8k-family car needed
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thebullettrain

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1,069 posts

269 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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With the addition of a mini bullet - I am looking at a new car. Ideally it will be a small SUV or an estate. The options include a Freelander 2.0 HSE TD4-which I can pick up a 21k mileage 2005 model for around 7.5k.

Any thoughts on this or some alternatives would be appreciated.

Xenocide

4,286 posts

238 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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You don't need a sodding SUV.

Get an diesel Audi estate. With the change get a Caterham or something.

Andy Zarse

10,870 posts

277 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Subaru Forester Turbo 2.5XT with the Prodrive pack. 280bhp on an Impreza chassis, 0-60 in under 6 secs, 150mph top speed, 28mpg easy; when it came out in '05 Clarkson called it the best car in the world. There must be some sub-£8k examples by now.

Mars

10,121 posts

244 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Do you really think you'd get 28mpg out of one of those with the Prodrive pack installed? I don't think they do that much as standard.

Still, it's a superb motor.

thebullettrain

Original Poster:

1,069 posts

269 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Lol, 8k wouldn't buy much of an Audi. I did think of the Subaru but the mpg is offputting and I need something a bit more economical for my trips up north.

Xenocide

4,286 posts

238 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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thebullettrain said:
Lol, 8k wouldn't buy much of an Audi. I did think of the Subaru but the mpg is offputting and I need something a bit more economical for my trips up north.
You don't need a brand new one wink

Blukoo

3,812 posts

227 months

The Riddler

6,565 posts

227 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Volvo V70 D5, Everything you need and more, Some decent examples kicking around now if you dont mind higher mileage. Don't forget volvo's can go to the moon and back, and 100k is only just run in wink

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/728309.htm

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/743963.htm

Stu R

21,648 posts

245 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Xenocide said:
You don't need a sodding SUV.

Get an diesel Audi estate. With the change get a Caterham or something.
He never said he did, thankfully he can buy whatever the chuff he wants.

I'm really beginning to loathe this constant anti-4x4 sentiment on here, it's one rung of the ladder above suggesting we all buy whatever econoboxes are in fashion with the yoghurt knitters.

Xenocide

4,286 posts

238 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Stu R said:
Xenocide said:
You don't need a sodding SUV.

Get an diesel Audi estate. With the change get a Caterham or something.
He never said he did, thankfully he can buy whatever the chuff he wants.

I'm really beginning to loathe this constant anti-4x4 sentiment on here, it's one rung of the ladder above suggesting we all buy whatever econoboxes are in fashion with the yoghurt knitters.
He says
bloke said:
Ideally it will be a small SUV or an estate.
Don't you think it's a bit over the top to jump on your moral high horse the moment someone doesn't run with the idea of getting a "SUV" for a couple of kids? Piss off.

eharding

14,648 posts

314 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Xenocide said:
Don't you think it's a bit over the top to jump on your moral high horse the moment someone doesn't run with the idea of getting a "SUV" for a couple of kids? Piss off.
Well said...the OP should put the kids up for adoption...in my experience they make a dreadful mess of the leather in the back of the Rangie, kicking the back of the seats in muddy minature wellies etc..

Stu R

21,648 posts

245 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Xenocide said:
Don't you think it's a bit over the top to jump on your moral high horse the moment someone doesn't run with the idea of getting a "SUV" for a couple of kids? Piss off.
I'm not jumping on anything, apologies if it seemed that was the case or was entirely directed at you, perhaps I could have worded it better.
If you'd prefer I'll delete my post as frankly I'm not one for throwing insults around a forum with people I've no reason to argue with.

s3fella

10,524 posts

217 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Been through this dilema recently. SUVs etc, just dont work as all round family cars, just too small in the boot area, and most pretty nasty to drive. The high up view is nice sometimes, but too comrpomised as a proper family wagon.

I agree about the estate car approach, big boots, drive like a car, lots of kit on the top range ones.

I tested Audis (A4 too small) A6 nice, but pricey for a spec'd one, E class Mercs, (nice, but potentially pricey on parts and repairs), Passat, nice, coming down in price, but diesel si only sensible option and they are still too much) and ended up with a (dont laugh, its truly blinding) Mondeo Ghia X estate TDCI!
it was a toss up between this and a 55 plate Vectra Estate, which was a surprisingly good car and a lot better than the old ones and image suggests. But the mondeo is truly HUGE inside, loadspace is better than the E class and all the Volvos and Beemers I lookes at. Amazing stock spec, we got the factory fitted \DVD system and 18 inch alloys on ours, 04 plate, 65k miles, leather etc for £6400 in April, no probs and 12k miles on now! An equivalent spec Audi would have cost nearer 11k I reckon, so a true bargain and a hoot to drive on Toyo Rs and Bluefin installed!! Not quite as good as a PD Passat on juice, but pretty good for a big top spec'd car, 43mpg average actual, (dont beleive the gauge!).

