RE: New Cupra Tavascan officially unveiled
Discussion
When you look at the design, it's actually quite smart. Well-proportioned and blends relatively well, as a shape goes.
For me, the problem is, it's a pretty big car that's designed to look sporty, and given what the marketing bumph says, it'll be competing in a pretty crowded market segment. Given that when I searched "Cupra Tavascan" in Google, one of the first things that popped up was "is Cupra a Chinese brand?" - perhaps they need to market themselves before throwing car designs at us. I'm sure some of the older hands here will agree that this was the downfall of some manufacturers/brands over the years.
Also, ergonomically it seems a little odd. It's meant to be an SUV / practical car, yet the rear door handles look like they open upwards, or at least horizontally, yet they're at a height where kids can't let themselves into the car. You spend £50k on a posh Cupra and you have to get out to open the door for your kids? Something isn't right there.
Out of interest I shared this with a colleague, as she's been thinking of going electric. Her take was "it looks huge, and what's that [dashboard] meant to be, some deer antlers or my thong?"
Can't unsee that.
For me, the problem is, it's a pretty big car that's designed to look sporty, and given what the marketing bumph says, it'll be competing in a pretty crowded market segment. Given that when I searched "Cupra Tavascan" in Google, one of the first things that popped up was "is Cupra a Chinese brand?" - perhaps they need to market themselves before throwing car designs at us. I'm sure some of the older hands here will agree that this was the downfall of some manufacturers/brands over the years.
Also, ergonomically it seems a little odd. It's meant to be an SUV / practical car, yet the rear door handles look like they open upwards, or at least horizontally, yet they're at a height where kids can't let themselves into the car. You spend £50k on a posh Cupra and you have to get out to open the door for your kids? Something isn't right there.
Out of interest I shared this with a colleague, as she's been thinking of going electric. Her take was "it looks huge, and what's that [dashboard] meant to be, some deer antlers or my thong?"
Can't unsee that.
I find sporty SUVs a bit pointless.
Yeah, they put wide tyres on and they will just about stay on the road driven briskly, but at the expense of constantly lunching sets of tyres if you drive them hard.
I managed to destroy a set of PS4s on an M50d in about an hour of spirited driving, and then also had brake fade followed by the brakes locking on when parked.
If you want to make a sporty car then EVs with all the battery weight aren't a great start. Adding EV into the mix of a porky SUV and it's only getting worse. Make it a pointless X6 clone SUV "coupe"..... yeah, I'm out.
Yeah, they put wide tyres on and they will just about stay on the road driven briskly, but at the expense of constantly lunching sets of tyres if you drive them hard.
I managed to destroy a set of PS4s on an M50d in about an hour of spirited driving, and then also had brake fade followed by the brakes locking on when parked.
If you want to make a sporty car then EVs with all the battery weight aren't a great start. Adding EV into the mix of a porky SUV and it's only getting worse. Make it a pointless X6 clone SUV "coupe"..... yeah, I'm out.
They had to work around the limitations imposed by the platform. Accommodating all the batteries in a layer on car bottom it will push the car interior up and make the car look like a blob. So Seat did some design tricks to try hiding that blobby shape by using all those edges, ornaments. Still did not solve the blob issue but mitigated it a bit.
Props to them for the interior, for being original and imaginative. Unlike regular electrics that have that poverty dash: lousy beam with a steering and tablet stuck into it.
Props to them for the interior, for being original and imaginative. Unlike regular electrics that have that poverty dash: lousy beam with a steering and tablet stuck into it.
spookly said:
I find sporty SUVs a bit pointless.
Yeah, they put wide tyres on and they will just about stay on the road driven briskly, but at the expense of constantly lunching sets of tyres if you drive them hard.
I managed to destroy a set of PS4s on an M50d in about an hour of spirited driving, and then also had brake fade followed by the brakes locking on when parked.
If you want to make a sporty car then EVs with all the battery weight aren't a great start. Adding EV into the mix of a porky SUV and it's only getting worse. Make it a pointless X6 clone SUV "coupe"..... yeah, I'm out.
"Sporty" SUVs are gluttons fantasy: big car to look at plebs from the above, fast, performant, expensive, all comfort, full of all possible/impossible optionals, status symbol to show off. Unfortunately the fast, performant is just in their immagination.Yeah, they put wide tyres on and they will just about stay on the road driven briskly, but at the expense of constantly lunching sets of tyres if you drive them hard.
I managed to destroy a set of PS4s on an M50d in about an hour of spirited driving, and then also had brake fade followed by the brakes locking on when parked.
If you want to make a sporty car then EVs with all the battery weight aren't a great start. Adding EV into the mix of a porky SUV and it's only getting worse. Make it a pointless X6 clone SUV "coupe"..... yeah, I'm out.
GT9 said:
"On UK roads I drive everywhere at 10/10ths on the very ragged edge of grip all year round, and therefore these sporty SUVs are completely pointless."
Said every Forza wannabe...
Meanwhile, in the real world, this car will suit most people most of the time.
Or. Like every other SUV Coupe it’ll be a poorly packaged, unnecessarily big car doing a job that a decent hatch or family estate can do so much better. Said every Forza wannabe...
Meanwhile, in the real world, this car will suit most people most of the time.
GT9 said:
"On UK roads I drive everywhere at 10/10ths on the very ragged edge of grip all year round, and therefore these sporty SUVs are completely pointless."
Said every Forza wannabe...
Meanwhile, in the real world, this car will suit most people most of the time.
I think you are missing the point. It's Cupra that are selling the thing as a sports car when anyone who knows anything about driving a car briskly, knows this isn't that. The point of many of the comments is that Said every Forza wannabe...
Meanwhile, in the real world, this car will suit most people most of the time.
It's all marketing fluff designed for the show off and wannabe that had to trade in their golf R for something that will fit a pram and 3 kids.
No, nobody drives at 10 10ths all the time, but I see the point of many of the comments with regard to this being sold as something sporty when all it actually is, is a Zafira alternative for those that want to look cool but don't really care about anything to do with the driving experience.
I'm sure it will sell well, but it's not my cup of tea...
Gweeds said:
GT9 said:
"On UK roads I drive everywhere at 10/10ths on the very ragged edge of grip all year round, and therefore these sporty SUVs are completely pointless."
Said every Forza wannabe...
Meanwhile, in the real world, this car will suit most people most of the time.
Or. Like every other SUV Coupe it’ll be a poorly packaged, unnecessarily big car doing a job that a decent hatch or family estate can do so much better. Said every Forza wannabe...
Meanwhile, in the real world, this car will suit most people most of the time.
I think people here are overly negative. If you look at the video of the vehicle - the outside looks spectacular (compared to ID5 and Enyaq especially).
The interior tho - I wish they did not slap that screen on the dash like an afterthought - and instead built it into the dash like the bigger brother Audi does. Interior looks good but this large slapped-on screen combined with the tiny driver's screen are huge design mistakes. VW brand does the same. Tesla really messed up interior design for everyone by setting a ridiculous example that others started to emulate. I am glad Audi or BMW are not following it.
The interior tho - I wish they did not slap that screen on the dash like an afterthought - and instead built it into the dash like the bigger brother Audi does. Interior looks good but this large slapped-on screen combined with the tiny driver's screen are huge design mistakes. VW brand does the same. Tesla really messed up interior design for everyone by setting a ridiculous example that others started to emulate. I am glad Audi or BMW are not following it.
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