Super Unleaded
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Tim3003

Original Poster:

34 posts

220 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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I've just bought a Golf Mk4 V6 4Motion, and have yet to try it with Super unleaded. Any views on whether it is worth paying extra for Super unleaded? Ie do you get more performance or mpg?

Tim

scotty_d

6,795 posts

216 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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I run the shell v-power and can achive around 30miles more out a tank that of BP ultimate i dont notice any performance diffrence this is in a 4.0l TVR

hman

7,497 posts

216 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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I use v-power or tesco's 99 ron.

Anything else is a waste of money as they seem to charge the same amount for super (97-98 ron) as they do v-power/Tesco's 99ron.

My car gets 30mpg on v-power/tesco's, compared to 25-27mpg on 95 ron (standard fuel) and also runs smoother, picks up sharper etc.

If you compare the percentage increases in mpg against the percentage increase in cost from 95-99ron you can see that it makes no sense for me to run anything else.

I really only use 95 ron if i cant get v-power or 99 ron tescos, and even then i only fill what i need for the journey so i can get back on the good stuff asap.

HTH.


Stuart_D

47 posts

205 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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Unless you have over 300bhp it will not make the slightest difference. Anyone who disagrees is dilusional. This has been proved and it is a fact.

OllieWinchester

5,694 posts

214 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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Stuart_D said:
Unless you have over 300bhp it will not make the slightest difference. Anyone who disagrees is dilusional. This has been proved and it is a fact.
Its got f*ck all to do with how much power you have, more to do with whether or not your engine can ascertain and make the most of the extra octane.

danrc

2,797 posts

232 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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Probably just the placebo effect but when i put Vpower in the Bora (2.3 V5) the engine seemed to run at lot smoother.


Strike_J

6,692 posts

206 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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From what I've heard, Shell V power contains cleaning compounds which are good for your engine and contains more than its competitors, however not every car will receive a performance boost. Cars that are tuned to run on the higher octane fuel will notice a difference.

I fill up with V power now and then due to its cleaning properties and for the most part run normal petrol. The garage is out of the way for me so to get it every time would be an inconvenience. I personally don't find the car anymore responsive but thats not to say it isn't. In any car tuned to use normal petrol, the performance gains will be minimal.

OllieWinchester

5,694 posts

214 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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Strike_J said:
From what I've heard, Shell V power contains cleaning compounds which are good for your engine and contains more than its competitors, however not every car will receive a performance boost. Cars that are tuned to run on the higher octane fuel will notice a difference.

I fill up with V power now and then due to its cleaning properties and for the most part run normal petrol. The garage is out of the way for me so to get it every time would be an inconvenience. I personally don't find the car anymore responsive but thats not to say it isn't. In any car tuned to use normal petrol, the performance gains will be minimal.
Yeah, that'll be off the advert for erm, Shell V-power then.

Lefty Guns

19,359 posts

224 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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Didn't Evo test the whole super unleaded thing a while ago and found they got a stonking power increase on a golf gti and next to f-all on an M5?

chevronb37

6,472 posts

208 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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I usually run V-Power, but got superb mileage recently on Total Excellium.

Tim3003

Original Poster:

34 posts

220 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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Thanks guys. I will try the Tesco and or V-Power and see what the effect is.

Tim

garycat

5,084 posts

232 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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OllieWinchester said:
Its got f*ck all to do with how much power you have, more to do with whether or not your engine can ascertain and make the most of the extra octane.
+1

It really depends on the engine's ECU. Turbo engines have more complex advance/knock sensors to control boost pressure and so can make use of the extra octane. N/A engines may run a little better but the %age increase in power will be much less.

MrMoonyMan

2,612 posts

233 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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Stuart_D said:
Unless you have over 300bhp it will not make the slightest difference. Anyone who disagrees is dilusional. This has been proved and it is a fact.
Erm, yes - that's right, nice one. rolleyes

Uhura_Fighter

7,018 posts

205 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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Tim3003 said:
I've just bought a Golf Mk4 V6 4Motion, and have yet to try it with Super unleaded. Any views on whether it is worth paying extra for Super unleaded? Ie do you get more performance or mpg?

Tim
I cant find a better link but it was on 5th gear recently (err well on Dave not 5)

http://www.smartmania.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?...



Edited by Uhura_Fighter on Tuesday 3rd February 11:45

RobCrezz

7,892 posts

230 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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Stuart_D said:
Unless you have over 300bhp it will not make the slightest difference. Anyone who disagrees is dilusional. This has been proved and it is a fact.
You are a moron, its not a fact. Its got nothing to do with bhp, it makes a difference if your ECU is clever enough and has the appropriate sensors to take advantage of the higher octane by altering the igniton timing and/or turbo boost etc.

Lefty Guns

19,359 posts

224 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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I used to always run my VXT on super, not because it seemed to produce much more power (it didn't) but because it smoothed out a flat spot at around 3000rpm and it usually added 20 or 30 miles to the dismal range of the thing.

OJ

14,185 posts

250 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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Just have a look in the manual to see what fuel they recommend

If it's been mapped to 95 octane then you're only getting the benefit of the detergents they put in the fuel to keep your engine healthy

If it's mapped to 97 or 98 (like my Evo is), then make sure you put that in. Typically only forced induction cars (particularly imported ones) have a requirement for higher octane fuel as they have more of a tendency to pre-ignite the fuel

A knock sensor is primarily there to protect the engine against rubbish fuel by pegging back the ignition, you shouldn't rely on it

Crombers

374 posts

213 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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I notice a definite improvement on the B10 V8s V-Power diet but couldn't say the same for my previous 540 or 528.

The Alp feels a little lethargic when run on anything less. Indeed my Volvo S60 2.4T ran considerably worse on V-Power, though that may have been down to the re-map...




PeteG

4,278 posts

233 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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I get an increase in range of about 30 miles per tank on super, and that's in a 7-year-old barge.

nottyash

4,671 posts

217 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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If the car comes from the factory saying 95 octane or higher your wasting your money putting superunleaded in it because its tuned to run on 95 octane. You will get no power advantage at all.
If however you re map the car, more can be had buy remapping it to run on superunleaded. Then it must be run only on superunleaded or you can damage the engine.