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Has anyone tried this yet ?
http://www.terraclean.co.uk/
I saw Mr Ed China use it on a recent wheeler dealer episode and he seemed impressed (he must have been as he's now advertising it)
We've added a Cooper S to the fleet and they are dreadful for carbon build up so I hear so I thought it might be worth the £100.
Any real life experiences out there ?
http://www.terraclean.co.uk/
I saw Mr Ed China use it on a recent wheeler dealer episode and he seemed impressed (he must have been as he's now advertising it)
We've added a Cooper S to the fleet and they are dreadful for carbon build up so I hear so I thought it might be worth the £100.
Any real life experiences out there ?
watching the video of how it works, it hooks up concentrated injector cleaner to the fuel rail, that will be very good for clearing blocked injectors, but as for the rest of the claims, it will be little different than putting a can of fuel system snake oil in the tank.
For the cooper S this is not going to be a lot of help, the problem with carbon build up there is specifically to do with it being direct injection and parts of the engine that never get touched by fuel or the detergents in it getting carbon build up from pcv gases.
For the cooper S this is not going to be a lot of help, the problem with carbon build up there is specifically to do with it being direct injection and parts of the engine that never get touched by fuel or the detergents in it getting carbon build up from pcv gases.
My results as posted on another forum.
Its a new process that de-carbonises your engine from injectors to CATs and reduces emissions, that may be useful if you have any problems getting your car through an MOT.
Look here:
http://www.terraclean.co.uk/video.html
I had a chat with the blokes at the NEC Classic Car Show and took the plunge yesterday.
I did wonder if the process would work but you can see the results here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/garyharman/sets/72157...
This is with a Marcos Mantis with a Mustang 4.6 32V engine, WITH OUT CATS. (Exhaust air recirculation bits also removed.)
After the process my car PASSED an MOT emissions test with out CATS.
Just thought it might be of use.
This was carried out by Grease Monkies, Eastern Road, Bracknell, RG12 2UP Tel: 01344 866999 (Owned by Ed China.)
The cost is £80+vat for up to 2ltr engines, £90+vat for larger engines.
The process takes around an hour in total, and excellent service.
If you book in say that they were recommended and you may get a discount.
Its a new process that de-carbonises your engine from injectors to CATs and reduces emissions, that may be useful if you have any problems getting your car through an MOT.
Look here:
http://www.terraclean.co.uk/video.html
I had a chat with the blokes at the NEC Classic Car Show and took the plunge yesterday.
I did wonder if the process would work but you can see the results here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/garyharman/sets/72157...
This is with a Marcos Mantis with a Mustang 4.6 32V engine, WITH OUT CATS. (Exhaust air recirculation bits also removed.)
After the process my car PASSED an MOT emissions test with out CATS.
Just thought it might be of use.
This was carried out by Grease Monkies, Eastern Road, Bracknell, RG12 2UP Tel: 01344 866999 (Owned by Ed China.)
The cost is £80+vat for up to 2ltr engines, £90+vat for larger engines.
The process takes around an hour in total, and excellent service.
If you book in say that they were recommended and you may get a discount.
Here's a link giving a different view with photos. Seems to be a waste of money.
http://forum.bmw5.co.uk/topic/76184-terra-clean-m5...
http://forum.bmw5.co.uk/topic/76184-terra-clean-m5...
i just can't see how they can claim what they are claiming myself. the only way to clean carbon off a piston and associated components is to take them out of the engine soak them overnight in a non corrosive cleaner/thinners and then scrub LAMF, and it's still like cow s@#t to move.
I don't know of any chemical that can be put through the fuel system and do the same job without knackering something on the way through...i'm open to information that states otherwise with evidence to back it up as said above by vindaloorear
I don't know of any chemical that can be put through the fuel system and do the same job without knackering something on the way through...i'm open to information that states otherwise with evidence to back it up as said above by vindaloorear
currybum said:
I had an email discussion with theses guys after a friend asked me about it, they didn't have any testing to back up the claims, no SAE papers published on the system and could provide me with no park passable mechanism as to how it might do what they said it could.
They also couldn't answer my questions about the lubricity of the flush and if it meets the fuel system requirement of the car I was asking about, just to give some confidence that the flush was not going to bork the high pressure system.
My opinion was that it was snake oil which could potentially damage a very expensive chunk of an engine.
I expect that they will be on here taking about happy customers but with no data to back up the claims.
But I'm more than happy to have my mind changed by some good testing data.
I'm not sure that branding it snake oil is the correct approach. It's a franchise in the UK so your email conversations will likely be with some fat gobste fresh from a training course and not an educated/experienced mechanic. They also couldn't answer my questions about the lubricity of the flush and if it meets the fuel system requirement of the car I was asking about, just to give some confidence that the flush was not going to bork the high pressure system.
My opinion was that it was snake oil which could potentially damage a very expensive chunk of an engine.
