Massive rise in P plates
Discussion
sherman said:
P plate drivers do seem to be increasing.
I think it must be from the covid backlog of learners and people going back to the office and reallising the bus route no longer exists so have to now drive.
I do wonder if a few of the P plate people are just people that have not driven much at all since covid and have put P plates on until they are confident again.
Could be, just the last few weeks I honestly can't believe how many I've seen compared to normalI think it must be from the covid backlog of learners and people going back to the office and reallising the bus route no longer exists so have to now drive.
I do wonder if a few of the P plate people are just people that have not driven much at all since covid and have put P plates on until they are confident again.
My wife kept her plates on for a year or so after passing. When I borrowed the car, I didn't bother taking them off - you quickly learnt that most drivers are totally intolerant and think their driving skills are far better than they are.
But the fun you can have with them was priceless...
But the fun you can have with them was priceless...
We put a "P" plate on our son's car when he passed the Driving Test.
He's neither a plank, a particularly nervous driver, or whatever.
When you pass the test, that's when you start to learn to drive.
The "P" plate just alerts others (except possibly the OP) to go easy and be ready for something that may not be a stupid as many other nutters on the road.
He'll probably take the plates off after 6 months or so.
He's neither a plank, a particularly nervous driver, or whatever.
When you pass the test, that's when you start to learn to drive.
The "P" plate just alerts others (except possibly the OP) to go easy and be ready for something that may not be a stupid as many other nutters on the road.
He'll probably take the plates off after 6 months or so.
Bobupndown said:
Here in Northern Ireland when you pass your driving test you automatically have to display orange R plates, R for Restricted driver for a year, still limited to 45 mph the same as learners. Gives newly passed drivers experience driving on their own but still speed limited and let's other drivers be aware that the driver has limited experience. I think it's a sensible idea.
So new drivers in NI are a danger to themselves and others when joining a motorway or fast-moving traffic on a dual carriageway and are likely never shown how to do it properly?A massive contribution to road safety; speed kills, after all!
Sebbak said:
As Hoofy mentioned, probably nervous due to having people steaming up their backsides at 50mph in a 30 limit the first 2 weeks they passed. I'll certainly give learners and P-plates a bit more time, as I realise they could have passed yesterday for all I know.
What we really need are D plates for all the d
heads that can't drive to save their lives and have no interest in doing so either. But that's another discussion entirely lol
You do realise that D plates are an alternative in Wales (D for Dysgwr = Learner)What we really need are D plates for all the d
heads that can't drive to save their lives and have no interest in doing so either. But that's another discussion entirely lolYou may also not realise that ‘lol’ in Welsh means ‘nonsense’
Skyedriver said:
We put a "P" plate on our son's car when he passed the Driving Test.
He's neither a plank, a particularly nervous driver, or whatever.
When you pass the test, that's when you start to learn to drive.
The "P" plate just alerts others (except possibly the OP) to go easy and be ready for something that may not be a stupid as many other nutters on the road.
He'll probably take the plates off after 6 months or so.
Same here for both sons. The problem is the OP. If there weren't so many like him with an absolutely sHe's neither a plank, a particularly nervous driver, or whatever.
When you pass the test, that's when you start to learn to drive.
The "P" plate just alerts others (except possibly the OP) to go easy and be ready for something that may not be a stupid as many other nutters on the road.
He'll probably take the plates off after 6 months or so.
t attitude, then we wouldn't need P plates. It's rather childish to say that it makes someone look like a plank or a dunce.
Rather, it's a considerate act of safety, letting other drivers know that you're inexperienced and may do something out of the ordinary.
As adults aren't we supposed to grow out of calling people names because they have cautious or considerate attitudes, or behave in a way that goes against some arbitrary definition of cool?
Never used them myself though - too many stories of them being magnet for people with poor attitudes.
Rather, it's a considerate act of safety, letting other drivers know that you're inexperienced and may do something out of the ordinary.
As adults aren't we supposed to grow out of calling people names because they have cautious or considerate attitudes, or behave in a way that goes against some arbitrary definition of cool?
Never used them myself though - too many stories of them being magnet for people with poor attitudes.
Where I used to live there was a car, just around the corner from my flat, that was always parked on a junction corner. Half on the pavement, blocking the whole thing, and half on the road making it awkward to see as you turned the corner. The car had P plates on for over a year when I lived there. I always assumed it stood for Prat as that's certainly how they parked.
