This genius, pulled out in front of me, so that I had to stop so hard I locked the brakes a touch and then just sat there in the middle of the roundabout mouthing off at me.

Buses: Pulling out from a stop is not a right of way, you must still wait for a gap.

When you're next to a large van don't sit in its blindspot for miles. It makes the driver a nervous wreck when they have to change lanes.

On a brighter note, I was following a lorry and a couple of other cars last night with a guy in an Audi right up my chuff. I was sufficiantly far back from everything in front to notice that we were approaching a contr-flow with traffic lights controlling it and our side was on red. The guy in the Audi hadn't noticed it and obviously thought we'd all stopped on a whim. He decided to pull out and overtake but was so close behind me, he actually had to reverse just to swing out. I'm not sure at which point he realised that it was a contra-flow, maybe when he noticed the big lorry heading right for him. It was most amusing seeing him have to reverse back down the road with lorry glued to his front grill.

welshys90

252 posts

227 months

Thursday 4th September 2008
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Gad-Westy said:
Can we add a few more.

Driving instructors who take their students out to busy junctions in rush hour. Last night I was held up (and I'm not joking) over 10 minutes at one junction because the learner at the front failed to get the car moving everytime the lights went green. Made worse by the fact I was already running late.

Can people learn to use mini-roundabouts?!! The clue is in the title, they're like normal roundabouts but little. You still need to give way to right, yes that's you Mr Blue Scenic man last night. This genius, pulled out in front of me, so that I had to stop so hard I locked the brakes a touch and then just sat there in the middle of the roundabout mouthing off at me.

Buses: Pulling out from a stop is not a right of way, you must still wait for a gap. i think you'll find if a bus has signalled to pull out you must give right of way

When you're next to a large van don't sit in its blindspot for miles. It makes the driver a nervous wreck when they have to change lanes.

On a brighter note, I was following a lorry and a couple of other cars last night with a guy in an Audi right up my chuff. I was sufficiantly far back from everything in front to notice that we were approaching a contr-flow with traffic lights controlling it and our side was on red. The guy in the Audi hadn't noticed it and obviously thought we'd all stopped on a whim. He decided to pull out and overtake but was so close behind me, he actually had to reverse just to swing out. I'm not sure at which point he realised that it was a contra-flow, maybe when he noticed the big lorry heading right for him. It was most amusing seeing him have to reverse back down the road with lorry glued to his front grill.

The Black Duke

1,642 posts

223 months

Thursday 4th September 2008
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welshys90 said:
Gad-Westy said:
Can we add a few more.

Driving instructors who take their students out to busy junctions in rush hour. Last night I was held up (and I'm not joking) over 10 minutes at one junction because the learner at the front failed to get the car moving everytime the lights went green. Made worse by the fact I was already running late.

Can people learn to use mini-roundabouts?!! The clue is in the title, they're like normal roundabouts but little. You still need to give way to right, yes that's you Mr Blue Scenic man last night. This genius, pulled out in front of me, so that I had to stop so hard I locked the brakes a touch and then just sat there in the middle of the roundabout mouthing off at me.

Buses: Pulling out from a stop is not a right of way, you must still wait for a gap. i think you'll find if a bus has signalled to pull out you must give right of way

When you're next to a large van don't sit in its blindspot for miles. It makes the driver a nervous wreck when they have to change lanes.

On a brighter note, I was following a lorry and a couple of other cars last night with a guy in an Audi right up my chuff. I was sufficiantly far back from everything in front to notice that we were approaching a contr-flow with traffic lights controlling it and our side was on red. The guy in the Audi hadn't noticed it and obviously thought we'd all stopped on a whim. He decided to pull out and overtake but was so close behind me, he actually had to reverse just to swing out. I'm not sure at which point he realised that it was a contra-flow, maybe when he noticed the big lorry heading right for him. It was most amusing seeing him have to reverse back down the road with lorry glued to his front grill.
The hi-lighted is 100% correct as per the highway code.

Glassman

25,064 posts

245 months

Thursday 4th September 2008
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funkyrobot said:
a. Idiots speeding up and closing the gap between themselves and the car infront if you are trying to overtake them.
yes

Most two lanes into one scenarios have tailbacks due to this problem. Some have perfected the art of either nicking the space in front, or closing it to keep others out.

mat205125

17,790 posts

243 months

Thursday 4th September 2008
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I had an MX5 do the accelerating thing when I passed it this morning. It was cruising at about 45 when I pulled out at 60 and passed. They must have got to 55 ish as I pulled in in front of them. Lots of flashing and beeping, then they slowed back down and became a dot in the mirror.

Why do people do this?

Gad-Westy

16,624 posts

243 months

Thursday 4th September 2008
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The Black Duke said:
welshys90 said:
Gad-Westy said:
Can we add a few more.

Driving instructors who take their students out to busy junctions in rush hour. Last night I was held up (and I'm not joking) over 10 minutes at one junction because the learner at the front failed to get the car moving everytime the lights went green. Made worse by the fact I was already running late.

Can people learn to use mini-roundabouts?!! The clue is in the title, they're like normal roundabouts but little. You still need to give way to right, yes that's you Mr Blue Scenic man last night. This genius, pulled out in front of me, so that I had to stop so hard I locked the brakes a touch and then just sat there in the middle of the roundabout mouthing off at me.

Buses: Pulling out from a stop is not a right of way, you must still wait for a gap. i think you'll find if a bus has signalled to pull out you must give right of way

When you're next to a large van don't sit in its blindspot for miles. It makes the driver a nervous wreck when they have to change lanes.

