Woman Gets 6 Points and £200 Fine.
Woman Gets 6 Points and £200 Fine.
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DanBoy

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4,899 posts

265 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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For driving too slowly.

Apparently at times she was doing as little as 5mph on her way home from somewhere or other. Just heard it on the news. Hehe.

dazren

22,612 posts

283 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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Did they force her to get her eyes checked?

DAZ

DanBoy

Original Poster:

4,899 posts

265 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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They should have done - She apparently caused massive tailbacks.

swilly

9,699 posts

296 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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Take a minute to think about this.

Why was she doing only 5mph at times?

If it was cos she was nervous at the wheel and the like, then she should have had her licence revoked.

What does 6 points and a fine do other than clutter up her licence and make her £200 poorer.

Will it do anything for her driving in future?

Will this possible nervous and unsure driver end up driving faster, say 30mph, in future causing her to panic and possibly cause an accident/injury/damage to property?

Rather than giving a horray to the magi's for pinning this on her I am more swayed to criticise them for blindly imposing a pointless punishment that doesnt appear to me to deal with the cause or possible future consequences of her actions.

rospa

494 posts

270 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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Swilly

Agreed.

She needs a retest and if not up to scratch her license recoking. Permanently.

D-Angle

4,468 posts

264 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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So who's for cameras that flash you if you're going too slow in certain areas?

They'd make a fortune from every case, no one would ever argue in case their mates heard what they had been caught for...

Buffalo

5,472 posts

276 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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swilly said:
Take a minute to think about this.

Why was she doing only 5mph at times?

If it was cos she was nervous at the wheel and the like, then she should have had her licence revoked.

What does 6 points and a fine do other than clutter up her licence and make her £200 poorer.

Will it do anything for her driving in future?

Will this possible nervous and unsure driver end up driving faster, say 30mph, in future causing her to panic and possibly cause an accident/injury/damage to property?

Rather than giving a horray to the magi's for pinning this on her I am more swayed to criticise them for blindly imposing a pointless punishment that doesnt appear to me to deal with the cause or possible future consequences of her actions.


The same could be said for points/fines in general...

- or was that your point?

jim'schim

502 posts

274 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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swilly said:
Take a minute to think about this.

Why was she doing only 5mph at times?

If it was cos she was nervous at the wheel and the like, then she should have had her licence revoked.

What does 6 points and a fine do other than clutter up her licence and make her £200 poorer.

Will it do anything for her driving in future?



She was down to walking pace going round corners on a rural road not far from me. Her solicitor said she had never driven in the dark before and was nervous. I believe she is 75 years old. This fine (not necessarily the amount) may make her change her ways. Maybe she won't drive in the dark again if she's so afraid. Personally, I think the police and the court should be applauded in recognising that it isn't always EXCESS speed which is the problem. Many years ago, the police in my area stopped a driver who was doing 20mph on the motorway, long before the current anti speeding stuff we hear about these days. BTW in my area there are NO fixed Gatsos, they only appear when you cross the borders to the next police areas

docevi1

10,430 posts

270 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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Buffalo said:

The same could be said for points/fines in general...
- or was that your point?


I'm guessing he was replying to a throw-away post I made and then thought better off. I deleted it pretty quick, but obviously not quick enough

Sorry.

swilly

9,699 posts

296 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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Jim's'Chim,

It appears to me the courts have simply punished her for doing something contrary to something else and not paid much attention to fitting the consequential action to the offence ie If she can only drive at 5mph around a bend in the dark is she fit to be in control of the vehicle.

More fundamentally, Is she IN control of the vehicle?

These questions are left unanswered and as far as i am aware there has been no consideration of her future potential actions inher vehicle.

swilly

9,699 posts

296 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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Buffalo said:
The same could be said for points/fines in general...

- or was that your point?

In general points and fine are suitable for breaches that do not involve questioning your suitability to possess a licence or your ability to control your vehicle.

Take a middle-lane hogger, points and fine are appropriate for this offence.

Doing 100mph through a town centre midday on a saturday, would warrant more than points and a fine.

Driving at 5mph cos your shite scared and unsure what your doing warrants a review of your abilities and reconsideration of your competence to hold the licence.

swilly

9,699 posts

296 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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docevi1 said:

Buffalo said:

The same could be said for points/fines in general...
- or was that your point?



I'm guessing he was replying to a throw-away post I made and then thought better off. I deleted it pretty quick, but obviously not quick enough

Sorry.


No I'm sure you deleted it quick enough cos I never saw it.

docevi1

10,430 posts

270 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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well I'll delete that one again and all that'll be left will be a quote and this message

Confuse newcomers to the thread lots

Balmoral Green

42,554 posts

270 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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I like sugar on mine.

CarZee

13,382 posts

289 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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Just heard this on the radio.

Does it not strike anyone else here that the biggest problem here is not this woman, but people's inability to overtake? It smacks of laziness, lack of driving skill, poor observation or simple stupidity.

I bet the only reason she came to the attention of plod is because of the 20 stupid twats stuck behind her.

I mean, the woman clearly shouldn't be driving, but if you can't overtake this person, then you shouldn't be driving either!

>> Edited by CarZee on Friday 7th May 18:30

Plotloss

67,280 posts

292 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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Send her to London for the day, that'll sort it out one way or the other.

CarZee

13,382 posts

289 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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Plotloss said:
Send her to London for the day, that'll sort it out one way or the other.
You'd think so wouldn't you, but there's a lass who just started working at our place who lives in N1. The other day she drove up the M3 in 3rd gear because she's hardly ever driven out as far as the north circ let alone a fast flowing motorway.

Jim'schim

502 posts

274 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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CarZee said:
Just heard this on the radio.

Does it not strike anyone else here that the biggest problem here is not this woman, but people's inability to overtake? It smacks of laziness, lack of driving skill, poor observation or simple stupidity.

I bet the only reason she came to the attention of plod is because of the 20 stupid twats stuck behind her.

I mean, the woman clearly shouldn't be driving, but if you can't overtake this person, then you shouldn't be driving either!

>> Edited by CarZee on Friday 7th May 18:30


You know this road then? You sure you could overtake her in the dark?

DanBoy

Original Poster:

4,899 posts

265 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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A few people probably did get past, but by all accounts there weren't too many places to get by, so for every one car overtaking, there were probably five joining the back of the queue!

BU5T4

185 posts

270 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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I also beleave that a re-sit should have been in order in this instance.