Is there still Stigma around BMW (and Audi ) drivers?
Discussion
garypotter said:
imho every EV is driven by a moron who feels they are saving the planet and sitting at 65mph in the middle lane. Moped riders in London
I often sit at 65 MPH in mine if going a long distance, but in lane 1, but because I am saving the battery from having to charge it. Nobody in an EV thinks they are saving the planet, we are saving BIK. Advert from the 1990's apologies many have seen it before but it is a classic.
Basically Audi were saying that BMW drivers are tossers and Audis are for the more discerning. How times change. Moreover, the arrogant young man in the advert looked a bit too much like he was having a pretty fun life in any case.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIQ-283wKgg
Basically Audi were saying that BMW drivers are tossers and Audis are for the more discerning. How times change. Moreover, the arrogant young man in the advert looked a bit too much like he was having a pretty fun life in any case.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIQ-283wKgg
Rich Boy Spanner said:
The only car I genuinely find to be almost always driven by bell ends is the Audi A3. Invariably metallic grey like 99.9% of them, stench of weed, full of scrotes, s
t music, blacked out windows, always driven badly. They are a living stereotype. The Merc A Class takes 2nd position.
BMW's, not really, not any more.
BMWs still have plenty of them. Usually 10 year old M3s with blacked out windows and a dodgy body kit, all either coming from or heading to the Birmingham area.t music, blacked out windows, always driven badly. They are a living stereotype. The Merc A Class takes 2nd position.BMW's, not really, not any more.
CLK-GTR said:
Rich Boy Spanner said:
The only car I genuinely find to be almost always driven by bell ends is the Audi A3. Invariably metallic grey like 99.9% of them, stench of weed, full of scrotes, st music, blacked out windows, always driven badly. They are a living stereotype. The Merc A Class takes 2nd position.
BMW's, not really, not any more.
BMWs still have plenty of them. Usually 10 year old M3s with blacked out windows and a dodgy body kit, all either coming from or heading to the Birmingham area.t music, blacked out windows, always driven badly. They are a living stereotype. The Merc A Class takes 2nd position.BMW's, not really, not any more.
Rich Boy Spanner said:
The only car I genuinely find to be almost always driven by bell ends is the Audi A3. Invariably metallic grey like 99.9% of them, stench of weed, full of scrotes, st music, blacked out windows, always driven badly. They are a living stereotype. The Merc A Class takes 2nd position.
BMW's, not really, not any more.
100% this. 1 series has it as well but not to the same extent.t music, blacked out windows, always driven badly. They are a living stereotype. The Merc A Class takes 2nd position.BMW's, not really, not any more.
Even before the BMW and Mercedes moved into selling w
ky little hatches it was always the crap versions you saw being driven in a bellend-ish fashion.There's a stereo type of BMW drivers never using their indicators, which I can get on board with from experience, but as a fairly recent BMW owner (last year) they're the best indicator stalks I've ever used! 
Around my end M1XXi's and clapped out Vauxhalls are the weapons of choice of local sprockets. The former usually adorned with faux carbon fibre bits and 3D printed registration plates, the latter blasting soot out the back the minute a moment of clear air in front of them appears.
Rarely see any Merc/Audi driver issues around here!
ETA: Kudo's on the E39! (pic please)
Around my end M1XXi's and clapped out Vauxhalls are the weapons of choice of local sprockets. The former usually adorned with faux carbon fibre bits and 3D printed registration plates, the latter blasting soot out the back the minute a moment of clear air in front of them appears.
Rarely see any Merc/Audi driver issues around here!
ETA: Kudo's on the E39! (pic please)
I tend to do most of my observing as a cyclist, as driver behaviour toward other cars can depend on their own views about the car I'm driving at the time, which varies. Everyone hates cyclists, so its a good control.
I can confirm Audi drivers are by far and away the worst. Surprisingly, Volvo drivers are frequently inconsiderate, but that may be because they are often XC SUVs. Tesla drivers are definitely getting worse.
As a genre, SUV drivers seem bad more frequently, but that may be a function of there being more of them.
I can confirm Audi drivers are by far and away the worst. Surprisingly, Volvo drivers are frequently inconsiderate, but that may be because they are often XC SUVs. Tesla drivers are definitely getting worse.
