Sorry to ruin your weekend but...........
Discussion
http://www.brake.org.uk/target-zero
It's amazing that Mercedes (amongst others) are prepared to financially support this from our favourite car hating road safety charity.
Can anyone else spot any of these points that a normal sane person might have issue with?
It's amazing that Mercedes (amongst others) are prepared to financially support this from our favourite
Can anyone else spot any of these points that a normal sane person might have issue with?
So much fun to be had here, but just for a start
But then if these measures were all implemented, then no one would ever die on the roads hence they'd all be out of a job
Brake said:
Finger-print locks are on all vehicles, so only drivers insured and licensed to drive can do so.
Yes I can really see that working when the car goes into the local garage or someone with drive any vehicle wants to use it. Or it's used off road.Brake said:
Maximum engine capacity is limited to within the maximum speed limit
Huh?Brake said:
Driver licensing age is raised to above the teens, to allow for cognitive development.
So you'd be trusted to have a job, have sex with the partner of your choice, buy pornography and violent films, be a registered carer for someone, vote, attend university, fight in the armed forces, drink, smoke.........but not to drive a carBut then if these measures were all implemented, then no one would ever die on the roads hence they'd all be out of a job
[site said]
The road
Speed limits are no higher than 20mph for villages and towns, and lower limits on residential roads.
Traffic-free zones are in all communities so children can roam.
Pavements and safe crossing places are on all community streets.
Separate cycle paths are next to all road or rail routes.
Bus services are in all communities, with links to train stations and times.
Large trucks are restricted in all communities, by size and time and roads.
Speed limits are no higher than 40mph for single carriageway rural roads, and 20mph for narrow country lanes.
Speed limits are no higher than 60mph for two or more lane trunk roads.
High speed rail is available for passengers and freight, for all long distance routes.
There are restrictions on road use, when sustainable, safer transport options are accessible.
The vehicle
Maximum engine capacity is limited to within the maximum speed limit.
All vehicles are driven by sustainable power with zero emissions.
Finger-print locks are on all vehicles, so only drivers insured and licensed to drive can do so.
Speed limit activated speed limiters (ISA), limit vehicles to within the posted speed limit.
Alcolocks and druglocks are on all vehicles.
Seat belt locks are on all vehicles, preventing the vehicle being driven unless belts are fastened.
Occupant crash protection measures are on all buses as well as all other vehicles, such as 3-point belts.
Occupant and pedestrian safety design measures are required by law to latest, highest standards.
Telematics are in vehicles to record driving style, distance and times.
Compulsory qualifications are required for vehicle mechanics, renewed in line with technological developments.
Vehicles must have compulsory servicing, in line with manufacturer recommendations on timing and standards. An on-board clock prevents a vehicle starting if a service date is missed.
Vehicles can’t be started if the on-board computer identifies a safety critical defect between services.
Safety-critical design problems are solved, such as temperamental wheel fixings on large vehicles.
The driver
Compulsory road crash awareness education is in nurseries and schools for all ages, warning against driving.
Driver licensing age is raised to above the teens, to allow for cognitive development.
Driver licensing involves compulsory training by a professional over several years.
Driver training focuses on hazard and crash awareness and prevention measures.
Driver licensing requires mental as well as physical health assessment, to rigorous standards
New drivers are banned from driving at night and on the fastest roads.
New drivers are banned from carrying passengers other than their own family members.
Health screening for eyesight and impairing medical conditions is required regularly for all drivers.
There is regular compulsory re-testing of drivers.
There is a ban on all levels of drink driving, with a trace element of no more than 20mg per 100ml of blood allowable
There is a ban on use of any impairing drug while driving, legal or illegal.
There is a ban on mobile phones and pagers of all kinds while driving.
There is a ban on overtaking free-moving traffic, except on multi-lane roads.
Sleep and journey break laws are in line with academic advice on required rest, for all drivers.
Enforcement
Cameras on roads and in vehicles can identify vehicles, drivers, and any offences that can still feasibly be committed, such as red light running or mobile phone use.
Large numbers of highly trained traffic police are armed with relevant detecting equipment, to patrol and identify offences that can still be committed.
Traffic police have the power to seize dangerous vehicles and prohibit dangerous drivers.
A highly resourced agency enforces company fleet safety, helping companies implement safety requirements.
A crash investigation agency investigates and records crash numbers and causes and prevents future tragedies.
Life bans are implemented for life-threatening and life-taking drivers.
[/site said]
Crikey. This is going to take some planning...
The road
Speed limits are no higher than 20mph for villages and towns, and lower limits on residential roads.
Traffic-free zones are in all communities so children can roam.
Pavements and safe crossing places are on all community streets.
Separate cycle paths are next to all road or rail routes.
Bus services are in all communities, with links to train stations and times.
Large trucks are restricted in all communities, by size and time and roads.
Speed limits are no higher than 40mph for single carriageway rural roads, and 20mph for narrow country lanes.
Speed limits are no higher than 60mph for two or more lane trunk roads.
High speed rail is available for passengers and freight, for all long distance routes.
There are restrictions on road use, when sustainable, safer transport options are accessible.
The vehicle
Maximum engine capacity is limited to within the maximum speed limit.
All vehicles are driven by sustainable power with zero emissions.
Finger-print locks are on all vehicles, so only drivers insured and licensed to drive can do so.
