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Some complete bastard in a Merc E Class just drove into the side of my Alfa and then drove off at a rate of knots. I'm not sure if he was even aware that there were four of us in the car at the time (we were parked up in the centre of Bath). I got his number and have reported the incident to BIB (he has a very memorable private number plate). It hasn't been reported stolen.
My wing and driver's door are creased and the mirror has gone, so I guess the bill will be fairly substantial - anybody know what is likely to happen next? Is he likely to be charged with leaving the scene of an accident? What happens if he denies all knowledge?
My wing and driver's door are creased and the mirror has gone, so I guess the bill will be fairly substantial - anybody know what is likely to happen next? Is he likely to be charged with leaving the scene of an accident? What happens if he denies all knowledge?
Apache said:
From previous experience? Bill will send him a form requesting his details, he will deny that he was anywhere near you, Bill will send you a letter saying 'after our exhaustive inquiries there is nothing more we can do'
...and then ask if you were speeding and give you a producer. You will then be sued for causing the driver of the Merc "emotional distress" at being accused and will go to jail. Once there you will be beaten within an inch of your life for daring to be a responsable motorist and once out you will be tagged and GPS monitored just in case you dare drive a car again.
Happy new year
gh0st said:
From previous experience? Bill will send him a form requesting his details, he will deny that he was anywhere near you, Bill will send you a letter saying 'after our exhaustive inquiries there is nothing more we can do'
...and then ask if you were speeding and give you a producer. You will then be sued for causing the driver of the Merc "emotional distress" at being accused and will go to jail. Once there you will be beaten within an inch of your life for daring to be a responsable motorist and once out you will be tagged and GPS monitored just in case you dare drive a car again.
Happy new year
I was given a producer at the station "as a matter of routine".
Well my brother in law (a while back) clipped a nother car with his vehicle.He didn't realise at the time but got reported for hit and run.
Paint that was exchanged from car to car matched.He was CONVICTED of hit and run 9 points
Sounds exactly what has happened in your case except your damage seems more substantial
Paint that was exchanged from car to car matched.He was CONVICTED of hit and run 9 points
Sounds exactly what has happened in your case except your damage seems more substantial
shadowninja said:
grr. typical isn't it. you have 3 witnesses though so it may not result in nothing happening.
btw what's a producer? (in this context :P ) I was under the impression it was something you got when you were driving a car that was not roadworthy for some reason.
No, it's an official Police document that obliges you to provide your driving licence, insurance certificate and MOT at a station of your choice within seven days.
Pies said:
Well my brother in law (a while back) clipped a nother car with his vehicle.He didn't realise at the time but got reported for hit and run.
Paint that was exchanged from car to car matched.He was CONVICTED of hit and run 9 points
Sounds exactly what has happened in your case except your damage seems more substantial
All I can say is your police must be considerably more competant than the Cambridge bunch, who couldn't catch a cold if it was nailed to their forehead, bunch of useles twats
>> Edited by Apache on Saturday 27th December 15:19
DennisTheMenace said:
Why sit and watch him drive away . i would have chased the fecker , too many ignorant narrowminded twats on the road this year and ive only seen one police car all week , i might as well drop my standards and drive like a prick and feck em all
Ten years ago I probably would have done. And I'd have probably dragged him out of his car and beaten several shades out of him. I'm proud of the way I've learnt to control the neanderthal within (although sometimes it isn't too far from the surface). I didn't get a look at who was driving the car (all I saw was its rapidly disappearing rump), but how do you know that the guy wouldn't turn out to be armed or significantly bigger than me (there aren't many people significantly bigger than me, but since giving up the rugby I am a shadow of the man I once was!).
It just isn't worth it.
Mon Ami Mate said:
Apache said:
From previous experience? Bill will send him a form requesting his details, he will deny that he was anywhere near you, Bill will send you a letter saying 'after our exhaustive inquiries there is nothing more we can do'
...and then ask if you were speeding and give you a producer. You will then be sued for causing the driver of the Merc "emotional distress" at being accused and will go to jail. Once there you will be beaten within an inch of your life for daring to be a responsable motorist and once out you will be tagged and GPS monitored just in case you dare drive a car again.
Happy new year
I was given a producer at the station "as a matter of routine".
Nice mate. Wonder if they will be getting anything as harsh as a producer. I do sympathise with your situation and I know my cynical posts do nothing to help but this kind of thing really pisses me off
Hope they get strung up by the short and curlies dude.
Gh0st
Utter scum. 
Get names and addresses of independent witnesses. As you were in the centre of town check for security cameras, you may be able to get some footage.
If the scum driver cannot be identified you should be covered by the insurance industries uninsured loss fund. This will mean no loss of NCB. If my experience last summer is anything to go by the police will not get anywhere with their investigations (in my instance "the registerred keeper sold the car for cash a few weeks before to a stranger in a pub"
DAZ
>> Edited by dazren on Saturday 27th December 15:46
Get names and addresses of independent witnesses. As you were in the centre of town check for security cameras, you may be able to get some footage.