As a genre, SUV drivers seem bad more frequently, but that may be a function of there being more of them.
axel1990chp said:
There's a stereo type of BMW drivers never using their indicators, which I can get on board with from experience, but as a fairly recent BMW owner (last year) they're the best indicator stalks I've ever used!
ETA: Kudo's on the E39! (pic please)
Fully agree with the stoutness of the indicator stalks. Even back in a 2000 era E39. As requested taken at SS at BMW HQ last year.ETA: Kudo's on the E39! (pic please)
tttiest of ttty drivers these days definitely has to go to the Ford Ranger, Mitsubishi Warrior pickup truck types. For some bizarre reason they’re ridiculously aggressive, and think they’re driving super cars. It’s literally insane the amount of dheads in pickup trucks having a go when I’m out and about in my TVR.
ttiest of ttty drivers these days definitely has to go to the Ford Ranger, Mitsubishi Warrior pickup truck types. For some bizarre reason they’re ridiculously aggressive, and think they’re driving super cars. It’s literally insane the amount of dheads in pickup trucks having a go when I’m out and about in my TVR. dvs_dave said:
tttiest of ttty drivers these days definitely has to go to the Ford Ranger, Mitsubishi Warrior pickup truck types. For some bizarre reason they’re ridiculously aggressive, and think they’re driving super cars. It’s literally insane the amount of dheads in pickup trucks having a go when I’m out and about in my TVR.
Ha ha yeah true, & the driver always looks like a thumb.ttiest of ttty drivers these days definitely has to go to the Ford Ranger, Mitsubishi Warrior pickup truck types. For some bizarre reason they’re ridiculously aggressive, and think they’re driving super cars. It’s literally insane the amount of dheads in pickup trucks having a go when I’m out and about in my TVR. Gericho said:
I think the unspoken law of the road is to never give way to a BMW. Then Audi joined the list. Not sure about MB.
M.B. has a more mature image, still sometimes regarded as old men’s cars. C class and E class in a dark colour has ‘ executive’ or luxury taxi/ airport run image. A pity they’ve added a hint of bling since they moved over to the large star badge which looks to have been donated by a van or a coach.GeniusOfLove said:
Rich Boy Spanner said:
The only car I genuinely find to be almost always driven by bell ends is the Audi A3. Invariably metallic grey like 99.9% of them, stench of weed, full of scrotes, st music, blacked out windows, always driven badly. They are a living stereotype. The Merc A Class takes 2nd position.
BMW's, not really, not any more.
100% this. 1 series has it as well but not to the same extent.t music, blacked out windows, always driven badly. They are a living stereotype. The Merc A Class takes 2nd position.BMW's, not really, not any more.
Even before the BMW and Mercedes moved into selling w
ky little hatches it was always the crap versions you saw being driven in a bellend-ish fashion.In my area drivers tend to fall into the following types:
Between 07:47 to 08:23 and then again at 14:42 to 16:08. The roads are the domain of the school run mum. She’s typically driving either a knackered old MPV or a bang up to date SUV. She’s in a hurry and having to deal with a kid decorating the inside of the cabin in puke, questions from her nest of little darlings, a WhatsApp conversation and Facebook posts from someone she ardently dislikes. Even threats of a nuclear apocalypse emanating from the radio will do nothing to deter her progress. Delivery drivers, builders, taxis all give way or incur her wrath; and it is a wrath which even Beelzebub would cower in front of.
Mode of transport (VW Sharon, Ford B-Max, VW Toerag / TigOne, Mitsubishi Outlandish, Range Rover (Sport), Nissan CashCow etc)
After 08:23 to approx 10:00 and again between 13:00 and 14:30. This is when the delivery drivers, van drivers, builders, taxis, bin lorries etc feel it is now safe for them to have complete command over the road. Many are trying to make up lost time for steering clear whilst school run mum was out and as a result are overly aggressive. Hard last minute breaking to park exactly outside the house they are looking for or trickling along the road hopelessly trying to see house numbers are the standard mode for the delivery drivers. The van drivers and builders are typically on an emergency run to pick up some forgotten grommet that was required for a job that they’re on. They’re fast, impatient, spatially unaware and will stop at nothing to get that precious grommet so they can finish the job and get paid. Milliseconds feel like hours to them. Taxis strangely seem to just mooch along but perhaps it’s just where I live.
