Datsun 240 Z

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neil.b

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262 months

Wednesday 14th April 2004
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I've been looking around for a project car and I've always abolutely loved the Datsun 240 Z but I don't really know a lot about them. Did they sell in UK (i.e. RHD version)? The only ones I've seen for sale are in the the US.

Anybody got comments on their suitablility as a project car for a total novice?

Cheers,

Neil

Incorrigible

13,668 posts

276 months

Wednesday 14th April 2004
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Are you a novice who can weld or not

ZR1427

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264 months

Wednesday 14th April 2004
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From memory they did a 240Z and a 260Z and the uprated versions were called Samariah's.
They were pretty reliable but like all Datsuns of that era rust was a problem.

neil.b

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Wednesday 14th April 2004
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Incorrigible said:
Are you a novice who can weld or not


I've done a fair bit in my youth (when I left school I did an engineering apprentiship) but not for quite a while. Mostly MIG, not much gas.

Why do you ask? (OK, I'm guessing the answer but go on...)

neil.b

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ZR1427 said:
From memory they did a 240Z and a 260Z and the uprated versions were called Samariah's.
They were pretty reliable but like all Datsuns of that era rust was a problem.


Don't like the 260 though. Ruined it IMHO.

Bodywork rust or chassis? Or (gulp) both?

Incorrigible

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276 months

Wednesday 14th April 2004
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I would say go for it then

The mechanicals are pretty simple, but you may well hone your fabrication skills

This is <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=time&v=55">time</a> comsuming but not that expensive, buy/borrow a good mig

>> Where abouts in the UK are you ??

>> Edited by Incorrigible on Wednesday 14th April 15:23

ZR1427

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264 months

Wednesday 14th April 2004
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neil.b said:

ZR1427 said:
From memory they did a 240Z and a 260Z and the uprated versions were called Samariah's.
They were pretty reliable but like all Datsuns of that era rust was a problem.



Don't like the 260 though. Ruined it IMHO.

Bodywork rust or chassis? Or (gulp) both?


Again from memory although the 260Z was in the same body as the 240Z it was allegedly slower for some reason.
I had a Datsun 180B SSS around the same time and remember that Datsun used a very thin sheet metal for the panels and not treated all that well consequently rust was a problem not sure about the chassis though.

I think it would be a fantastic project as you dont see many around these days and IMO are a lovely looking car.

danhay

7,497 posts

271 months

Wednesday 14th April 2004
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The 240Z was the original Z-car and had a 2.4 litre straight 6 engine in a 2 seater RWD body. The later 260Z and 280Z got heavier and were 2+2 I think?

I do like them, but you don't see many of them over here, though they were sold as RHD.

A few years ago Nissan rebuilt and sold as new about 20 of them in California for some sort of anniversary.

neil.b

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Incorrigible said:
I would say go for it then

The mechanicals are pretty simple, but you may well hone your fabrication skills

This is <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=time&v=55">time</a> comsuming but not that expensive, buy/borrow a good mig

>> Where abouts in the UK are you ??

>> Edited by Incorrigible on Wednesday 14th April 15:23


Derbyshire.

neil.b

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ZR1427 said:


I think it would be a fantastic project as you dont see many around these days and IMO are a lovely looking car.


Oh yes, gorgeous. I found this one while searching;

http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/496000-496999/496289_2_full.jpg

Which is a bit OTT (its a US car) but the lines are just stunning!

Incorrigible

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276 months

Wednesday 14th April 2004
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neil.b said:
Derbyshire.
I was going to offer you a bit of first hand advise and a loan of my welder, but you're too far away I'm afraid

ZR1427

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264 months

Wednesday 14th April 2004
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I always remember them like this,



www.cardomain.com/memberpage/378473

Very reliable ,simple and with loads of gadgets for its time.

neil.b

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Incorrigible said:

neil.b said:
Derbyshire.

I was going to offer you a bit of first hand advise and a loan of my welder, but you're too far away I'm afraid


Wow, cheers Ben. You can still give me the advice (if I manage to get my hands on a car)

Incorrigible

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Wednesday 14th April 2004
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neil.b said:
You can still give me the advice (if I manage to get my hands on a car)
Long distance advise may not be the answer best of luck with your search. Another one you may want to consider would be a Triumph GT6, or TR6

pdV6

16,442 posts

276 months

Wednesday 14th April 2004
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ZR1427 said:

I had a Datsun 180B SSS around the same time and remember that Datsun used a very thin sheet metal for the panels and not treated all that well consequently rust was a problem not sure about the chassis though.

I had a 160J SSS which was great (tended to rust a bit if not looked after, though). Never ever seen another one anywhere.

B19GRR

1,980 posts

271 months

Wednesday 14th April 2004
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Go for it!!!

I did and have been spending money ever since

All on good stuff that is!

I paid just under 5k for mine, it's got a sound chassis and a recent engine rebuild. Few bits are a bit tatty but it runs fine. You can of course buy a dog for a few hundred quid and spend thousands or by a concourse for 10k and never drive it.

Get over to the Z Club forums:
www.zclub.net/index.php

There's bugger all difference between an early 260 and a late 240 apart from the engine - bigger in the 260 but less tune due to emmissions.

BTW the Cheshire PlainZ monthly meet is tomorrow and there promises to be some very sorted examples on display. It's at some pub I can never remember the location of but somewhere off the M56. Give Steve Kemp a bell - 01782 518992 - he's the club membership secretary, lives in Biddulph, Staffs. If you're from the west side of the Derbyshire it might be worth coming and checking the meet out.

Cheers,
Rob

neil.b

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Wednesday 14th April 2004
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Cheers Rob,

Sweet car!

The Z meet sounds interesting but my car is away for servicing at the moment and won't get it back until the weekend. In the meantime I'll look at the Z web site.

nevpugh308

4,415 posts

284 months

Wednesday 14th April 2004
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I'm only a stone's throw away (and currently have loads of time on hand due to being out of contract ) so if you want a 2nd eye to cast over any possible cars I'd be happy to help.

Don't know a huge amount about the Datsuns, but if you are considering other cars I know a bit about TR6's and a LOT about GT6's ! (restored 2)

gary.b

66 posts

257 months

Wednesday 14th April 2004
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I owned a 240Z more then 20 years ago, I loved the car, it was my first 2 seater although I did fit a mate in the back parcel shelf from time to time.

the car had good speed and handled well. I did have to weld up lots of the car including part of the chassis, the paint did not last long either, but I recommend the car for sheer fun. - good luck

LuS1fer

42,578 posts

260 months

Wednesday 14th April 2004
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240Z was released in the UK in about 1972. Around 1976, the engine was enlarged to 2600 to cope with emissions requirements in the US but it had smaller valves so the engine was slower and inferior. The 260Z 2+2 followed allowing two small seats but spoiling the roofline from a flowing line to a kinked line.

The 280Z became the boulevard cruiser designed more for the American market with more weight and more emissions stuff. the increased engine size was to try and pull it along. The 300ZX was a boulevard cruiser too and I believe there was a turbo version.

Early stuff rots badly.

The Samurai versions were done by an independent British tuning company.