High mileage new cars - engine lifespan?
Discussion
Morning,
I am far from a car expert, there are alot of nice bigger motors available under £10k which is my budget.
I do on average 10k miles a year.
I have been toiling with the idea of buying something around 2015/2017 with high mileage
Ie
autotrader .co.uk/car-details/202307199850242?atmobcid=soc3
This maybe a silly question but is it likely the car will pack in overall before you have to worry about the engine / mileage or is it best staying clear of overly high mileage cars for the age ?
I am far from a car expert, there are alot of nice bigger motors available under £10k which is my budget.
I do on average 10k miles a year.
I have been toiling with the idea of buying something around 2015/2017 with high mileage
Ie
autotrader .co.uk/car-details/202307199850242?atmobcid=soc3
This maybe a silly question but is it likely the car will pack in overall before you have to worry about the engine / mileage or is it best staying clear of overly high mileage cars for the age ?
Hi there,
My personal view is that engines are usually good even at high mileage.
However I'd be more concerned with other things on the vehicle such as suspension, bushes, brakes, air-conditioning unit etc.
Depending on the service history you might be able to see if any of these have had issues in the past and if they've been dealt with.
My personal view is that engines are usually good even at high mileage.
However I'd be more concerned with other things on the vehicle such as suspension, bushes, brakes, air-conditioning unit etc.
Depending on the service history you might be able to see if any of these have had issues in the past and if they've been dealt with.
If properly serviced it will last for another 100k miles easily. Buy on condition not miles, although you need to be aware that with miles come wear, so stuff like suspension bushes and links will be nearer the end of their life than a low milage car. This may mean bigger bills going forward.
Crober33 said:
Morning,
I am far from a car expert, there are alot of nice bigger motors available under £10k which is my budget.
I do on average 10k miles a year.
I have been toiling with the idea of buying something around 2015/2017 with high mileage
Ie
autotrader .co.uk/car-details/202307199850242?atmobcid=soc3
This maybe a silly question but is it likely the car will pack in overall before you have to worry about the engine / mileage or is it best staying clear of overly high mileage cars for the age ?
If you want trouble, could not be more nail on head with your choice.I am far from a car expert, there are alot of nice bigger motors available under £10k which is my budget.
I do on average 10k miles a year.
I have been toiling with the idea of buying something around 2015/2017 with high mileage
Ie
autotrader .co.uk/car-details/202307199850242?atmobcid=soc3
This maybe a silly question but is it likely the car will pack in overall before you have to worry about the engine / mileage or is it best staying clear of overly high mileage cars for the age ?
Whilst I wouldnt be looking to buy a high-mileage example of the car in the ad, most of the time a well-looked after modern car (let's say, anything from 2003-2005 onwards?) will go for a long long time. If you want to keep it for a long time, then change the oil and filter every 6 months, keep the car washed (particularly in winter with the salt on the roads), perhaps consider some under-body treatment to help too.
Whatever you get, if it's got high miles on it then have it looked over thouroughly - engines are easy(ish) to maintain - fresh fluids (oil and coolant!) are the key, and with a high mileage car you'll know it would have spent more of its life at optimal operating temperature and probably under constant-load (motorway) conditions - but the other bits like the suspension parts, exhaust, brakes etc can be left ignored. So have those checked and refreshed.
no reason why any modrn car, well looked after, shouldnt go to 200,000 miles and beyond easily.
Whatever you get, if it's got high miles on it then have it looked over thouroughly - engines are easy(ish) to maintain - fresh fluids (oil and coolant!) are the key, and with a high mileage car you'll know it would have spent more of its life at optimal operating temperature and probably under constant-load (motorway) conditions - but the other bits like the suspension parts, exhaust, brakes etc can be left ignored. So have those checked and refreshed.
no reason why any modrn car, well looked after, shouldnt go to 200,000 miles and beyond easily.
Crober33 said:
Morning,
I am far from a car expert, there are alot of nice bigger motors available under £10k which is my budget.
I do on average 10k miles a year.
I have been toiling with the idea of buying something around 2015/2017 with high mileage
Ie
autotrader .co.uk/car-details/202307199850242?atmobcid=soc3
This maybe a silly question but is it likely the car will pack in overall before you have to worry about the engine / mileage or is it best staying clear of overly high mileage cars for the age ?
Likely to need a lot of maintenance, cars have an economic design life of 150k miles. Cars that make it to 200k miles are a fraction of 1%. As long as you are aware you are buying the car equivalent of a geriatric and aren’t expecting trouble free miles, then why not, esp if you are handy with a set of spanners, can swap in reconditioned parts etc.I am far from a car expert, there are alot of nice bigger motors available under £10k which is my budget.
I do on average 10k miles a year.
I have been toiling with the idea of buying something around 2015/2017 with high mileage
Ie
autotrader .co.uk/car-details/202307199850242?atmobcid=soc3
This maybe a silly question but is it likely the car will pack in overall before you have to worry about the engine / mileage or is it best staying clear of overly high mileage cars for the age ?
Edited by wyson on Monday 24th July 13:49
N111BJG said:
Judging by some examples we see from countries where stuff is further apart eg US, Australia a well maintained car will often achieve 200,000 + miles, its not usually the drivetrain that fails first.
Yup, my 2007 workhorse Merc has 270k on the clock. Engine and gearbox are genuinely as good as they've ever been. It's other stuff failing that will see it go.
I'm really confident it won't expire at the side of the road, it's last drive will be into a UK MOT station and I'll get a list of things that need doing for a pass that I just won't justify the spend and leave it there.
It'll then either be dismantled and harvested for spares, or exported to a country where it will keep running through a combo of cheaper DIY labour to sort the consumables that all need doing / where the weather won't accelerate the tin worm setting in / because the SRS dash light being on doesn't legislate it off the road in that part of the world.