Mode of transport (Transit, Sprinter, Caddy, Pious etc)
Between 10:00 to approx 12:00. The roads are the domain of the learner. They are usually driving in the middle of the road and only tuck in to prevent clipping the mirror of another learner coming the other way.
Mode of transport (Small family hatchbacks of various flavours with an L sticker)
Between 12:00 and 13:00. This is when the lunch brigade are all out and about. They can be driving anything and in a similar manner to the school run mums and van drivers they will not be held up in case the last all day breakfast sandwich has been sold and they have to get a BLT instead.
Mode of transport (Anything and everything)
Between 14:30 and 14:42. This is the time for a very specific gentleman and occasionally his wife. He’s in his 30’s, Asian and driving a RR SVR. Obviously he’s employed by JLR as a test driver because he certainly knows how to put the SVR through its paces on the public roads. I’m sure I’ve heard the Hi-Fi playing ‘Don’t stop me now’ by Queen but perhaps that’s my imagination. Occasionally his (presumed) wife follows closely in a black E something AMG. They’re obviously fans of big V8s. Even ants pause to cross the road at this time through fear of being annihilated.
Mode of transport (RR SVR / Mercedes E ? AMG)
Between 16:09 and 17:00. The apprentice is going home. The windows are wound down, an arm is hanging laconically out of the window, there’s a faaag on the go and he’s got his baseball cap on to impress the birdz and his mates. Typically he’s almost horizontal in the drivers seat and it’s only the peak of the cap which can be seen. The car is often fitted with a turbo and when the dump valve blows off there’s usually a whiff of fricassée turbo to go along with the burnt chip fat which has been liberally poured into the engine. Wheels are predominantly hand painted in black with a masonry brush, a new bangin zaust has been fitted and the suspension has been lowered to a point where the A-Pillar almost touches the ground. In a respectful nod to the days of The Fast and The Furious which coincidentally was popular in the local Odeon before he was born, the car is usually decorated with a small shopping list of after market accessories. Although he couldn’t really be called either Fast or Furious he has his own particular style. His bird on the other hand, is definitely both Fast and Furious.
Mode of transport (Male) (Ford Fiesta / Ford Focus (Occasionally a Seat / VW / Vauxhall))
Mode of transport (Female) (Something a bit ropey and Japanese, MINI or occasionally a rubbish convertible)
Between 17:00 and 18:30. Commuter territory. They’re all eager to get home to see the latest episode of Pointless on the Beeb. In the morning, they either went before school run mum or attempted to take routes to avoid her.
Mode of transport (Anything and everything)
Between 18:30 and approx 21:00. Sadly this time falls under the heading of racial profiling. Young Asian males are out and about. The windows are down, there’s a distinct whiff of a herbal, home made cigarette, the seatbelts are off, the music is playing and a phone is always attached to the hand not holding the cigarette. Their level of aggression somehow contradicts their predilection for herbal, relaxing cigarette. Something in that cigarette must be working as they clearly think they’re driving at 10mph even though to an outside observer there’s something a little wrong in driving at 80 in a 30 limit. They’re obviously doing something right because at 25 there’s no way I could have afforded a Audi RS6.
Mode of transport (Small VAG cars with turbos. Large Audi / Mercedes V8)
Between 21:00 and 01:00. The same racial profiling as above but clearly the drugs business is going very well because the cars are significantly more expensive and are usually driven with the same scant disregard for the road and anyone living within about 3 miles.
Mode of transport (Big German V8s with no silencers, shiny rims, skinny tyres, blacked out windows)
Between 01:00 and about 06:00…. Usually quiet.
Between 07:47 to 08:23 and then again at 14:42 to 16:08. The roads are the domain of the school run mum. She’s typically driving either a knackered old MPV or a bang up to date SUV. She’s in a hurry and having to deal with a kid decorating the inside of the cabin in puke, questions from her nest of little darlings, a WhatsApp conversation and Facebook posts from someone she ardently dislikes. Even threats of a nuclear apocalypse emanating from the radio will do nothing to deter her progress. Delivery drivers, builders, taxis all give way or incur her wrath; and it is a wrath which even Beelzebub would cower in front of.