If the scum driver cannot be identified you should be covered by the insurance industries uninsured loss fund. This will mean no loss of NCB. If my experience last summer is anything to go by the police will not get anywhere with their investigations (in my instance "the registerred keeper sold the car for cash a few weeks before to a stranger in a pub"
DAZ
>> Edited by dazren on Saturday 27th December 15:46
Bath is bristling with cctv.
The actions now will be to follow up enquiries on the index number by way of pnc check. The driver will be invited to the nick for a voluntary interview under caution.
If he doesn't wish to do that, then he will be reported for both failing to remain at the scene and failing to stop.
If he opts for a voluntary interview, he will still be summonsed for both offences anyway. (Provided he is the registered keeper.)
The producer given to you is purely procedural, and everyone that reports an RTA (as you did) gets one, it was in no way pointing the finger, moreso to prove you are legit - so don't worry about that bit.
I have always said that our system of registering cars is wrong, each person should be issued with an index number after passing their test, and not the car. This means it would be a lot easier to chase offenders.
My guess, being the car it was is that the driver was drunk in charge, and decided to leg it.
Have a word with bath cctv.
In saying that, the officer investigating will do that anyway.
Regards,
Mike.
The actions now will be to follow up enquiries on the index number by way of pnc check. The driver will be invited to the nick for a voluntary interview under caution.
If he doesn't wish to do that, then he will be reported for both failing to remain at the scene and failing to stop.
If he opts for a voluntary interview, he will still be summonsed for both offences anyway. (Provided he is the registered keeper.)
The producer given to you is purely procedural, and everyone that reports an RTA (as you did) gets one, it was in no way pointing the finger, moreso to prove you are legit - so don't worry about that bit.
I have always said that our system of registering cars is wrong, each person should be issued with an index number after passing their test, and not the car. This means it would be a lot easier to chase offenders.
My guess, being the car it was is that the driver was drunk in charge, and decided to leg it.
Have a word with bath cctv.
In saying that, the officer investigating will do that anyway.
Regards,
Mike.
silverback mike said:
Bath is bristling with cctv.
The actions now will be to follow up enquiries on the index number by way of pnc check. The driver will be invited to the nick for a voluntary interview under caution.
If he doesn't wish to do that, then he will be reported for both failing to remain at the scene and failing to stop.
If he opts for a voluntary interview, he will still be summonsed for both offences anyway. (Provided he is the registered keeper.)
The producer given to you is purely procedural, and everyone that reports an RTA (as you did) gets one, it was in no way pointing the finger, moreso to prove you are legit - so don't worry about that bit.
I have always said that our system of registering cars is wrong, each person should be issued with an index number after passing their test, and not the car. This means it would be a lot easier to chase offenders.
My guess, being the car it was is that the driver was drunk in charge, and decided to leg it.
Have a word with bath cctv.
In saying that, the officer investigating will do that anyway.
Regards,
Mike.
Mike,
Does it make any difference if it was parked in a car park at the time?
Ian_S said:
people in your car are not classed as independant witnesses except in scotland, so "find" some independant ones that were passing by at the time
There were a couple of people, including a taxi driver, present at the time. Unfortunately, although they heard the bang, neither of them saw the actual collision. I have to say that I draw the line at creating my own witnesses. The advent of CCTV really makes adding a fictional element a very dodgy game indeed.
silverback mike said:
Bath is bristling with cctv.
The actions now will be to follow up enquiries on the index number by way of pnc check. The driver will be invited to the nick for a voluntary interview under caution.
If he doesn't wish to do that, then he will be reported for both failing to remain at the scene and failing to stop.
If he opts for a voluntary interview, he will still be summonsed for both offences anyway. (Provided he is the registered keeper.)
The producer given to you is purely procedural, and everyone that reports an RTA (as you did) gets one, it was in no way pointing the finger, moreso to prove you are legit - so don't worry about that bit.
I have always said that our system of registering cars is wrong, each person should be issued with an index number after passing their test, and not the car. This means it would be a lot easier to chase offenders.
My guess, being the car it was is that the driver was drunk in charge, and decided to leg it.
Have a word with bath cctv.
In saying that, the officer investigating will do that anyway.
Regards,
Mike.
Thank you Mike, helpful as ever. I've sent you a personal e-mail, please ignore it if it is an imposition.
sb-1 said:
Bath is bristling with cctv.
The actions now will be to follow up enquiries on the index number by way of pnc check. The driver will be invited to the nick for a voluntary interview under caution.
If he doesn't wish to do that, then he will be reported for both failing to remain at the scene and failing to stop.
If he opts for a voluntary interview, he will still be summonsed for both offences anyway. (Provided he is the registered keeper.)
The producer given to you is purely procedural, and everyone that reports an RTA (as you did) gets one, it was in no way pointing the finger, moreso to prove you are legit - so don't worry about that bit.
I have always said that our system of registering cars is wrong, each person should be issued with an index number after passing their test, and not the car. This means it would be a lot easier to chase offenders.
My guess, being the car it was is that the driver was drunk in charge, and decided to leg it.
Have a word with bath cctv.
In saying that, the officer investigating will do that anyway.
Regards,
Mike.
Mike,
Does it make any difference if it was parked in a car park at the time?
SB-1.
No, as long as it is a place to where the public have access.
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