Speed limit activated speed limiters (ISA), limit vehicles to within the posted speed limit.
Alcolocks and druglocks are on all vehicles.
Seat belt locks are on all vehicles, preventing the vehicle being driven unless belts are fastened.
Occupant crash protection measures are on all buses as well as all other vehicles, such as 3-point belts.
Occupant and pedestrian safety design measures are required by law to latest, highest standards.
Telematics are in vehicles to record driving style, distance and times.
Compulsory qualifications are required for vehicle mechanics, renewed in line with technological developments.
Vehicles must have compulsory servicing, in line with manufacturer recommendations on timing and standards. An on-board clock prevents a vehicle starting if a service date is missed.
Vehicles can’t be started if the on-board computer identifies a safety critical defect between services.
Safety-critical design problems are solved, such as temperamental wheel fixings on large vehicles.
The driver
Compulsory road crash awareness education is in nurseries and schools for all ages, warning against driving.
Driver licensing age is raised to above the teens, to allow for cognitive development.
Driver licensing involves compulsory training by a professional over several years.
Driver training focuses on hazard and crash awareness and prevention measures.
Driver licensing requires mental as well as physical health assessment, to rigorous standards
New drivers are banned from driving at night and on the fastest roads.
New drivers are banned from carrying passengers other than their own family members.
Health screening for eyesight and impairing medical conditions is required regularly for all drivers.
There is regular compulsory re-testing of drivers.
There is a ban on all levels of drink driving, with a trace element of no more than 20mg per 100ml of blood allowable
There is a ban on use of any impairing drug while driving, legal or illegal.
There is a ban on mobile phones and pagers of all kinds while driving.
There is a ban on overtaking free-moving traffic, except on multi-lane roads.
Sleep and journey break laws are in line with academic advice on required rest, for all drivers.
Enforcement
Cameras on roads and in vehicles can identify vehicles, drivers, and any offences that can still feasibly be committed, such as red light running or mobile phone use.
Large numbers of highly trained traffic police are armed with relevant detecting equipment, to patrol and identify offences that can still be committed.
Traffic police have the power to seize dangerous vehicles and prohibit dangerous drivers.
A highly resourced agency enforces company fleet safety, helping companies implement safety requirements.
A crash investigation agency investigates and records crash numbers and causes and prevents future tragedies.
Life bans are implemented for life-threatening and life-taking drivers.
[/site said]
Crikey. This is going to take some planning...
Have they changed their logo so it looks like a play on the British Heart Foundation. Disgraceful.
Then they probably won't drive again being one handed and wanting only the best in road safety. So they will go and be an insane fanatical nutter about something else.
How the f
k are they a charity.
Brake Muppets said:
Finger-print locks are on all vehicles, so only drivers insured and licensed to drive can do so.
I cant wait for the first bit of news of a brake member losing their hand so they can steal their car. Then they probably won't drive again being one handed and wanting only the best in road safety. So they will go and be an insane fanatical nutter about something else.
More Brake Muppets said:
Compulsory road crash awareness education is in nurseries and schools for all ages, warning against driving.
Your teaching 3 year olds not to drive.How the f
k are they a charity.I think it is an agenda which has escaped from 1984.
I think if a product is sponsoring BRAKE then simply write to the company saying you will not be buying it again, and will tell all your friends and forums you are a member of.
That includes Mercedes.
I have said many times that the speed obsessed defectives who seek to slow the world down are not held to account for the waste of time and cost that these measures cost, and how this affects the ability of the UK to compete, so hindering growth, as well as consuming life through congestion and extended travel times.
Despite their 'high and mighty' stance, theirs is not a victimless viewpoint.
I think if a product is sponsoring BRAKE then simply write to the company saying you will not be buying it again, and will tell all your friends and forums you are a member of.
That includes Mercedes.
I have said many times that the speed obsessed defectives who seek to slow the world down are not held to account for the waste of time and cost that these measures cost, and how this affects the ability of the UK to compete, so hindering growth, as well as consuming life through congestion and extended travel times.
Despite their 'high and mighty' stance, theirs is not a victimless viewpoint.
Has there ever been a proper publicised face to face debate between the PH crew and the muppets from 'Brake' ?
Perhaps this would be a good thing given the insane and completely idiotic view they have on driving ?
In fact reading that, why don't all Brake members just stop driving, after all its much safer.
Large numbers of highly trained traffic police are armed with relevant detecting equipment, to patrol and identify offences that can still be committed.
Couldn't all those alco/speed/finger print/fault/uninsured sensors also be set to recognise red lights & imobilise the vehicle until green? Then we can save even more money as there won't be any traffic offences so no need for any traffic cops.
Oh bugger, I've given them an idea
Couldn't all those alco/speed/finger print/fault/uninsured sensors also be set to recognise red lights & imobilise the vehicle until green? Then we can save even more money as there won't be any traffic offences so no need for any traffic cops.
Oh bugger, I've given them an idea
Acheron said:
Finger-print locks are on all vehicles, so only drivers insured and licensed to drive can do so.
Alcolocks and druglocks are on all vehicles.
"Hi mate, can i borrow your car? Yeah, just let me unlock it for you"
Insta fail.
Italics PH tags fail as much as that website does.
hthAlcolocks and druglocks are on all vehicles.
"Hi mate, can i borrow your car? Yeah, just let me unlock it for you"
Insta fail.
Italics PH tags fail as much as that website does.
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