RE: Behold the limited edition Ineos Grenadier 1924

RE: Behold the limited edition Ineos Grenadier 1924

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BrownEaredDog

442 posts

103 months

Thursday 16th May
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Rusty Old-Banger said:
BrownEaredDog said:
Lester H said:
Rusty Old-Banger said:
Looking more and more like a Mahindra Bolero every day.
Got me there! I had to look that one up. They’re as cheap as chips and it seems that they do a few variants. I wonder if four of us should meet in a ( suitably expensive) pub and discuss importing them.
Blimey, news to me as well. Just look at those splendid digital instruments: mk.2 Astra GTE eat your heart out.

More Montego Turbo biggrin
That's the one! I knew there was a better match than the Astra. Thanks smile

Lefty

16,207 posts

204 months

Thursday 16th May
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smilo996 said:
A special edition pulled straight from a marketing concept workshop.
No heritage, no inherent link between a European vehicle owned by a Monaco based chemical boss and a company making waxed clothing. About as original as the Grenadier itself. Perfect then.
Still a fugly and disingenuous pastiche.
Ratcliffe owns Belstaff

Rusty Old-Banger

4,127 posts

215 months

Thursday 16th May
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BrownEaredDog said:
Rusty Old-Banger said:
BrownEaredDog said:
Lester H said:
Rusty Old-Banger said:
Looking more and more like a Mahindra Bolero every day.
Got me there! I had to look that one up. They’re as cheap as chips and it seems that they do a few variants. I wonder if four of us should meet in a ( suitably expensive) pub and discuss importing them.
Blimey, news to me as well. Just look at those splendid digital instruments: mk.2 Astra GTE eat your heart out.

More Montego Turbo biggrin
That's the one! I knew there was a better match than the Astra. Thanks smile
We are showing our ages...

loudlashadjuster

5,206 posts

186 months

Thursday 16th May
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LotusMac22 said:
The Manchester United of cars.

Overpriced, underperforms, used to be good
Used to be good? When would that be? They've only recently been released.

Lester H

2,773 posts

107 months

Thursday 16th May
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nismo48 said:
MarkJS said:
Looks like it was designed & built in 1924.
biglaugh
Not sure about the build though Old Henry would recognise a ladder chassis but many 1924 designs were much superior to many of today’s. How many posts are there about the ugliness and obesity of many current cars?

thargon

22 posts

52 months

Saturday 18th May
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Cups Renault said:
Ah the Frankenstein box, built on Jim's imagination of the sunlit Brexit could mean but then scrapped on account of it being all bs and built back in the EU where the twonk non domiciles himself; when not trying to mug the government off into getting the tax payer to build him a stadium for the club he definitely always supported, when he wasn't a season ticket holder at another club

The box on wheels has such a post Brexit whiff to it you'd have to be labelled naive (and blind) to drive such a thing built by someone doing so well at being hateful
Don't hold back eh - tell us what you really think!

thargon

22 posts

52 months

Saturday 18th May
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It's so odd to me that a man with such a ruthless money making mind chose to burn x hundred million on this thing. Even if he had a longer term plan beyond this model there are so many better options than the one he chose. Why not just license more existing tech like they did with the gearbox and engine? What is the market? Why is it so damned ugly

DonkeyApple

55,883 posts

171 months

Saturday 18th May
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thargon said:
It's so odd to me that a man with such a ruthless money making mind chose to burn x hundred million on this thing. Even if he had a longer term plan beyond this model there are so many better options than the one he chose. Why not just license more existing tech like they did with the gearbox and engine? What is the market? Why is it so damned ugly
Shifty old geezer used to being given the unwanted assets of successful businesses has a temper tantrum when told to bugger off by JLR and decides to teach them a lesson by building his own Defender absolutely convinced that tens of thousands of people still want old Defenders, not new ones. Spends 5 years learning why JLR were right and he wasn't but not about to consume any humble pie just keeps doubling down until behold!! A Franco German budget G Wagon based on an English Defender sort of thing emerges, bangs in 12 months of deliveries on a 5 year backed up order book and then sees demand drop to the natural level which might be too low for that expensive Merc factory and its very expensive to bin French labour force.

In reality it does look like a nice car. A solid, chunky thing that will take decades to rust away and just keep working. The issue is that it was born from a grandpa's little tantrum and became mired in a bucket of old man Brexit/hydrogen/empire bingo bullst which will take some years to soften in the U.K. but hopefully in other key markets such as the US, Aus etc it does well enough to keep going and for the negative image Ratboy created for his car in the U.K. to fade.

Bill

53,041 posts

257 months

Saturday 18th May
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It would be ironic if they gave up trying to sell it in the UK.

fortfive

135 posts

61 months

Tuesday 21st May
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Looks good to me as an LC owner. Only the steering and RHD footwell puts me off, I'll have to find a LHD example to check out. They seem to be selling well in the USA so I hope they do very well with their business.

Lotobear

6,509 posts

130 months

Tuesday 21st May
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Like the car but don't like the whole Belstaff thing.

Belstaff is the middle aged, middle class white blokes idea of a cool brand - it's up there with wearing a replica Steve McQueen Gulf jacket in the coolness (not) stakes.

DonkeyApple

55,883 posts

171 months

Tuesday 21st May
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Lotobear said:
Like the car but don't like the whole Belstaff thing.

Belstaff is the middle aged, middle class white blokes idea of a cool brand - it's up there with wearing a replica Steve McQueen Gulf jacket in the coolness (not) stakes.
The precise demographic with the money to purchase a vehicle they don't need for a spot of fun. No point teaming up with Primark or a Kardashian.

swisstoni

17,174 posts

281 months

Tuesday 21st May
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Lotobear said:
Like the car but don't like the whole Belstaff thing.

Belstaff is the middle aged, middle class white blokes idea of a cool brand - it's up there with wearing a replica Steve McQueen Gulf jacket in the coolness (not) stakes.
Alright Gok.

Lotobear

6,509 posts

130 months

Tuesday 21st May
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swisstoni said:
Lotobear said:
Like the car but don't like the whole Belstaff thing.

Belstaff is the middle aged, middle class white blokes idea of a cool brand - it's up there with wearing a replica Steve McQueen Gulf jacket in the coolness (not) stakes.
Alright Gok.
...you've got that Gulf Jacket, haven't you? biglaugh