Mode of transport (VW Sharon, Ford B-Max, VW Toerag / TigOne, Mitsubishi Outlandish, Range Rover (Sport), Nissan CashCow etc)
After 08:23 to approx 10:00 and again between 13:00 and 14:30. This is when the delivery drivers, van drivers, builders, taxis, bin lorries etc feel it is now safe for them to have complete command over the road. Many are trying to make up lost time for steering clear whilst school run mum was out and as a result are overly aggressive. Hard last minute breaking to park exactly outside the house they are looking for or trickling along the road hopelessly trying to see house numbers are the standard mode for the delivery drivers. The van drivers and builders are typically on an emergency run to pick up some forgotten grommet that was required for a job that they’re on. They’re fast, impatient, spatially unaware and will stop at nothing to get that precious grommet so they can finish the job and get paid. Milliseconds feel like hours to them. Taxis strangely seem to just mooch along but perhaps it’s just where I live.
Mode of transport (Transit, Sprinter, Caddy, Pious etc)
Between 10:00 to approx 12:00. The roads are the domain of the learner. They are usually driving in the middle of the road and only tuck in to prevent clipping the mirror of another learner coming the other way.
Mode of transport (Small family hatchbacks of various flavours with an L sticker)
Between 12:00 and 13:00. This is when the lunch brigade are all out and about. They can be driving anything and in a similar manner to the school run mums and van drivers they will not be held up in case the last all day breakfast sandwich has been sold and they have to get a BLT instead.
Mode of transport (Anything and everything)
Between 14:30 and 14:42. This is the time for a very specific gentleman and occasionally his wife. He’s in his 30’s, Asian and driving a RR SVR. Obviously he’s employed by JLR as a test driver because he certainly knows how to put the SVR through its paces on the public roads. I’m sure I’ve heard the Hi-Fi playing ‘Don’t stop me now’ by Queen but perhaps that’s my imagination. Occasionally his (presumed) wife follows closely in a black E something AMG. They’re obviously fans of big V8s. Even ants pause to cross the road at this time through fear of being annihilated.
Mode of transport (RR SVR / Mercedes E ? AMG)
Between 16:09 and 17:00. The apprentice is going home. The windows are wound down, an arm is hanging laconically out of the window, there’s a faaag on the go and he’s got his baseball cap on to impress the birdz and his mates. Typically he’s almost horizontal in the drivers seat and it’s only the peak of the cap which can be seen. The car is often fitted with a turbo and when the dump valve blows off there’s usually a whiff of fricassée turbo to go along with the burnt chip fat which has been liberally poured into the engine. Wheels are predominantly hand painted in black with a masonry brush, a new bangin zaust has been fitted and the suspension has been lowered to a point where the A-Pillar almost touches the ground. In a respectful nod to the days of The Fast and The Furious which coincidentally was popular in the local Odeon before he was born, the car is usually decorated with a small shopping list of after market accessories. Although he couldn’t really be called either Fast or Furious he has his own particular style. His bird on the other hand, is definitely both Fast and Furious.
Mode of transport (Male) (Ford Fiesta / Ford Focus (Occasionally a Seat / VW / Vauxhall))
Mode of transport (Female) (Something a bit ropey and Japanese, MINI or occasionally a rubbish convertible)
Between 17:00 and 18:30. Commuter territory. They’re all eager to get home to see the latest episode of Pointless on the Beeb. In the morning, they either went before school run mum or attempted to take routes to avoid her.
Mode of transport (Anything and everything)
Between 18:30 and approx 21:00. Sadly this time falls under the heading of racial profiling. Young Asian males are out and about. The windows are down, there’s a distinct whiff of a herbal, home made cigarette, the seatbelts are off, the music is playing and a phone is always attached to the hand not holding the cigarette. Their level of aggression somehow contradicts their predilection for herbal, relaxing cigarette. Something in that cigarette must be working as they clearly think they’re driving at 10mph even though to an outside observer there’s something a little wrong in driving at 80 in a 30 limit. They’re obviously doing something right because at 25 there’s no way I could have afforded a Audi RS6.
Mode of transport (Small VAG cars with turbos. Large Audi / Mercedes V8)
Between 21:00 and 01:00. The same racial profiling as above but clearly the drugs business is going very well because the cars are significantly more expensive and are usually driven with the same scant disregard for the road and anyone living within about 3 miles.
Mode of transport (Big German V8s with no silencers, shiny rims, skinny tyres, blacked out windows)
Between 01:00 and about 06:00…. Usually quiet.
Edited by RustyMX5 on Tuesday 14th May 14:56
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