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Loaded1me

Original Poster:

189 posts

223 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20081208/tuk-kids-died-...

After this terrible accident, we'll all be in trouble for any mods. What do you think?

Mc Lovin

5,588 posts

250 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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"This crash happened because he was driving dangerously"

and

"he also failed to carry out a number of repairs"

Sums it up really, other than his brakes which where a joke.

That really is sad though, poor little nippers, i cant imagine what the emergency services where greeted with when they arrived, i know they are trained and know what to expect but comething like that is going to haunt you.

Marc W

3,782 posts

240 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Loaded1me said:
After this terrible accident, we'll all be in trouble for any mods. What do you think?
No, Just ones that have been badly carried out.

Edited by Marc W on Monday 8th December 15:27

dibbers006

14,640 posts

247 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Loaded1me said:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20081208/tuk-kids-died-...

After this terrible accident, we'll all be in trouble for any mods. What do you think?
Sounds like a deathtrap car. No need to panic on mass. Poorly maintained and idiotically 'modified.'

Tragic, RIP.

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illmonkey

19,815 posts

227 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Loaded1me said:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20081208/tuk-kids-died-...

After this terrible accident, we'll all be in trouble for any mods. What do you think?
I bloody hope not. Not every modified car has a nutter behind the wheel..

Mr Spencer said the drivers of the vehicles had seen the Land Rover speed past them just before the fateful crash.
Mr Spencer said the calliper on the offside front brake was bigger than the one on the nearside front brake and this caused the car to slew when the driver hit the brakes
He continued: "A number of the modifications were ill-judged, many were incompetently carried out and he also failed to carry out a number of repairs. All of that rendered this vehicle dangerous and unroadworthy.

RIP.

Edited by illmonkey on Monday 8th December 15:28

MrMoonyMan

2,699 posts

240 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Different size calipers on the front?

A LandRover Defender overtaking people on the road?

It's all going in one direction really. Very very sad.

Is it going to change anything? - No, probably not.

Should it change anything? No. probably not.

Adrian W

15,496 posts

257 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Whatever he did his children died and he has to live with it. However, they died because he crshed into a river and they drowned, not because something fell off the car, they were all just very very unlucky. I'm sure the press etc could build a case against most of us given enough time. We don't know the details and maybe we shouldn't be too judgmental.

Mr Whippy

32,453 posts

270 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Well, mods aside, it wouldn't have passed any current MOT so that is where the fault is in my view, for the road worthiness concerns at least.

You can have a perfectly maintained standard car with a good MOT get a sticky caliper and result in variable pulling when braking hard, so I'd ignore the mods at all personally. He was driving badly, and had failed to correct a clearly evident undesireable handling trait.

Idiot!

welshbikerduck

1,448 posts

218 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Adrian W said:
Whatever he did his children died and he has to live with it. However, they died because he crshed into a river and they drowned, not because something fell off the car, they were all just very very unlucky. I'm sure the press etc could build a case against most of us given enough time. We don't know the details and maybe we shouldn't be too judgmental.
I usually agree with that thinking, but driving a car full of kids with mismatched brakes is asking for trouble. Overtaking (read driving fast) really is completely irresponsible.

I am sure the guy now has a lot of regrets and will carry this with him always, but it doesn't change the fact 4 innocent kiddies paid with their lives due to someone elses negligence. Absolute tradgedy for everyone concerned.

LuS1fer

43,508 posts

274 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Dangerous driving can be proved either by the way in which the car is driven or by driving it knowing it is in a dangerous condition.

RobCrezz

7,892 posts

237 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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I would call that bodged rather than modified.

Loaded1me

Original Poster:

189 posts

223 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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There's no doubt the work he did was bodged, but I reckon the Daily Wail "et al" will use this as another way to beat up on motorists! Speed caused by "modifying" a car will soon be met with the death penalty under Gordo..

Garlick

40,601 posts

269 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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The word 'modified' just reminds me of bodykitted Corsas in a carpark outside a closed DFS.

As someone has already said- this was a bodged wreck more than modified.

RIP frown

redgriff500

28,982 posts

292 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Definately bodged rather than modified.

Never seen the point in taking these types of cases to court, what could you possibly do to him to make him feel worse than he already does, after killing his own kids.





Celt

1,264 posts

221 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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I dont think the guy deserves any punishment handed out from the courts. Hes paid enough of a price. Really struggle to even begin to think about the guilt that guy will live with for the rest of his life.

cantthinkofone

75 posts

248 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f37/fellas-court-677...


Perhaps the most backward forum of all time this one, but "VIVNAP"'s comments are astounding. Apparently they've been passed on to friends of the family who are keen to find him and give him a Christmas present of his own. I wish them well.


-crookedtail-

1,593 posts

219 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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cantthinkofone said:
http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f37/fellas-court-677...


Perhaps the most backward forum of all time this one, but "VIVNAP"'s comments are astounding. Apparently they've been passed on to friends of the family who are keen to find him and give him a Christmas present of his own. I wish them well.
The Mad Hat Man on the landy forum said:
dint that artoicle (or anuvva) say thaty there were diff size disks across the front
Oh dear and we thought we had chav text problems hehe

Mr POD

5,153 posts

221 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Celt said:
I dont think the guy deserves any punishment handed out from the courts. Hes paid enough of a price. Really struggle to even begin to think about the guilt that guy will live with for the rest of his life.
Oh I think prison is a good idea after you read :

yahoo said:
The calliper (spelling?)on the offside front brake was bigger than the one on the nearside front brake and this caused the car to slew when the driver hit the brakes. He added that the brake pedal was also worn and that it took "excessive travel" when the driver hit the brakes for the car to stop.
That's a hell of a school boy error.

Nolar Dog

8,786 posts

224 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Why shouldn't the guy face prison?

If it were a chavvy kid in a snotty Saxo that had wiped out 4 of his mates, he'd have to live with the guilt.

He'd also (quite rightly) go to prison. And would be hung, drawn and quartered by most of PH.
Because it's a family (well, was a family) man in a LR it's different somehow?

redgriff500

28,982 posts

292 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Mates are one thing...

Your own kids are a whole different ball game.

If the option was to rescue my 18mth daughter or all my mates, its no contest and I'd expect them to say the same about their kids.