Massive rise in P plates
Discussion
Bobupndown said:
Here in Northern Ireland when you pass your driving test you automatically have to display orange R plates, R for Restricted driver for a year, still limited to 45 mph the same as learners. Gives newly passed drivers experience driving on their own but still speed limited and let's other drivers be aware that the driver has limited experience. I think it's a sensible idea.
45mph limit is being removed https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/ma...
https://www.niassembly.gov.uk/assembly-business/le...
Under the scheme, there will be a mandatory minimum learning period of six months, the removal of the 45 mph speed restriction and allow for some motorway training.
A programme for training and learner logbook will be introduced as will passenger restrictions on new drivers along with the increase in the R plate period from its current one year to an unspecified time but possibly two years in line with previous recommendations.
Under initial plans, it was proposed to introduce a limit on young passengers being carried by drivers under the age of 24 for the first six months after they pass their test.
Only one person aged 14 to 20 will be allowed on board between 11pm and 6am, unless they are immediate family members or an experienced driver aged at least 21 is also a front-seat passenger, the original GDL scheme proposed.
I had always thought that the P plates were only supposed to be used by people going through a formal Pass Plus course of instruction (doesn't it have a night drive, and before they changed the rules it used to have motorway driving). O always assumed they were used by more responsible new drivers who wanted to learn to be better
My girlfriend is Australian, in Victoria you have to have red P plates for the first year (if you are under 21) and green P plates for a further three years.
She said she actually liked having the plates on the car as it showed you were a young driver and hence men checked you out more.
"#MeToo"
She said she actually liked having the plates on the car as it showed you were a young driver and hence men checked you out more.
"#MeToo"
dibblecorse said:
Lester H said:
ThingsBehindTheSun said:
It’s not because, despite the stereotype, many Audis ,particularly the smaller ones, are driven by . placid types; girls who don’t want a Fiat 500 or a MINi, but wish to project a sophisticated image, and thus pay the premium over a Polo. There is also a demographic, middle class, to use a cliche, who pay 3k over and above the equivalent Golf , just to have a nicer interior and, of course, the badge. I've no problem with P plates but I run with assumption any driver could do something unexpected and don't particularly find them to be different. I think there's a bit of bias confirmation going on if you think P plate drivers are worse.
Neither of my kids used P plates after passing they both preferred to go incognito, even L plates are a magnet to a certain kind of throbber they argued a P would be no better.
Neither of my kids used P plates after passing they both preferred to go incognito, even L plates are a magnet to a certain kind of throbber they argued a P would be no better.
Silvanus said:
monthou said:
jwilliamsm3 said:
It's always nervous crap drivers that put them on
Why wouldn't you want to know the driver in front is possibly nervous and Maybe there should be a 'C' plate for confident crap drivers.
kharma45 said:
Bobupndown said:
Here in Northern Ireland when you pass your driving test you automatically have to display orange R plates, R for Restricted driver for a year, still limited to 45 mph the same as learners. Gives newly passed drivers experience driving on their own but still speed limited and let's other drivers be aware that the driver has limited experience. I think it's a sensible idea.
45mph limit is being removed https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/ma...
https://www.niassembly.gov.uk/assembly-business/le...
Under the scheme, there will be a mandatory minimum learning period of six months, the removal of the 45 mph speed restriction and allow for some motorway training.
A programme for training and learner logbook will be introduced as will passenger restrictions on new drivers along with the increase in the R plate period from its current one year to an unspecified time but possibly two years in line with previous recommendations.
Under initial plans, it was proposed to introduce a limit on young passengers being carried by drivers under the age of 24 for the first six months after they pass their test.
Only one person aged 14 to 20 will be allowed on board between 11pm and 6am, unless they are immediate family members or an experienced driver aged at least 21 is also a front-seat passenger, the original GDL scheme proposed.
119 said:
jwilliamsm3 said:
I don't know if it's just me, but has anyone else noticed the huge increase in the number of P plates being stuck on peoples cars recently?
Considering they aren't madatory after passing a test, i can't see why anyone would want one i think they make you look like a plank.
I'm seeing about 5/6 a day now, used to hardly see any
What’s the problem exactly?Considering they aren't madatory after passing a test, i can't see why anyone would want one i think they make you look like a plank.
I'm seeing about 5/6 a day now, used to hardly see any
Are you offended?
Going on holiday anywhere nice this year?
Isn't posting inane, irrelevant questions totally unrelated to a forum thread fun?
CKY said:
119 said:
jwilliamsm3 said:
I don't know if it's just me, but has anyone else noticed the huge increase in the number of P plates being stuck on peoples cars recently?
Considering they aren't madatory after passing a test, i can't see why anyone would want one i think they make you look like a plank.
I'm seeing about 5/6 a day now, used to hardly see any
What’s the problem exactly?Considering they aren't madatory after passing a test, i can't see why anyone would want one i think they make you look like a plank.
I'm seeing about 5/6 a day now, used to hardly see any
Are you offended?
Going on holiday anywhere nice this year?
Isn't posting inane, irrelevant questions totally unrelated to a forum thread fun?
I'd bet it's parents forcing their kids to have them on.
I call them Pavlov's Plates because as soon as some drivers see them they start frothing at the mouth.
I learned to drive in Australia so I had to have them on my car for two years after getting my license (legal requirement) and people were utterly aggressive dicks. The day I took them off there was an immediate and huge change in attitudes towards me. Same car (Hoonda Integra), same driver, same superannuation scheme... Nothing changes except I didn't have P plates.
WA was relatively lax, I only had to have them for two years, I believe some of the eastern states require them for 4 years (because blaming young people is a vote winner)..
My experience with them is why I'm opposed to them, if you're good enough to drive unsupervised then you shouldn't need to "warn" other drivers. If you're not, you shouldn't be given a license.
Hoofy said:
Maybe it's being encouraged because road rage has gone up and people are less tolerant than ever?
That's exactly why I'd not want them on my car.I call them Pavlov's Plates because as soon as some drivers see them they start frothing at the mouth.
I learned to drive in Australia so I had to have them on my car for two years after getting my license (legal requirement) and people were utterly aggressive dicks. The day I took them off there was an immediate and huge change in attitudes towards me. Same car (Hoonda Integra), same driver, same superannuation scheme... Nothing changes except I didn't have P plates.
WA was relatively lax, I only had to have them for two years, I believe some of the eastern states require them for 4 years (because blaming young people is a vote winner)..
My experience with them is why I'm opposed to them, if you're good enough to drive unsupervised then you shouldn't need to "warn" other drivers. If you're not, you shouldn't be given a license.
I wonder if some expect to be given more leniency from the law with them on? I've seen a car nearby that's had the plates on for at least a couple of years now.
In a similar vein I've noticed quite a few black box apology stickers on the back of cars now.
Already exists with the baby on board stickers, bonus points if the placement of the sticker restricts the view out of the rear view mirror.
In a similar vein I've noticed quite a few black box apology stickers on the back of cars now.
MadCaptainJack said:
Sebbak said:
What we really need are D plates for all the dheads that can't drive to save their lives and have no interest in doing so either. But that's another discussion entirely lol
That’s a really good idea. s94wht said:
jwilliamsm3 said:
It's always nervous crap drivers that put them on, like wearing a dunce cap. Why put one on when there's no law requiring you do so
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