You can look up manufacturer extended warranty schemes and get quotes, those will give you a ball park figure of what they expect to pay out.
I haven’t checked LR’s schemes but this car would be way beyond any manufacturer extended warranty scheme I know of, perhaps get quote from them for the oldest / highest mileage they will cover for that model? Bet it will be 4 figures.
I haven’t checked LR’s schemes but this car would be way beyond any manufacturer extended warranty scheme I know of, perhaps get quote from them for the oldest / highest mileage they will cover for that model? Bet it will be 4 figures.
Edited by wyson on Monday 24th July 13:54
In theory I'd happily run a modern car to 200k+ the engines are so good that as long as you avoid problematic models, with proper servicing they should be problem free.
...JLR OTOH, no. Unreliable with lots of failures and plenty at ridiculously low mileages. While you may "roll the dice" and get one that is perfectly reliable and lasts for years without issue it would very much be a lottery.
That specific model I wouldn't risk a low mileage one with full manufacturer warranty, plenty of tales of new engines required!
...JLR OTOH, no. Unreliable with lots of failures and plenty at ridiculously low mileages. While you may "roll the dice" and get one that is perfectly reliable and lasts for years without issue it would very much be a lottery.
That specific model I wouldn't risk a low mileage one with full manufacturer warranty, plenty of tales of new engines required!
Suggests high average speed (motorway miles), so you'll more likely be open to failure modes related to things like High rotation count on engine and transmission - bearing wear, bore wear, shaft wear. You likely won't get as many things related to ageing of components - like rubbers, plastics and things that might do a lot of heat-cycles or calendar ageing mechanisms.
Most of the mileage was racked up in the first four years.
The "engine sounds rough" advisory a few years ago after the MIL looks like there were some issues that got sorted but no change in date of mot so probably same owner and not sold on with a problem.
Would JLR ever be on an extended oil change? 20k instead of 10k ie just once per year?
I would also be looking to change diff oils etc buying a 4x4 at any mileage over 50k.
They have a few cars listed on eBay so obviously a trader owns it now. No feedback as a seller on there for a while, and feedback for buying (salvage) parts on there.
The pictures are also taken outside a factory where there's just factory car parking. No obvious car lot in immediate area.
Makes you wonder who you are actually dealing with.
The "engine sounds rough" advisory a few years ago after the MIL looks like there were some issues that got sorted but no change in date of mot so probably same owner and not sold on with a problem.
Would JLR ever be on an extended oil change? 20k instead of 10k ie just once per year?
I would also be looking to change diff oils etc buying a 4x4 at any mileage over 50k.
They have a few cars listed on eBay so obviously a trader owns it now. No feedback as a seller on there for a while, and feedback for buying (salvage) parts on there.
The pictures are also taken outside a factory where there's just factory car parking. No obvious car lot in immediate area.
Makes you wonder who you are actually dealing with.
Edited by cootuk on Monday 24th July 14:36
My dad has used his last couple cars daily for work racking up 350,000 + miles
On the last two both times its been other areas that have failed so often that its non cost effective to fix
Engine on both were still solid. Just serviced every 10k
Current Jag XE 2.0 diesel with circa 100k has got a rattly cam chain being done under warranty but otherwise again fine so far
On the last two both times its been other areas that have failed so often that its non cost effective to fix
Engine on both were still solid. Just serviced every 10k
Current Jag XE 2.0 diesel with circa 100k has got a rattly cam chain being done under warranty but otherwise again fine so far
The link doesn't work for me
However it depends on the car, who's driven it, who's serviced it, a bit of luck and how much you are prepared to spend maintaining it
These days it's rarely engines that are the problem - DSG / auto gearboxes / DMF / DPF / Injectors / HPFP etc regularly break
Are you happy paying for £2k of injectors, £1500 pump, £1000 turbo to maintain your 300k car ?
My wife's Audi 1.9 TDi ran perfectly to 150k but then the AC went £1k then the gearbox went £2k now that might have been the end of the issues but on a £5k car I'd had enough and sold it
However it depends on the car, who's driven it, who's serviced it, a bit of luck and how much you are prepared to spend maintaining it
These days it's rarely engines that are the problem - DSG / auto gearboxes / DMF / DPF / Injectors / HPFP etc regularly break
Are you happy paying for £2k of injectors, £1500 pump, £1000 turbo to maintain your 300k car ?
My wife's Audi 1.9 TDi ran perfectly to 150k but then the AC went £1k then the gearbox went £2k now that might have been the end of the issues but on a £5k car I'd had enough and sold it
Range Rover ? No way.
Bradford?
It used to be that high miles cars were good buys, but these days the price doesnt really justify it.
It used to be that engines with chains were the way to go, but now I'd look to belts. Too much cost cutting means BMW/merc/jag/lr have all had big expensive issues with chains that are uneconomic to fix and effectively write the cars off.
Bradford?
It used to be that high miles cars were good buys, but these days the price doesnt really justify it.
It used to be that engines with chains were the way to go, but now I'd look to belts. Too much cost cutting means BMW/merc/jag/lr have all had big expensive issues with chains that are uneconomic to fix and effectively write the cars off.
Fastdruid said:
KTMsm said:
The link doesn't work for me
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2023071998502422015 Land Rover Discovery Sport 2.0 TD4 SE Tech (180 ps) with 128k on.
OP - Reliability and Land Rover are opposites
I wouldn't buy a new one let alone an old one
If you don't know that much then frankly you shouldn't be buying your own car, much less a high mileage one
Petrol japanese cars are reliable - Lexus GS300 or 400 will do 300k with fewer issues than a Land Rover will cover 50k
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