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Mon Ami Mate

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6,589 posts

289 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/3532067.stm

New Talking Point "Should we have more cameras".

Mr E

22,672 posts

280 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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Why not? Breaking the speed limit is a crime, so they are a cheap and effective way of catching criminals. That frees up police time for other matters, such as targeting dangerous driving that is unrelated to speed.

Stewart, Aberystwyth, Wales

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Why don't we take it one stage further and install a device in every car which automatically issues a fine if you go over the speed limit.

Martin B, Eastbourne, UK

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Nnnnnnnnngggggghh......

DanBoy

4,899 posts

264 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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Hang on, last week they were getting rid of a load, now they're putting more in... Eh?

FourWheelDrift

91,650 posts

305 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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I've sent a comment......we shall see if it's printed.

it's not rude

DanBoy

4,899 posts

264 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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"The millions raised from fines will be used to maintain and extend the camera network."

This says it all, does it not?

FourWheelDrift

91,650 posts

305 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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It says on the BBC webpage - "Disclaimer: The BBC may edit your comments"

Ok so If I wrote, "No I do not think we should have more speed cameras in the UK"

They could 'edi't it to say "Speed Cameras? Oh I love them I think they are an essential part of a happy Britain." instead. possible.

If my comments are posted I'll let you know as they were under a pseudonym.

stooz

3,005 posts

305 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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ive posted too! not one mention of poor driving skills...

schueymcfee

1,577 posts

286 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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Well, I've said my piece. I doubt they'll put it on though

If the government were really interested in people's safety rather than generating revenue they would revoke the licenses of people who simply cannot drive. People need educating properly and this is just not happening. Speed is a contributing factor in an accident but it is not the cause. There are far worse "crimes" on the road, like not checking mirrors and not indicating - which is usually done by the "drivers" that drive at a "safe" speed.

Although I don't think it's too bad. Just not pro-camera so it won't get on!

>> Edited by schueymcfee on Thursday 4th March 11:43

Neil_H

15,407 posts

272 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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Mr E said:
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Why not? Breaking the speed limit is a crime, so they are a cheap and effective way of catching criminals. That frees up police time for other matters, such as targeting dangerous driving that is unrelated to speed.

Stewart, Aberystwyth, Wales

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Why don't we take it one stage further and install a device in every car which automatically issues a fine if you go over the speed limit.

Martin B, Eastbourne, UK

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Nnnnnnnnngggggghh......


AAAARGH

These people need to erradicated from the gene pool, preferably with some napalm.

Mon Ami Mate

Original Poster:

6,589 posts

289 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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Bloody hell, they published my comment!

I recently bough a device called a Road Angel, which uses GPS and a database to warn you where genuine accident blackspots are (as well as all types of speed camera). I soon realised that where black spots are, cameras aren't, and vice versa. We should have speed cameras, but they should be at genuine blackspots and in urban areas (residential streets and outside shops and schools). Most of the cameras I come across in my 20,000-odd miles a year are sited on roads which have had limits arbitrarily reduced from NSL to 30/40mph. They are there to make money.
Malcolm Cupis, Bristol, UK

Edited to add that this, after two years and three months, is apparently my 1000th post. Must try harder...

>> Edited by Mon Ami Mate on Thursday 4th March 12:03

charlescrawley

968 posts

273 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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Although it is gratifying to see the number of anti-camera comments posted so far, I just hope that they're not all just PHers! Are people in general at last seeing scameras for what they are and making their feelings known? Will the government give a hoot?

v8thunder

27,647 posts

279 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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Why the hell do minorities without a clue always manage to make themselves heard and have their decisions acted on???

stooz

3,005 posts

305 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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muppet said:
The more the merrier! If you break the law expect to be caught and heavily fined... no one is exempt so live with it and stop moaning. I am a driver by the way... a law abiding one!
Gregg, UK





he WILL get caught, and I wonder if he will change his tune?

charlescrawley

968 posts

273 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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stooz said:



he WILL get caught, and I wonder if he will change his tune?


He just sounds like a sanctimonious, smug git... Arrgh!

The Witchfinder

94 posts

266 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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Wahey, they published mine too. Looks like the "balance of opinion" swings well in our favour.

thub

1,359 posts

305 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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After a brief read through it would appear that the anti-camera posters are able to put forward reasonable arguments, whereas the pros just spout the unthinking 'just obey the limit' garbage.

SGirl

7,922 posts

282 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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Tim from Bath said:
Speeding causes massive levels of death and injury. It is therefore a violent crime which ought to be dealt with in the same way as assault or robbery.

"Massive"? Only if you're a hedgehog. "Violent crime"? Righto, I'll bear that in mind then. Thanks for the information, I'll remember my balaclava next time I drive to the supermarket.

Nathan from Exeter said:
We could use a cheap, simple electronic transmitter in each car into which you can enter the licence of any bad driver you see or experience. Their registration (your complaint) would then be recorded on a central database. Fines, charges etc. could be issued when pre-decided numbers of entries of the driver's registration have been received.

Good plan. Then we can issue lots and lots of fines to people whose neighbours really annoy them/earn more than them/drive better cars than them, etc. etc. And we can start fining people for driving into the back of other cars while entering other people's registrations (NB not "licence" thank you, this is the UK...) as well!

What's the BBC up to? They had a similar thing on their website the other week that was totally the other way. Loads of people pro-camera, and anti-camera comments were - for want of a better expression - "edited".

Do I detect the makings of a bandwagon here??

jazzybee

3,056 posts

270 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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They published mine too... excellent - I cannot belive how many are making pro speed camera comments though

puggit

49,406 posts

269 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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BBCnews24 are devoting a lot of time to this - we have it on always in our office, sadly with the sound off.

Have seen the infamous ABD worst placed camera in N Wales, they've interviewed motorists at the road side and inside something that looked like a dealership (I'm at an acute angle!).

count duckula

1,324 posts

295 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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Got mine on as well, at least it is a balanced view point, would be good to know how many anti camera messages they got.


Malc