There are alot my way that appear to be used by foreign national carers who go to homes (a lot of old people live near me). Assume they are possibly being part funded by the care companies to come over, learn to drive and get out there working? Often they rock up 3/4 up and then fan out to their respective house to do whatever they do at each one.
Maybe the bottleneck is clearing on tests... I know there was a huge queue after COVID as a young lad in my office had a 9 month waiting list for a test in London!
I try and give them a bit more tolerance, you know the driver is likely to be a bit slower / nervous, preferable to the idiots who overtake at 60 in a 30!
I try and give them a bit more tolerance, you know the driver is likely to be a bit slower / nervous, preferable to the idiots who overtake at 60 in a 30!
What P-plates are supposed to be is an indicator that the wearer is new to driving and should be given consideration, patience and space while they get used to driving on their own without a supervisor after recently passing their test and gaining confidence and experience - it's a truism that one only learns to drive properly after the test, not before.
What P-plates are in reality are similar to L-plates - a magnet for abuse from those who believe the roads are only for driving gods (self-appointed) and that anybody below their (self-appointed) high standards should hand their licences in. Funnily enough these gods seem to think they should be entitled to drive like a wker, cut people up, tailgate etc.
I passed 15 months ago, much later in life than is usual. I'm not and wasn't a nervous driver, but thought it would be considerate to buy and use P plates after passing. That lasted 4 days and I took them off and binned them.
Future - I'd advise to not use these, but for the first couple of months after passing, if you're of a nervous disposition keep going out with a friend. I did this just after passing with a friend who had also done so, she was nervous, I wasn't. She tells me it helped.
What P-plates are in reality are similar to L-plates - a magnet for abuse from those who believe the roads are only for driving gods (self-appointed) and that anybody below their (self-appointed) high standards should hand their licences in. Funnily enough these gods seem to think they should be entitled to drive like a w
ker, cut people up, tailgate etc.I passed 15 months ago, much later in life than is usual. I'm not and wasn't a nervous driver, but thought it would be considerate to buy and use P plates after passing. That lasted 4 days and I took them off and binned them.
Future - I'd advise to not use these, but for the first couple of months after passing, if you're of a nervous disposition keep going out with a friend. I did this just after passing with a friend who had also done so, she was nervous, I wasn't. She tells me it helped.
There's a badly driven Mercedes B Class with a P plate, only thing is it's had that P plate for at least 2 years. I'm not sure they've ever actually passed a test.
I think P plates probably increase impatience and bullying, a colleague of mine when she passed put a P plate on and said she was getting beeped and tailgated and bullied, took them off on my advice and the bullying stopped.
I think P plates probably increase impatience and bullying, a colleague of mine when she passed put a P plate on and said she was getting beeped and tailgated and bullied, took them off on my advice and the bullying stopped.
carlove said:
There's a badly driven Mercedes B Class with a P plate, only thing is it's had that P plate for at least 2 years. I'm not sure they've ever actually passed a test.
I think P plates probably increase impatience and bullying, a colleague of mine when she passed put a P plate on and said she was getting beeped and tailgated and bullied, took them off on my advice and the bullying stopped.
Not commenting on the quality of driving on the owner of said Merc with P-plate, but can definitely relate to road abuse. Had it myself. Bin the plates, goes away.I think P plates probably increase impatience and bullying, a colleague of mine when she passed put a P plate on and said she was getting beeped and tailgated and bullied, took them off on my advice and the bullying stopped.
As far as I’m concerned, if they know they fluked a pass and there incompetent / nervous / literally just passed then I’d rather you have a green P plate, in fact I would argue it should be mandatory for new drivers for say the first two years.
That way I can give you a wide berth, give you more time and expect you to do something really really stupid. It might just be the difference between a near miss or an accident.
That and I imagine it stops a lot of drivers getting irate and aggressive with them as they are assumed to have just passed and there really only just learning to drive unsupervised.
That way I can give you a wide berth, give you more time and expect you to do something really really stupid. It might just be the difference between a near miss or an accident.
That and I imagine it stops a lot of drivers getting irate and aggressive with them as they are assumed to have just passed and there really only just learning to drive unsupervised.
ThingsBehindTheSun said:
dibblecorse said:
Surely the four cock rings on the front is enough of a clue that the driver is going to drive in an aggressive and selfish manner? Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff