RE: Super-fast for £50k | Six of the Best
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Hoofy said:
It's the acceleration that would scare me. 
My old 650bhp Skyline GTR was bad enough.
You do get used to it and still giggle a lot. The amount of times you can use full throttle is very small. The 570s is very similar acceleration with the light weight, however it can and will break traction in most gears in damp or cool weather. I've also had a go in an R34 with sequential box and nearly a 1000bhp, that wasn't really enjoyable tbh. My old 650bhp Skyline GTR was bad enough.
hungry_hog said:
Jex said:
Ferrari 456?
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15717741
Quite a dated looking car, which is strange when the 355 (same era) still looks so good.https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15717741
Small wheels and large overhangs and horrible rear lights.
One lad I played 5 a side with had one and the bonnet (for whatever reason) needed replacing. 12k!
I think people buy them, realise you need to sell a flat in Chelsea to finance the running costs and quickly get bored.
FWIW I do like a 456.
200Plus Club said:
Hoofy said:
It's the acceleration that would scare me.
My old 650bhp Skyline GTR was bad enough.
You do get used to it and still giggle a lot. The amount of times you can use full throttle is very small. The 570s is very similar acceleration with the light weight, however it can and will break traction in most gears in damp or cool weather. I've also had a go in an R34 with sequential box and nearly a 1000bhp, that wasn't really enjoyable tbh. My old 650bhp Skyline GTR was bad enough.
200Plus Club said:
Hoofy said:
800bhp in a 996 Turbo? I find a completely standard car is more than quick enough and can't imagine how terrifying it must be to have double the power when you bury the throttle into the carpet!
I've done 203mph in a tuned 997, it's actually very easy to drive and very stable. Gets a bit squirmy under braking perhaps but otherwise not a major worry. The acceleration is relentless, pretty similar to a tuned BMW 140i :-)
Glenn63 said:
That is fast, much faster than an M3 but if only you’d been in a GT4 you may have touched 205mph.
Sold it, just a tad too slow. Handling and brakes sublime, traction sublime, carbon buckets were superb, just a beautiful car but ultimately lacking that mid range punch. 570s has it in spades, along with fantastic handling and brakes, plus of course is completely stock, straight out the box supercar performance. You can pick an early one up from £75k so not actually that much more than this thread selection. AceRockatansky said:
bodhi said:
AceRockatansky said:
I've had 4 out of those 6. 3 at the same time. Still got the 996, though it's fairly well modified now.
Not sure what I'm more impressed with - the cars in the garages or the M135i with L Plates on it 
This is probably one of the first lists I could happily own any of them, apart from possibly the Caterham (respect them massively but not really my thing). For me it would be a coin flip between the Alfa and the M3, although I may keep flipping until the M3 comes up.
Was a great car and I was surprised how quick it was, though it wasn't the most confidence inspiring rear end. She passed her test in that car!
Bit OT (or is it?) but I've always been fascinated by the comments of the unruly back end on the M135i/M140i, as I've got an E82 with a similar set up and I find it the most planted BMW I've driven. Granted I'm about 60 horses down on a stock M135i, but you have to be doing something ridiculously stupid in the 125i to get it to misbehave - is the the torque rather than the power that causes it issues?
bodhi said:
AceRockatansky said:
bodhi said:
AceRockatansky said:
I've had 4 out of those 6. 3 at the same time. Still got the 996, though it's fairly well modified now.
Not sure what I'm more impressed with - the cars in the garages or the M135i with L Plates on it This is probably one of the first lists I could happily own any of them, apart from possibly the Caterham (respect them massively but not really my thing). For me it would be a coin flip between the Alfa and the M3, although I may keep flipping until the M3 comes up.
Was a great car and I was surprised how quick it was, though it wasn't the most confidence inspiring rear end. She passed her test in that car!
Bit OT (or is it?) but I've always been fascinated by the comments of the unruly back end on the M135i/M140i, as I've got an E82 with a similar set up and I find it the most planted BMW I've driven. Granted I'm about 60 horses down on a stock M135i, but you have to be doing something ridiculously stupid in the 125i to get it to misbehave - is the the torque rather than the power that causes it issues?
