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Just a puzzling thought really, up our way we have a lot of off road venues and of course at the weekend everyone is out having a go.
One thing I just could get my head round was some guys had Land Rover Defenders like this one below
Now I know that its not my car / truck and they can do what they like but.......
........they were only using them to tow trailers with scabby Discoverys on, the Defenders were absolutely concours not a speck of mud on them at all, yet they had spotlights, winches, snorkels and other stuff like shovels attached to the bonnet. It just made me think that why bother having the Disco, surely you would want to use the mega high spec defender and actually get some use out of it, all they do is use them as tow cars :S
Weird.
(Probably not as weird as posting on PH about it, but weird nonetheless)
One thing I just could get my head round was some guys had Land Rover Defenders like this one below
Now I know that its not my car / truck and they can do what they like but.......
........they were only using them to tow trailers with scabby Discoverys on, the Defenders were absolutely concours not a speck of mud on them at all, yet they had spotlights, winches, snorkels and other stuff like shovels attached to the bonnet. It just made me think that why bother having the Disco, surely you would want to use the mega high spec defender and actually get some use out of it, all they do is use them as tow cars :S
Weird.
(Probably not as weird as posting on PH about it, but weird nonetheless)
It's very simple - Defenders are very expensive used, Discoverys are very cheap, therefore they off-road a cheap Disco and have a nice Defender as their everyday car which loses far less value than a Disco would.
Personally I hate trailer queens and always drove my 90 V8 to events, went everywhere the trailer queens did and then drove home!
Personally I hate trailer queens and always drove my 90 V8 to events, went everywhere the trailer queens did and then drove home!
Bushmaster said:
Over here all that extra kit would actually come in useful. But for serious terrain the bit it is attached too really should be a Toyota!
You'd have to attach a hell of a lot of kit to get your Prado over terrain a stock 90 can manage. You'd certainly have to remove those side-steps. . . . . . BigLepton said:
Bushmaster said:
Over here all that extra kit would actually come in useful. But for serious terrain the bit it is attached too really should be a Toyota!
You'd have to attach a hell of a lot of kit to get your Prado over terrain a stock 90 can manage. You'd certainly have to remove those side-steps. . . . . . 
Olf said:
Always used to be that a 100" chassis was better than a 90 or 110. That's what ranger rovers were always popular as off road trialers and I presume why discos have taken on the mantle.
I think it was as much down to the economics as anything else. Back in the 80s when 90s & 110s were new(ish) the only affordable way for a lot of people to get a coil sprung Land Rover was to build one on a Range Rover chassis. Few people do this now because coil sprung LRs are affordable and old Discoverys are as cheap as chips, so whats the point? I think a 90 would be better than a 100" chassis due to the shorter wheelbase giving a better break over ramp angle.BruceV8 said:
Olf said:
Always used to be that a 100" chassis was better than a 90 or 110. That's what ranger rovers were always popular as off road trialers and I presume why discos have taken on the mantle.
I think it was as much down to the economics as anything else. Back in the 80s when 90s & 110s were new(ish) the only affordable way for a lot of people to get a coil sprung Land Rover was to build one on a Range Rover chassis. Few people do this now because coil sprung LRs are affordable and old Discoverys are as cheap as chips, so whats the point? I think a 90 would be better than a 100" chassis due to the shorter wheelbase giving a better break over ramp angle."The 100 inch chassis is considered the most stable length for off road rallying whilst maintaining good manoeuverability."
http://www.4allfours.co.uk/supercharged.htm
Olf said:
BruceV8 said:
Olf said:
Always used to be that a 100" chassis was better than a 90 or 110. That's what ranger rovers were always popular as off road trialers and I presume why discos have taken on the mantle.
I think it was as much down to the economics as anything else. Back in the 80s when 90s & 110s were new(ish) the only affordable way for a lot of people to get a coil sprung Land Rover was to build one on a Range Rover chassis. Few people do this now because coil sprung LRs are affordable and old Discoverys are as cheap as chips, so whats the point? I think a 90 would be better than a 100" chassis due to the shorter wheelbase giving a better break over ramp angle."The 100 inch chassis is considered the most stable length for off road rallying whilst maintaining good manoeuverability."
http://www.4allfours.co.uk/supercharged.htm
I like leaf sprung Land Rovers anyway. Coil springs? Comfort? Pah - thats for softies! BruceV8 said:
Olf said:
BruceV8 said:
Olf said:
Always used to be that a 100" chassis was better than a 90 or 110. That's what ranger rovers were always popular as off road trialers and I presume why discos have taken on the mantle.
I think it was as much down to the economics as anything else. Back in the 80s when 90s & 110s were new(ish) the only affordable way for a lot of people to get a coil sprung Land Rover was to build one on a Range Rover chassis. Few people do this now because coil sprung LRs are affordable and old Discoverys are as cheap as chips, so whats the point? I think a 90 would be better than a 100" chassis due to the shorter wheelbase giving a better break over ramp angle."The 100 inch chassis is considered the most stable length for off road rallying whilst maintaining good manoeuverability."
http://www.4allfours.co.uk/supercharged.htm
I like leaf sprung Land Rovers anyway. Coil springs? Comfort? Pah - thats for softies! 
The first time I drove in over a year was with some Landrover nutter friends the other week. Luckily one of them has an uncle who owns a substantial piece of fell near, including a river bed and quarry, near where we live.
I still cannot believe where and how those Land Rovers would go. Driving along the rocky-as-hell riverbed as my first driving experience in a long time was interesting, to say the least.
I still cannot believe where and how those Land Rovers would go. Driving along the rocky-as-hell riverbed as my first driving experience in a long time was interesting, to say the least.
GKP said:
Leaf springs? Coil springs? What are these bent bits of metal of which you speak?
I give you the gospel accordingto OLLR (Old Leaf sprung Land-rovers):http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/daveslandyandngstuff/
A Boingy is a coil sprung Land Rover.
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