Massive rise in P plates

Massive rise in P plates

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monthou

4,648 posts

51 months

Tuesday 14th May
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jwilliamsm3 said:
It's always nervous crap drivers that put them on
Why wouldn't you want to know the driver in front is possibly nervous and crap inexperienced?

Maybe there should be a 'C' plate for confident crap drivers.


kharma45

222 posts

74 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Bobupndown said:
Here in Northern Ireland when you pass your driving test you automatically have to display orange R plates, R for Restricted driver for a year, still limited to 45 mph the same as learners. Gives newly passed drivers experience driving on their own but still speed limited and let's other drivers be aware that the driver has limited experience. I think it's a sensible idea.
45mph limit is being removed

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/ma...

https://www.niassembly.gov.uk/assembly-business/le...



Under the scheme, there will be a mandatory minimum learning period of six months, the removal of the 45 mph speed restriction and allow for some motorway training.

A programme for training and learner logbook will be introduced as will passenger restrictions on new drivers along with the increase in the R plate period from its current one year to an unspecified time but possibly two years in line with previous recommendations.

Under initial plans, it was proposed to introduce a limit on young passengers being carried by drivers under the age of 24 for the first six months after they pass their test.

Only one person aged 14 to 20 will be allowed on board between 11pm and 6am, unless they are immediate family members or an experienced driver aged at least 21 is also a front-seat passenger, the original GDL scheme proposed.



whimsical ninja

158 posts

28 months

Tuesday 14th May
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I had always thought that the P plates were only supposed to be used by people going through a formal Pass Plus course of instruction (doesn't it have a night drive, and before they changed the rules it used to have motorway driving). O always assumed they were used by more responsible new drivers who wanted to learn to be better

ThingsBehindTheSun

259 posts

32 months

Tuesday 14th May
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My girlfriend is Australian, in Victoria you have to have red P plates for the first year (if you are under 21) and green P plates for a further three years.

She said she actually liked having the plates on the car as it showed you were a young driver and hence men checked you out more.

"#MeToo"

Silvanus

5,388 posts

24 months

Tuesday 14th May
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monthou said:
jwilliamsm3 said:
It's always nervous crap drivers that put them on
Why wouldn't you want to know the driver in front is possibly nervous and crap inexperienced?

Maybe there should be a 'C' plate for confident crap drivers.
I thought the C meant something else

spoodler

2,114 posts

156 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Just treat every driver as if they are inexperienced and likely to do something illogical and you won't have to worry about "P" plates. smile

Pit Pony

8,809 posts

122 months

Tuesday 14th May
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iphonedyou said:
Why do you think people look like a plank with them?
P PLATES offer the dheads of the world to target the
Inexperienced for their road rage and aggressive bullying.
Achieving the exact opposite of their intention.

MadCaptainJack

697 posts

41 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Sebbak said:
What we really need are D plates for all the dheads that can't drive to save their lives and have no interest in doing so either. But that's another discussion entirely lol
That’s a really good idea.

Pit Pony

8,809 posts

122 months

Tuesday 14th May
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dibblecorse said:
Lester H said:
ThingsBehindTheSun said:
dibblecorse said:
We have those, there are two types, can be quite small on some cars ...


Surely the four cock rings on the front is enough of a clue that the driver is going to drive in an aggressive and selfish manner?
It’s not because, despite the stereotype, many Audis ,particularly the smaller ones, are driven by . placid types; girls who don’t want a Fiat 500 or a MINi, but wish to project a sophisticated image, and thus pay the premium over a Polo. There is also a demographic, middle class, to use a cliche, who pay 3k over and above the equivalent Golf , just to have a nicer interior and, of course, the badge.
Lol, not sure if you're deluded or a young girl that drives an A1
Daughter wanted an A1, but her boyfriend has a Fabia, and keeps reminding her it's probably the same car.

ThingsBehindTheSun

259 posts

32 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Pit Pony said:
Daughter wanted an A1, but her boyfriend has a Fabia, and keeps reminding her it's probably the same car.
Difference between a "prestige" and a white goods car? More sound deadening.

fooman

201 posts

65 months

Tuesday 14th May
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I've no problem with P plates but I run with assumption any driver could do something unexpected and don't particularly find them to be different. I think there's a bit of bias confirmation going on if you think P plate drivers are worse.

Neither of my kids used P plates after passing they both preferred to go incognito, even L plates are a magnet to a certain kind of throbber they argued a P would be no better.

monthou

4,648 posts

51 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Silvanus said:
monthou said:
jwilliamsm3 said:
It's always nervous crap drivers that put them on
Why wouldn't you want to know the driver in front is possibly nervous and crap inexperienced?

Maybe there should be a 'C' plate for confident crap drivers.
I thought the C meant something else
Too subtle?