Driven most in the list and the GTR remains the best out of those for me in terms of out of the box specialness (espec speed and handling). It must be about 6 years on now and I simply haven't found something that does things the way it does.
Been tempted by a 996 turbo for years - I have a 996 X51 C2, the lights with the aero kit, I think are some of my favourite on a 911 (unpopular opinion, I know). I can't help but think that all wheel drive - 00's era Porsche style, and a couple of turbos would ruin what I enjoy about the 911, without coming remotely close to what the GTR does so well.
Biggest problem I find with the GTR is that you do need to have them on track to explore what they can actually do, it's easy to write them off as 'boring' at road speeds, but dialled up a few notches they really come alive.
Mine's modified so maybe not a fair comparason but even the standard ones I've driven have been brilliant.
Been tempted by a 996 turbo for years - I have a 996 X51 C2, the lights with the aero kit, I think are some of my favourite on a 911 (unpopular opinion, I know). I can't help but think that all wheel drive - 00's era Porsche style, and a couple of turbos would ruin what I enjoy about the 911, without coming remotely close to what the GTR does so well.
Biggest problem I find with the GTR is that you do need to have them on track to explore what they can actually do, it's easy to write them off as 'boring' at road speeds, but dialled up a few notches they really come alive.
Mine's modified so maybe not a fair comparason but even the standard ones I've driven have been brilliant.
supacool1 said:
cerb4.5lee said:
I'm enjoying the M140i banter on this thread!
Statement of fact, Lee. Best Car ever, once modded. Better than an M3, Nicer to drive than a 911 Turbo...
Glenn63 said:
Wrong on both statements, never said ‘better’ than M3 but quicker round a track and never mention a 911 turbo which be in a different league of performance all round. But you continue miss reading threads
Arguments aside, and ignoring the performance (power/acceleration), how does a stock 140 feel to drive compared to a stock 118?Hoofy said:
Glenn63 said:
Wrong on both statements, never said ‘better’ than M3 but quicker round a track and never mention a 911 turbo which be in a different league of performance all round. But you continue miss reading threads
Arguments aside, and ignoring the performance (power/acceleration), how does a stock 140 feel to drive compared to a stock 118?cerb4.5lee said:
Hoofy said:
Glenn63 said:
Wrong on both statements, never said ‘better’ than M3 but quicker round a track and never mention a 911 turbo which be in a different league of performance all round. But you continue miss reading threads
Arguments aside, and ignoring the performance (power/acceleration), how does a stock 140 feel to drive compared to a stock 118?cerb4.5lee said:
The same, but just a bit faster I'd imagine? I've only driven a 118 in fairness though. However J4CKO and Court_S on here didn't reckon all that much to their M140i's as an overall package for example though.
The guy I know with who has a heavily modified 140i regularly slates the handling of his as garbage despite the mods, in terms of traction and confidence. It is extremely quick for what it is to be fair, and he loved the handling /brakes of my GT4. Key thing is the person who owns the car likes it, whether others think something else is better is irrelevant. A lot of people feel more emotionally invested when they have modded a car and naturally may view things through rose tinted glasses, but It doesn’t matter. Enjoy what you have in good health and keep smiling.
Glenn63 said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Hoofy said:
Glenn63 said:
Wrong on both statements, never said ‘better’ than M3 but quicker round a track and never mention a 911 turbo which be in a different league of performance all round. But you continue miss reading threads
Arguments aside, and ignoring the performance (power/acceleration), how does a stock 140 feel to drive compared to a stock 118?200Plus Club said:
cerb4.5lee said:
The same, but just a bit faster I'd imagine? I've only driven a 118 in fairness though. However J4CKO and Court_S on here didn't reckon all that much to their M140i's as an overall package for example though.
The guy I know with who has a heavily modified 140i regularly slates the handling of his as garbage despite the mods, in terms of traction and confidence. It is extremely quick for what it is to be fair, and he loved the handling /brakes of my GT4. Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff