Am I driving uninsured?
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308mate

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13,758 posts

251 months

Tuesday 30th December 2008
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So Im sat at home messing around with www.askmid.com (I may or may not have been running the Polski's downstairs stbox beemer plate, in a bid to get a bargaining chip next time their music was too loud) and when I stuck my own no. plate in, it says Im not insured!!

Rang the boss, he said everything is fine as its registered as part of our fleet policy. But Im sure in the past Ive run my own plate and its been recognised (same plate), so why isnt it now?

Anyone know anything else about how this works?

Concerned, of Dorset.

Tony*T3

20,911 posts

276 months

Tuesday 30th December 2008
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They probably have a group insurance policy that covers 'all cars' and deosnt specifically have to name each and every one.

Roo.

11,504 posts

236 months

Tuesday 30th December 2008
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Tony*T3 said:
They probably have a group insurance policy that covers 'all cars' and deosnt specifically have to name each and every one.
True, but motor dealers (not sure what 308 does for a living) are still supposed to supply details of all cars being used.

Mike400

1,026 posts

260 months

Tuesday 30th December 2008
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Tony*T3 said:
They probably have a group insurance policy that covers 'all cars' and deosnt specifically have to name each and every one.
+1, thats the way my wife's last company ran their fleet - no one had their own company car, there was a pool of Golf's you lifted as and when you needed. Was handy when she had one over the weekend as they turned a blind eye to how much diesel she used wink

They just had one big floating policy they added all the employees names to.

kambites

71,458 posts

250 months

Tuesday 30th December 2008
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You must be able to get a copy of the documentation if you request it. You'd need to be able to if you were ever given a producer for having a headlight out or something.

philthy

4,697 posts

269 months

Tuesday 30th December 2008
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Tony*T3 said:
They probably have a group insurance policy that covers 'all cars' and deosnt specifically have to name each and every one.
The firm I used to work for had that, but did need notifying if the vehicle was being kept longer than 28 days IIRC?

To the OP, ask the boss for a copy of the insurance certificate. I had to when I got stopped while working for the post office. It read something along the lines of:

Persons entitled to drive
Any person in the employ, or acting on behalf of, or under the instruction of any employee of the royal mail or its partners.

Vehicles covered
Any vehicle belonging to, or being lent,rented,borrowed or undertaking any form of work, or acting on the instruction of etc etc.

The plod I produced it to, had a laugh, and suggested it covered just about most people in the world if stretched hehe

NDA

25,596 posts

254 months

Tuesday 30th December 2008
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I'm guessing, but it sounds like the transfer of your private plate to the company owned vehicle (?) has not been completed successfully.

I have a couple of number plates on retention (i.e. not on a vehicle at the moment) and I've just run those through that website and they come up (correctly) as not insured.

You need to check the V5 document for your car - or have your fleet person check it.


Roo.

11,504 posts

236 months

Tuesday 30th December 2008
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I've just run my company car through MID and it comes up as insured. All companies that run fleets are meant to inform their insurers of the specific registration numbers.

308mate

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13,758 posts

251 months

Tuesday 30th December 2008
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Thanks chaps. The gist seems to be that Im ok then I would say(?)

Im a sales rep (well, it IS a Mondeo) but we do have a pool of vehicles all on one policy.

I do have an insurance document, but I think its at work.

Although I do get the feeling that pleading ignorance cause the boss says Im in the clear, wont hold much water at the roadside.

rolleyes

NDA

25,596 posts

254 months

Tuesday 30th December 2008
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308mate said:
Thanks chaps. The gist seems to be that Im ok then I would say(?)

Im a sales rep (well, it IS a Mondeo) but we do have a pool of vehicles all on one policy.

I do have an insurance document, but I think its at work.

Although I do get the feeling that pleading ignorance cause the boss says Im in the clear, wont hold much water at the roadside.

rolleyes
It won't.

Does it have your own plate on it? If it has the company/original plate on it, you should be insured under the group policy.

markmullen

15,877 posts

263 months

Tuesday 30th December 2008
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I just checked one of our fleet of courtesy cars (leased) which wasn't on.

I do know however our motor trade insurance covers anyone for any vehicle (apart from a weird exclusion for steamrollers)

Scraggles

7,619 posts

253 months

Tuesday 30th December 2008
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got some document that can download from the intranet that covers all company cars, seems the easiset thing to do

elanfan

5,527 posts

256 months

Tuesday 30th December 2008
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The database only covers about 95% of insured vehicles - thats why

ian_c_uk

1,451 posts

232 months

Tuesday 30th December 2008
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Just checked mine, as it's on a fleet policy, thankfully comes up insured.

It also comes up as a minibus laugh

Vehicle Make/Model: MINI COOPER
Vehicle type: COACH/MINIBUS

Bus lanes here I come!!




Edited by ian_c_uk on Tuesday 30th December 13:45

sniff diesel

13,125 posts

241 months

Tuesday 30th December 2008
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elanfan said:
The database only covers about 95% of insured vehicles - thats why
They can be very slow to update too so I wouldn't worry about it.

warp9

1,632 posts

226 months

Tuesday 30th December 2008
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Erm. No. Technically you may be insured and the insurance company would honour any incident, but you are likely to be pulled by the rozzers.

On any 'group' insurance policy (e.g. motor trade or fleet) you have up to 14 days to inform your insurance company of any vehicle in your posession. The only exceptions are if the vehicle is declared SORN or not in your posession for more than 14 days.

Insurance companies have 5 days to inform the MID of any updates (in reality they do it within 2 days) and the MID update the database daily.

If your vehicle is not on there, get in touch with your insurer immediately as the police also use this database.

the snowman

163 posts

219 months

Tuesday 30th December 2008
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markmullen said:
I just checked one of our fleet of courtesy cars (leased) which wasn't on.

I do know however our motor trade insurance covers anyone for any vehicle (apart from a weird exclusion for steamrollers)
True, however, it is a requirement that vehicles which are to be retained for more than 14 days be notified to the MID for compliance purposes. Therefore the certificate will not be vehicle specific, same as Motor fleet insurance. The wording will probably state: Any vehicle in the custody or control of the insured blah, blah, blah...

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 30th December 2008
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You want to get this sorted before an ANPR check pulls you and you end up in the cells whilst things get sorted out.
We live in a database, "computer says no" world, so get the info on the database in a state that will inconvenience you the least.