I expect that they will be on here taking about happy customers but with no data to back up the claims.
But I'm more than happy to have my mind changed by some good testing data.
An old post but, here are my findings having two cars terracleaned in the past.
Both had failed MOT on emissions and passed the 2 days after the initial test and 24hrs after the treatment
1) 1996 Jaguar XK8 - done in 2008 (long before Ed China)
2) 2007 Audi A6 quattro Tdi done in 2013
Whether an Italian tune up would have done just a good a job is unclear, but both cars never failed an emissions test afterwards.
I suspect that it is a good preventative treatment, however neither of the above cars are known to have their nutz thrashed off or be favoured by those that will use/abuse street race.
If you're buying a car of this type there's a good chance it'll have quite a lot of carbon, which is weird as most of that crowd seem to favour 'shell wallet cleanser' albeit only in £5-£10 quantities
I'm going to have my newest ride terracleaned next week, yep it's a DI recently dyno'd at 545...pic attached...and no I don't leave it on jacks...it was being paint corrected/detailed/sealed in October when I bought it
Both had failed MOT on emissions and passed the 2 days after the initial test and 24hrs after the treatment
1) 1996 Jaguar XK8 - done in 2008 (long before Ed China)
2) 2007 Audi A6 quattro Tdi done in 2013
Whether an Italian tune up would have done just a good a job is unclear, but both cars never failed an emissions test afterwards.
I suspect that it is a good preventative treatment, however neither of the above cars are known to have their nutz thrashed off or be favoured by those that will use/abuse street race.
If you're buying a car of this type there's a good chance it'll have quite a lot of carbon, which is weird as most of that crowd seem to favour 'shell wallet cleanser' albeit only in £5-£10 quantities
I'm going to have my newest ride terracleaned next week, yep it's a DI recently dyno'd at 545...pic attached...and no I don't leave it on jacks...it was being paint corrected/detailed/sealed in October when I bought it
Anyone who has had a cyclinder head off the car will know that this stuff is complete snake oil.
Carbon on pistons and cylinder heads does not dissolve in anything that you could buy commercially or use outside a laboratory. There are probably some organic acids that could do it, but these are not the sort of things that you find in garages because they tend to dissolve people as well.
The only way you can get carbon off a head is by mechanical means (wire brushes and the like) or by really long term steam cleaning (which is why pistons in engines with busted head gaskets are often shiny clean).
It’s no different to the Redex stuff that was sold in the 90s. Pour some oil in your intake, look, smoke (of course bloody smoke, you’re burning oil) and a short term octane boost from some aromatics in the mixtures.
Carbon on pistons and cylinder heads does not dissolve in anything that you could buy commercially or use outside a laboratory. There are probably some organic acids that could do it, but these are not the sort of things that you find in garages because they tend to dissolve people as well.
The only way you can get carbon off a head is by mechanical means (wire brushes and the like) or by really long term steam cleaning (which is why pistons in engines with busted head gaskets are often shiny clean).
It’s no different to the Redex stuff that was sold in the 90s. Pour some oil in your intake, look, smoke (of course bloody smoke, you’re burning oil) and a short term octane boost from some aromatics in the mixtures.
rxe said:
Anyone who has had a cyclinder head off the car will know that this stuff is complete snake oil.
Carbon on pistons and cylinder heads does not dissolve in anything that you could buy commercially or use outside a laboratory. There are probably some organic acids that could do it, but these are not the sort of things that you find in garages because they tend to dissolve people as well.
The only way you can get carbon off a head is by mechanical means (wire brushes and the like) or by really long term steam cleaning (which is why pistons in engines with busted head gaskets are often shiny clean).
It’s no different to the Redex stuff that was sold in the 90s. Pour some oil in your intake, look, smoke (of course bloody smoke, you’re burning oil) and a short term octane boost from some aromatics in the mixtures.
You can easily clean carbon off the pistons etc. as anyone who has had headgasket failure will tell you. Water at high temperatures and under pressure will do a great job My XKR had headgasket issues and the pistons were looking great. I've had my BMW diesel Terracleaned at 105K miles. It's only had long journeys since and returns a couple of mpg more than it used to and now has 156K miles on it. I had the job done in case it was a missfire causing the engine vibration, turned out however it was failing DMF.Carbon on pistons and cylinder heads does not dissolve in anything that you could buy commercially or use outside a laboratory. There are probably some organic acids that could do it, but these are not the sort of things that you find in garages because they tend to dissolve people as well.
The only way you can get carbon off a head is by mechanical means (wire brushes and the like) or by really long term steam cleaning (which is why pistons in engines with busted head gaskets are often shiny clean).
It’s no different to the Redex stuff that was sold in the 90s. Pour some oil in your intake, look, smoke (of course bloody smoke, you’re burning oil) and a short term octane boost from some aromatics in the mixtures.
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