On a brighter note, I was following a lorry and a couple of other cars last night with a guy in an Audi right up my chuff. I was sufficiantly far back from everything in front to notice that we were approaching a contr-flow with traffic lights controlling it and our side was on red. The guy in the Audi hadn't noticed it and obviously thought we'd all stopped on a whim. He decided to pull out and overtake but was so close behind me, he actually had to reverse just to swing out. I'm not sure at which point he realised that it was a contra-flow, maybe when he noticed the big lorry heading right for him. It was most amusing seeing him have to reverse back down the road with lorry glued to his front grill.
The hi-lighted is 100% correct as per the highway code.
Just for clarity, I and another car were stationery alongside said bus when he pulled out. Hornage prevented an insurance claim.

mat205125

17,790 posts

243 months

Thursday 4th September 2008
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welshys90 said:
Gad-Westy said:
Buses: Pulling out from a stop is not a right of way, you must still wait for a gap. i think you'll find if a bus has signalled to pull out you must give right of way
Yes .... if it is safe to do so. The trouble is that buses hit the indicator and accelerator in as a single operation, regardless of whether you are half way past them, or approaching quickly behind.

OJ

14,209 posts

258 months

Thursday 4th September 2008
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The Black Duke said:
Buses: Pulling out from a stop is not a right of way, you must still wait for a gap. i think you'll find if a bus has signalled to pull out you must give right of way
Hasn't stopped one of them from quoting that particular line of the highway code after the muppet simultaneously indicated and pulled out while I was driving literally half way past him, resulting in much horn blasting and swerving. I asked him where it stated that drivers should summon their vehicles into the non-existence of the ether when some dcensoredkhead bus driver doesn't bother to look in his mirror.

Thankfully nothing was coming the other way, the irony is I'd slowed right down before I got to him in case he wanted to pull out

OJ

14,209 posts

258 months

Thursday 4th September 2008
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Hmm! Seems I'm not alone! biggrin

Gad-Westy

16,624 posts

243 months

Thursday 4th September 2008
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Glassman said:
funkyrobot said:
a. Idiots speeding up and closing the gap between themselves and the car infront if you are trying to overtake them.
yes

Most two lanes into one scenarios have tailbacks due to this problem. Some have perfected the art of either nicking the space in front, or closing it to keep others out.
I don't understand why we can;t use the continental zip-merge where two lanes become one lane in the middle if that makes sense and neither lane has a perceived priority. Seems to work ok in France.

Hyperion

16,952 posts

230 months

Thursday 4th September 2008
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Driving in the UK is just crap. Get used to it. Drive properly and completely ignore anyone venting their anger at you.

topless_mx5

2,763 posts

248 months

Thursday 4th September 2008
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Carlchilli said:
Ok so not to make my first post a moan, but can we also add lorry drivers that refuse to pull into the centre lane on a motorway when you're coming in from the slip road...(when there's no one in the way of course).
I can sort of understand why they don't change lanes. It is a lot more difficult for them to change lanes than a car. If they changed lane, then they would have to find a way back into the first lane. Since they are usually slower than the joining cars, the joining cars would either have to undertake the lorry, or would have to slow down to let it back into the first lane.

Also, in a car you can easily adjust your speed to enable you to pull out either in front of behind the lorry, especially as the first lane is mainly empty.

s.m.h.

5,733 posts

245 months

Thursday 4th September 2008
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Carlchilli said:
Ok so not to make my first post a moan, but can we also add lorry drivers that refuse to pull into the centre lane on a motorway when you're coming in from the slip road...(when there's no one in the way of course).
Now this pisses me right off.
I do quite a bit of trailer towing and being restricted to 60mph and not allowed into the outside lane, it leaves the inner 2 on the motorway.

I may well be working to keep the speed, making sure the trailers ok etc and then to have to ensure Ive got room in the next lane to let someone off the sliproad? anything else???
As I understood it, the driver entering the motorway gives way to the vehicles there already. You match their speed and enter gaps already there. For trucks etc to move over because you meet them at exactly the same point is selfish driving. Plus he has probably 37 tonnes moke to squash you with....

Gad-Westy

16,624 posts

243 months

Thursday 4th September 2008
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s.m.h. said:
Carlchilli said:
Ok so not to make my first post a moan, but can we also add lorry drivers that refuse to pull into the centre lane on a motorway when you're coming in from the slip road...(when there's no one in the way of course).
Now this pisses me right off.
I do quite a bit of trailer towing and being restricted to 60mph and not allowed into the outside lane, it leaves the inner 2 on the motorway.

I may well be working to keep the speed, making sure the trailers ok etc and then to have to ensure Ive got room in the next lane to let someone off the sliproad? anything else???
As I understood it, the driver entering the motorway gives way to the vehicles there already. You match their speed and enter gaps already there. For trucks etc to move over because you meet them at exactly the same point is selfish driving. Plus he has probably 37 tonnes moke to squash you with....
I'm inclined to agree. Everytime a Lorry etc.. has to change lane there is an element of risk that they have not spotted something along side them. Far safer for a car to adjust their motorway entry appropriately.

johnzo

526 posts

297 months

Thursday 4th September 2008
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OK, here comes another one ... in a line of slow traffic and someone (a) coming the other way wants to turn right, why not just open a gap, let him through, you are in exactly the same position re the car in front (b) someone coming out the side road turning right across slow moving traffic, same thing, leave a gap for him to pull out. I am amazed how people will close gaps to PREVENT anyone else moving. Sheeesh, lighten-up and lets be friends!