RE: Viola Hong Kong Ferrari 812 GTS for sale

RE: Viola Hong Kong Ferrari 812 GTS for sale

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Quags

1,541 posts

262 months

Monday 13th May
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NGK210 said:
Lovely. (But its price is well cheeky.)

Looking at this 812, why on earth would anyone want a Dodi, with its fugly "exquisite corpse" styling and downmarket all-haptic / touchscreen cabin?
My thoughts exactly.

Nish Gnackers

1,068 posts

42 months

Monday 13th May
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Wills2 said:
Very nice but that's a toppy price for the paint job, near £400k feels like they are "testing the market" for those that haven't taken to the new one, watched an 812 SF not sell on collecting cars yesterday, highest bid was £188k same with a 1000 mile SF90 spider that failed to sell at £380k (retails are around £500k on autotrader)

Ferrari's push skywards on retails has created an enormous gap between the as optioned new price and what the market is prepared to pay down the line, it's a rich persons game buying a new one that's for sure.
The 812 on Collecting Cars wasn't a GTS, it was a 2019 SF with circa 20k miles on the clock and a fairly standard spec.

Deranged Rover

3,431 posts

75 months

Monday 13th May
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That's lovely!

Wills2

23,121 posts

176 months

Monday 13th May
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Nish Gnackers said:
Wills2 said:
Very nice but that's a toppy price for the paint job, near £400k feels like they are "testing the market" for those that haven't taken to the new one, watched an 812 SF not sell on collecting cars yesterday, highest bid was £188k same with a 1000 mile SF90 spider that failed to sell at £380k (retails are around £500k on autotrader)

Ferrari's push skywards on retails has created an enormous gap between the as optioned new price and what the market is prepared to pay down the line, it's a rich persons game buying a new one that's for sure.
The 812 on Collecting Cars wasn't a GTS, it was a 2019 SF with circa 20k miles on the clock and a fairly standard spec.
Pretty easy for a reader to see that I wrote SF not GTS, although your reading skills clearly need a brush up it was on mid teens not 20k and it was also an Atelier car, but heh you carry on

It's not beyond the wit of most to add the GTS premium to the accepted trade price of an SF so see what that purple car would stand at is the point.

Lovely cars though.














Nish Gnackers

1,068 posts

42 months

Monday 13th May
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Wills2 said:
Nish Gnackers said:
Wills2 said:
Very nice but that's a toppy price for the paint job, near £400k feels like they are "testing the market" for those that haven't taken to the new one, watched an 812 SF not sell on collecting cars yesterday, highest bid was £188k same with a 1000 mile SF90 spider that failed to sell at £380k (retails are around £500k on autotrader)

Ferrari's push skywards on retails has created an enormous gap between the as optioned new price and what the market is prepared to pay down the line, it's a rich persons game buying a new one that's for sure.
The 812 on Collecting Cars wasn't a GTS, it was a 2019 SF with circa 20k miles on the clock and a fairly standard spec.
Pretty easy for a reader to see that I wrote SF not GTS, although your reading skills clearly need a brush up it was on mid teens not 20k and it was also an Atelier car, but heh you carry on

It's not beyond the wit of most to add the GTS premium to the accepted trade price of an SF so see what that purple car would stand at is the point.

Lovely cars though.

The CC 812 would have been around £310k when new. Atelier cars are not in the Tailor Made price bracket.

My recollection was 19k miles but it was 14k.

GTSs were always well over £350k when new as Ferrari didn't accept orders for them without a generous helping of options.


mirsgarage

253 posts

20 months

Monday 13th May
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Always handbags in here..

Anyway, atelier cars don't carry much if any weight re value, unless the spec is exceptionally good/in-line with the current insta-trend.

Tailor made cars will just be very spec dependant.

GTS premium is undefined and pretty hard unless you know what the various cars are transacting for. At the moment £190-200k is probably the trade price on most 812s. No knowledge, just a guess - I just bought a TDF Blue 812 w/ tan interior - generally pretty "safe", and the was £220k or thereabouts.