Bobupndown

1,870 posts

44 months

Tuesday 14th May
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kharma45 said:
Bobupndown said:
Here in Northern Ireland when you pass your driving test you automatically have to display orange R plates, R for Restricted driver for a year, still limited to 45 mph the same as learners. Gives newly passed drivers experience driving on their own but still speed limited and let's other drivers be aware that the driver has limited experience. I think it's a sensible idea.
45mph limit is being removed

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/ma...

https://www.niassembly.gov.uk/assembly-business/le...



Under the scheme, there will be a mandatory minimum learning period of six months, the removal of the 45 mph speed restriction and allow for some motorway training.

A programme for training and learner logbook will be introduced as will passenger restrictions on new drivers along with the increase in the R plate period from its current one year to an unspecified time but possibly two years in line with previous recommendations.

Under initial plans, it was proposed to introduce a limit on young passengers being carried by drivers under the age of 24 for the first six months after they pass their test.

Only one person aged 14 to 20 will be allowed on board between 11pm and 6am, unless they are immediate family members or an experienced driver aged at least 21 is also a front-seat passenger, the original GDL scheme proposed.

No word of when this proposal will be implemented though. My youngest son turned 17 yesterday and began his driving adventure. Same rules as ever in NI currently apply to him.

CKY

1,455 posts

16 months

Tuesday 14th May
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119 said:
jwilliamsm3 said:
I don't know if it's just me, but has anyone else noticed the huge increase in the number of P plates being stuck on peoples cars recently?
Considering they aren't madatory after passing a test, i can't see why anyone would want one i think they make you look like a plank.

I'm seeing about 5/6 a day now, used to hardly see any
What’s the problem exactly?

Are you offended?
What's the weather like where you are today?

Going on holiday anywhere nice this year?

Isn't posting inane, irrelevant questions totally unrelated to a forum thread fun?

monthou

4,648 posts

51 months

Tuesday 14th May
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CKY said:
119 said:
jwilliamsm3 said:
I don't know if it's just me, but has anyone else noticed the huge increase in the number of P plates being stuck on peoples cars recently?
Considering they aren't madatory after passing a test, i can't see why anyone would want one i think they make you look like a plank.

I'm seeing about 5/6 a day now, used to hardly see any
What’s the problem exactly?

Are you offended?
What's the weather like where you are today?

Going on holiday anywhere nice this year?

Isn't posting inane, irrelevant questions totally unrelated to a forum thread fun?
Except the question posed is on-topic.

captain_cynic

12,247 posts

96 months

Tuesday 14th May
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I'd bet it's parents forcing their kids to have them on.

Hoofy said:
Maybe it's being encouraged because road rage has gone up and people are less tolerant than ever?
That's exactly why I'd not want them on my car.

I call them Pavlov's Plates because as soon as some drivers see them they start frothing at the mouth.

I learned to drive in Australia so I had to have them on my car for two years after getting my license (legal requirement) and people were utterly aggressive dicks. The day I took them off there was an immediate and huge change in attitudes towards me. Same car (Hoonda Integra), same driver, same superannuation scheme... Nothing changes except I didn't have P plates.

WA was relatively lax, I only had to have them for two years, I believe some of the eastern states require them for 4 years (because blaming young people is a vote winner)..

My experience with them is why I'm opposed to them, if you're good enough to drive unsupervised then you shouldn't need to "warn" other drivers. If you're not, you shouldn't be given a license.

s94wht

1,585 posts

60 months

Tuesday 14th May
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jwilliamsm3 said:
It's always nervous crap drivers that put them on, like wearing a dunce cap. Why put one on when there's no law requiring you do so
Maybe they're proud, same as the little green tags on EV number plates

DaveCWK

2,012 posts

175 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Yes OP I have noticed this - rather randomly I saw 2 cars in a row at some lights with P plates yesterday! Has some influencer or similar started promoting them.

untakenname

4,976 posts

193 months

Tuesday 14th May
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I wonder if some expect to be given more leniency from the law with them on? I've seen a car nearby that's had the plates on for at least a couple of years now.

In a similar vein I've noticed quite a few black box apology stickers on the back of cars now.

MadCaptainJack said:
Sebbak said:
What we really need are D plates for all the dheads that can't drive to save their lives and have no interest in doing so either. But that's another discussion entirely lol
That’s a really good idea.
Already exists with the baby on board stickers, bonus points if the placement of the sticker restricts the view out of the rear view mirror.

Rich Boy Spanner

1,356 posts

131 months

Tuesday 14th May
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s94wht said:
jwilliamsm3 said:
It's always nervous crap drivers that put them on, like wearing a dunce cap. Why put one on when there's no law requiring you do so
Maybe they're proud, same as the little green tags on EV number plates
Absolutely. Before my company EV turned up I called the lease company 100 times to make sure it would have the green stripe on the number plates. Now that I have them they make me ever so proud because it matters so much to me. It's all we EV drivers think about.