NSL to Change to 50mph?
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Durruti

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1,023 posts

261 months

Saturday 7th March 2009
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Road speed limit cut to 50mph

THE government is to cut the national speed limit from 60mph to 50mph on most of Britain’s roads, enforced by a new generation of average speed cameras.

The reduction , to be imposed as early as next year, will affect two thirds of the country’s road network. Drivers will still be able to reach 70mph on motorways and dual carriageways and 60mph on the safest A roads.

Jim Fitzpatrick, the roads minister, defended the plan, which will be the most dramatic cut since 1978, when the national speed limit was reduced from 70mph to 60mph.

“There will be some in the driving lobby who think this is a further attack and a restriction on people’s freedom,” he said. “But when you compare that to the fact we are killing 3,000 people a year on our roads, it would be irresponsible not to do something about it. I’m sure that the vast majority of motorists would support the proposals.”

Rest of the story here - http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/article58...

Nobody You Know

8,422 posts

216 months

Saturday 7th March 2009
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wkers.

If they get that through before they lose the election though I will be surprised.

Spokey

2,246 posts

232 months

Saturday 7th March 2009
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OK, that's it.

Time to leave the country.

HighOctane91

7,211 posts

227 months

Saturday 7th March 2009
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Give it a couple more years and it'll be matching built up areas, meaning 20mph.

jaf01uk

1,943 posts

219 months

Saturday 7th March 2009
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Nobody You Know said:
wkers.

If they get that through before they lose the election though I will be surprised.
Ditto, Read; Camera revenue slowing down and roads even safer than they were, how we going to maintain revenue? Ah that's it lower the limit - genius - NOT!!! Time to address the other 94% of causes of accidents I think, grasp the nettle, you know you can, you say you want to make a difference so go on then...............................
Gary

Ecurie Ecosse

4,812 posts

241 months

Saturday 7th March 2009
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No!!!!!!!!!

Now all the old dears will drive at 40 instead of 50.

Average speed cameras though? Just stop off for a quick slash / fag break between cameras smile

gamefreaks

2,049 posts

210 months

Saturday 7th March 2009
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We need a regime change.

Oh well...only a few more months...and then they can clear their desks and sod off.

Dan-P

87 posts

208 months

Saturday 7th March 2009
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Oh come on the NSL is too low already, why not actually train drivers better and introduce a test which teaches you how to drive properly, not just how to operate the car's basic controls.

iRoll

2,335 posts

254 months

Saturday 7th March 2009
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Durruti said:
“There will be some in the driving lobby who think this is a further attack and a restriction on people’s freedom,” he said. “But when you compare that to the fact we are killing 3,000 people a year on our roads, it would be irresponsible not to do something about it. I’m sure that the vast majority of motorists would support the proposals.”
We are killing 3000 people a year on our roads? Au contraire, my good man, they are killing themselves and they shall continue to do so until we can accurately identify who these morons are.

I look forward to reading 2011's road death figures.

RDMcG

20,469 posts

230 months

Saturday 7th March 2009
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Well...the old 0-60 acceleration time will be reduced to 0-50. I think a single gear is all that will be necessary for performance cars. Soon it will be possible to significantly break the speed limit in reverse.

gazza_3

6,432 posts

231 months

Saturday 7th March 2009
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Hang on years ago when everyone was riding around in something with brakes like bottle tops, we could go 70mph, then, we got disk brakes and ABS and it came down to 60mph, now we have some carbon ceramic (sp)brakes and it drops to 50mph? I there for declare we go back to bottle top brakes smile.

Olivera

8,446 posts

262 months

Saturday 7th March 2009
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This is simply unbelievable. Enjoying any kind of country road driving will now be impossible.

dugt

1,657 posts

230 months

Saturday 7th March 2009
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Durruti said:
The reduction , to be imposed as early as next year, will affect two thirds of the country’s road network. Drivers will still be able to reach 70mph on motorways and dual carriageways and 60mph on the safest A roads.
FFS, a road can not be dangerous, a road is just a strip of tarmac, its the idiots driving on them that can be dangerous

we should be putting speed limits up, not down, cars have improved massivly since the speed limits were set
when the 70 limit on motorways was introduced in December 1965, the cars werent designed for long distances at speed, now they are

really boils my blood this

doug

Snake the Sniper

2,544 posts

224 months

Saturday 7th March 2009
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I really fail to see what this will do. Isn't the chance of having a fatal accident at 50 nearly the same as it is at 60? And how will they decide the "safest" bit? I live out in the sticks, and if the silly wkers try putting up a network of SPECS camera round my way, the fking things are getting cut down. Most of Oxfordshire has a 50 NSL now, and all it does is stop you overtaking the trucks.

jaf01uk

1,943 posts

219 months

Saturday 7th March 2009
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gazza_3 said:
Hang on years ago when everyone was riding around in something with brakes like bottle tops, we could go 70mph, then, we got disk brakes and ABS and it came down to 60mph, now we have some carbon ceramic (sp)brakes and it drops to 50mph? I there for declare we go back to bottle top brakes smile.
Drum brakes and cross ply tyres, thats the only way to go, make things interesting at much lower speeds although I suspect the death toll might rise again............Ncap 5 stars my Ass!!

valve bounce66

2,756 posts

237 months

Saturday 7th March 2009
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how do they work out these nsl,there is a road close to me that is nsl and it has junctions and a single track road so limited to 60 mph,i dont find it safe to go above 50 mph here,strangely there is never any speed cameras here,just outside Preston there is a dual carriage way straight as a die no junctions,no pedestrians ,no schools,no houses and its reduced to a 50 mph limit and the "safety van" is there everyday for approx 5 hours a day,i wouder why ? it was in the local paper a few months ago,it was called the "golden mile" !

Edited by valve bounce66 on Saturday 7th March 22:41

gazza_3

6,432 posts

231 months

Saturday 7th March 2009
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jaf01uk said:
gazza_3 said:
Hang on years ago when everyone was riding around in something with brakes like bottle tops, we could go 70mph, then, we got disk brakes and ABS and it came down to 60mph, now we have some carbon ceramic (sp)brakes and it drops to 50mph? I there for declare we go back to bottle top brakes smile.
Drum brakes and cross ply tyres, thats the only way to go, make things interesting at much lower speeds although I suspect the death toll might rise again............Ncap 5 stars my Ass!!



I'm thinking cross ply tyres in the wet, find a quiet roundabout and MX5 eat 'ya heart out hehe.

kambites

70,654 posts

244 months

Saturday 7th March 2009
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dugt said:
FFS, a road can not be dangerous
Oh I dunno. Try taking a section of unlit motorway running along the edge of a cliff and then bending the lines of catseyes so they direct cars off the edge. hehe

Olivera

8,446 posts

262 months

Saturday 7th March 2009
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gazza_3 said:
Hang on years ago when everyone was riding around in something with brakes like bottle tops, we could go 70mph, then, we got disk brakes and ABS and it came down to 60mph, now we have some carbon ceramic (sp)brakes and it drops to 50mph? I there for declare we go back to bottle top brakes smile.
You've got that wrong. Many years ago there was no speed limit on the motorway. Car technology improved continually from the early years but eventually a 70mph motorway limit was set. More recently, with the introduction of safety features such as airbags and ABS, limits have often been re-banded downwards from 70mph to 60mph, or even from 70mph to 50mph. This new step simply follows that trend by re-classifying all NSL country roads from 60mph to 50mph.

RIP enjoying cars and motoring.

Sim89

1,609 posts

230 months

Saturday 7th March 2009
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Gutting news.

I'm a firm believer in driver education rather than nanny state impositions.