I'd say the GTS premium is £100-120k? Or is it - because at that sort of premium I'm not seeing any cars move..? So, probably high on price, but most things are these days in the supercar market.

gruppeb86

365 posts

14 months

Monday 13th May
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LotusMac22 said:
The article author spelt VILE wrong!
I agree.

Marc H

209 posts

155 months

Monday 13th May
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Black S2K said:
Deepest Purple - Highway Star!
indeed.... it's a killin machine.... from nurburgring blue 2k man.... Osaka '72.

pycraft

807 posts

185 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Nish Gnackers said:
garystoybox said:
Nish Gnackers said:
Apple carplay is standard on all 812s
Ehh, no, it isn’t. They included it late in the run as part of a price increase but I paid extra on my 2019 car.
It was "free" on mine when I specced it in September 2019 ... delivered November 2019.
Yeah, well it's not standard on my rented Nissan Kicks either!

I hate you all.

Julian Scott

2,613 posts

25 months

Tuesday 14th May
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thehardman07 said:
A dream car in a beautiful colour. But as others have said, calipers need to be yellow and wheels need to be in a lighter colour. Like this maybe...

My turn to go against the flow....I don't like that. With such a statement colour, I think the wheels (and calipers) should not compete.


garypotter

1,541 posts

151 months

Tuesday 14th May
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A friend of mine took my 16 yr old daughter out for a spin and now she will not shut up about it!! we absolutley love the 812GTS my friend also commented the GTS is a much better car then the 812 superfast he had previously.

IJB1959

2,140 posts

87 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Orchardab said:
That colour. Wow.
Agree

pheonix478

1,383 posts

39 months

Tuesday 14th May
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I read somewhere that on average Ferrari's are ordered with $70k of options! I just don't get it. That's almost entirely cosmetic. WTF. For me the joy of a Ferrari is almost entirely in driving it not playing dress up. Vajazzling a Ferrari with as many options as possible seems to be the fashion but then so is not driving them and worrying about resale. All that said, loving the purple, just not the price.

Julian Scott

2,613 posts

25 months

Wednesday 15th May
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pheonix478 said:
I read somewhere that on average Ferrari's are ordered with $70k of options! I just don't get it. That's almost entirely cosmetic. WTF. For me the joy of a Ferrari is almost entirely in driving it not playing dress up. Vajazzling a Ferrari with as many options as possible seems to be the fashion but then so is not driving them and worrying about resale. All that said, loving the purple, just not the price.
Not all options are cosmetic.

Nish Gnackers

1,068 posts

42 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Agreed

I specced the large carbon racing seats in both my 458 spider and 812SF.

I'm too tall to fit in the standard electric seats comfortably in both 'tipos'.

pheonix478

1,383 posts

39 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Julian Scott said:
pheonix478 said:
I read somewhere that on average Ferrari's are ordered with $70k of options! I just don't get it. That's almost entirely cosmetic. WTF. For me the joy of a Ferrari is almost entirely in driving it not playing dress up. Vajazzling a Ferrari with as many options as possible seems to be the fashion but then so is not driving them and worrying about resale. All that said, loving the purple, just not the price.
Not all options are cosmetic.
Yes, as I said, "almost". Even those options that aren't are convenience/safety/matching luggage(!) type bo11ocks, they don't even pretend any of the various exhaust options are performance options any more. Feel free to ignore me, it's just the engineer in me gets annoyed by $50,000 of carbon tat that weighs exactly the same as the $500 of plastic it replaces. It vexes me. I'm terribly vexed. wink

nismo48

3,824 posts

208 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Nish Gnackers said:
Agreed

I specced the large carbon racing seats in both my 458 spider and 812SF.

I'm too tall to fit in the standard electric seats comfortably in both 'tipos'.
Good stuff wink

FastJapCars

40 posts

136 months

Friday 17th May
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The advertised car has sold. Today, 17th May, I think I saw this exact same car parked in the high street of Acocks Green, south east Birmingham. Parked in a disabled bay!!! I recognised it and walked over to take the photo.