Any of the big estates will suit you well as a proper family car. The Zafira is close to being good as a family car, and is great for school runs, odd trips out, but try loading it up for a weekend away or a holiday in France, with all the baby gear, and you will soon find its weaknesses! !MInd you wes till overfilled the Mondy on our trip to Switzerland in August, but it was 2 weeks and we took far too much!!
As a massive VW Audi fan, I was pained to find the Mondeo and Latest vectra so damned good to be honest. It made me wonder how much a badge is really worth!

Stu R

21,648 posts

245 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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I'm smoking round in a new freelander 2 at the minute (diesel). I must say I'm very surprised at how good it is to drive. It's got loads of poke where it's needed, the interior is a lovely place to be, steering feels very sharp and it's certainly not short of room.

Couldn't believe how car like it felt I suppose, and I certainly think they've got their place for family cars, plenty of room in the back, loads of boot space and pretty economical despite me giving it beans whenever the chance arises.

s3fella

10,524 posts

217 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Oh we tested many proper SUVs (weekend test drives!), Toe rag, (disappointing all round IMO) Cayenne S (flip me what an amazing vehicle, defied physincs and went like hell but horrifc running costs), NIssan X Trail, (Real nice and practical but rear headroom stragely crap) and Nissan Pathfinder (brilliant looking thing, mahoosive inside and very practical interior, but drove like a tractor and horrid on juice for a diesel)I think I'd plump for the pathfinder! But Mondeo is better more practical and nicer daily driver.

I am tempted by an 04 Cayenne S thought, truly bonkers vehicle for c16k now.....!!

Stu R

21,648 posts

245 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Same here mate, I think you must have followed me around the dealerships as we looked at the same models in pretty much that order hehe The pathfinder I loved but it just had something about it I didn't get on with, and the turning circle yikes Actually had a deposit on an X-trail but bailed out and went to landy, so pleased, especially as the finance plan had a guarenteed value at the end of the term which is way above what it looks like it's likely to be worth in the current climate.

The cayennes are fabulous if you can get past the looks and vulgarity, I can, and a turbo will be joining the fleet soon as a support vehicle, rude not to at the price they fetch, though I've also been tempted by a year old jag posted recently on here that looks like a hundred grand but is infact only 20 hehe

s3fella

10,524 posts

217 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Yep, Cayenne S with sports suspension was an outrageous tool tbh!

The Pathfinder is a bargain and great looking, very practical, but very agricultural to boot. I'd have one for local buzzing about as it's fun, but as a main car, too mcuh to live with.

Disco 3 is excellent by all accounts, but pricey when I was looking.

When the sprogelt came, the cash went down, so we decided to penny pinch a bit in the end!! Honestly delighted with the Mundaino though! For the cash, it is utterly brilliant.

moleamol

15,887 posts

293 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Hired a Focus C-Max when we went to Spain, 4 adults, one kid and still plenty of space in the boot. It was surprisingly good to drive. The 1.6 was gutless though with us all in.

Don

28,378 posts

314 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Get yourself to Trade-Sales.

You can have yourself a Vauxhall Vectra Estate for £7K with two years manufacturer's warranty left on it just a year old. If you are prepared to watch and wait you might manage to find an Elite with all the toys - or you might prefer to save a couple of hundred quid and get an SRi.

These cars were more than twice the money a year ago. It will drive fine for four or five years and you'll get £1500 quid back when you sell it on as a runner.

I worked out on my last one it had cost me a fiver a day in depreciation. I probably spend another £1 on servicing and repairs.

Now that's cheap motoring. OK - it's not Mr PODs bangernomics - but it's cheap for a smart looking car that doesn't look out of place in the Company car park and that no-one will notice on sales calls.

Means you can spend more on the toys!

Baby Huey

4,881 posts

229 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Stu R said:
I'm smoking round in a new freelander 2 at the minute (diesel). I must say I'm very surprised at how good it is to drive. It's got loads of poke where it's needed, the interior is a lovely place to be, steering feels very sharp and it's certainly not short of room.

Couldn't believe how car like it felt I suppose, and I certainly think they've got their place for family cars, plenty of room in the back, loads of boot space and pretty economical despite me giving it beans whenever the chance arises.
If you like it because it feels like a car, why not buy a car in the first place?smile

How about a Saab 93 estate.