New definition of quick. 0 -100 mph time
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Road going 0-100 4.92 seconds
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/motorbikes/672...
^^ posted 6 years ago so their is going to be faster possibly now
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/motorbikes/672...
^^ posted 6 years ago so their is going to be faster possibly now
Just found this list online of supposedly sub 6 seconds to 100mph cars...
SSC Ultimate Aero TT - [2008] 0 to 100 mph time - 4.6 seconds
Porsche 9FF GT9R - [2009] 0 to 100 mph time - 4.9 seconds
Caparo T1 3.5l V8 - [2007] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.0 seconds
TVR Cerbera Speed 12 - [2000] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.0 seconds
Koenigsegg Agera 5L V8 - [2011] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.1 seconds
Koenigsegg CCX R Special Edition 4.8 V8 S - [2008] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.1 seconds
Koenigsegg CCR 4.7 V8 Supercharged - [2005] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.2 seconds
Koenigsegg CCX 4.7 V8 Supercharged - [2006] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.2 seconds
Koenigsegg CCX 4.7 V8 Supercharged - [2006] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.2 seconds
Hennessey Venom GT - [2010] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.3 seconds
Ultima GTR 720 - [2000] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.3 seconds
Ariel Atom V8 500 - [2008] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.4 seconds
Caparo T1 2.4 V8 - [2006] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.5 seconds
Porsche 9FF GT9 - [2008] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.5 seconds
Bugatti Veyron 8.0 litre W16 - [2005] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.7 seconds
Ascari A10 5.0 V8 - [2006] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.8 seconds
Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4 - [2011] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.9 seconds
SSC Ultimate Aero TT - [2008] 0 to 100 mph time - 4.6 seconds
Porsche 9FF GT9R - [2009] 0 to 100 mph time - 4.9 seconds
Caparo T1 3.5l V8 - [2007] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.0 seconds
TVR Cerbera Speed 12 - [2000] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.0 seconds
Koenigsegg Agera 5L V8 - [2011] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.1 seconds
Koenigsegg CCX R Special Edition 4.8 V8 S - [2008] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.1 seconds
Koenigsegg CCR 4.7 V8 Supercharged - [2005] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.2 seconds
Koenigsegg CCX 4.7 V8 Supercharged - [2006] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.2 seconds
Koenigsegg CCX 4.7 V8 Supercharged - [2006] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.2 seconds
Hennessey Venom GT - [2010] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.3 seconds
Ultima GTR 720 - [2000] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.3 seconds
Ariel Atom V8 500 - [2008] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.4 seconds
Caparo T1 2.4 V8 - [2006] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.5 seconds
Porsche 9FF GT9 - [2008] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.5 seconds
Bugatti Veyron 8.0 litre W16 - [2005] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.7 seconds
Ascari A10 5.0 V8 - [2006] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.8 seconds
Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4 - [2011] 0 to 100 mph time - 5.9 seconds
I don't think this is how it works
you don't get to make the rules
0-60 is what people are used to, all the data is there and people know what it means. If you want one with wider differences, why not look at 1/4 mile times, this is something which is as old as 0-60 times.
0-60 has some advantages over 0-100, it is targeted at what it is measuring, and that is off the line speed, you get a good combination of measuring the power, and how it puts it down, so gear ratios, gear shift times and traction all make a big difference to 0-60 times.
Once you get taking a car into to higher speeds, it becomes less important how the power is transmitted, and more about how much grunt it has relative to it's weight.
you don't get to make the rules
0-60 is what people are used to, all the data is there and people know what it means. If you want one with wider differences, why not look at 1/4 mile times, this is something which is as old as 0-60 times.
0-60 has some advantages over 0-100, it is targeted at what it is measuring, and that is off the line speed, you get a good combination of measuring the power, and how it puts it down, so gear ratios, gear shift times and traction all make a big difference to 0-60 times.
Once you get taking a car into to higher speeds, it becomes less important how the power is transmitted, and more about how much grunt it has relative to it's weight.
robinessex said:
I've decided that the old 0-60 sprint is obsolete, that a 0-100 is the new standard.
You're half a century too late.....0-60mph as a yardstick became obsolete back in 1965 when the Cobra 427 cracked 0-100mph in 10 secs, when 0-60 in 10secs was considered a 'fast' car.....!!
10secs to a 100 is still quick 50 years later, but it was 'millennium falcon' quick back in 1965 when most of the cars sold actually couldn't even do 100mph!!!
0-100 still takes into account traction as well as grunt. I think its a pretty good indication of what a cars capable of.
None of those cars are quick though they are properly fast.
My car does 100 in around 14 seconds. As a 0-60 its about 5 seconds. So the latter is primarily about traction. 0-100 then shows thats after that 5 seconds its not massively grunty.
None of those cars are quick though they are properly fast.
My car does 100 in around 14 seconds. As a 0-60 its about 5 seconds. So the latter is primarily about traction. 0-100 then shows thats after that 5 seconds its not massively grunty.
I think increments of speed once moving are more relevant to the driving experience: 30-70 is quite a good indicator of how it will feel on the road; 60-100 will tell you how much puff it has; 100-140 will separate the very fast from the insanely fast
On the road, the biggest difference between fast and normal cars is that fast ones spend almost no time to get back to 60mph + after slow corners on A and B roads. Most reasonably powerful cars are too fast to use WOT on the motorway (except on the slip road), so high speed acceleration doesn't really factor in what I would want in a road car. Nice short gears and about 200bhp/ton is what you want.
On the road, the biggest difference between fast and normal cars is that fast ones spend almost no time to get back to 60mph + after slow corners on A and B roads. Most reasonably powerful cars are too fast to use WOT on the motorway (except on the slip road), so high speed acceleration doesn't really factor in what I would want in a road car. Nice short gears and about 200bhp/ton is what you want.
MrBarry123 said:
0-100mph in <6 seconds = quick
PH strikes again.
Didn't we have almost an identical thread about 2 weeks ago?
Yes. PH strikes again.
Didn't we have almost an identical thread about 2 weeks ago?
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Speed addicted said:
I always find it amazing how much power these things can put to the road before they start wheelying. Presumably there has been major focus on driving the CoG on modern superbikes downwards? 300bhp/litre from a production engine is quite silly.
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