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I want to go into bat with herindoors over her hideous Pug807 – with the perfect result being her compliance with my (and for that read “combined wisdom from here") suggestion for an alternative.
Her needs are:
1. 7 seats. (with seats 6&7 being suitable for a currently 12yr old + 3years replacement cycle)
2. Easy to park – supermarket, school run, coffee shop etc.
3. Not horrendous on fuel.
4. Loads of EuroEncaps.
But.. what she really needs but neither recognises she needs, nor will admit :
5. Something with a bit of style and performance.
6. A cavernous boot for when (most of the time) seats 6&7 are not in use.
7. Something that I would be prepared to be seen in, and can drive for prolonged periods of time ( the hideous Pugthing is the most uncomfortable car I ever drove), as importantly this unlocks options as to what I can have next time I change mine.
If we said absolute absolute max budget of £12-15k assuming zero value on the tradein. Fuel consumption not massively important (10,000 miles pa) ditto VED or even Insurance
I did , some months ago, suggest WE go look at an XC90 , but she went without me but with the kids and placed 6’4” 16yr old in seat 6 and declared Volvo’s as “too small” – I think this was an unfair test so its not “out of the game” , but I will have work to do to get her to revisit that.
Any suggestions?
Personally, I think she'd be better off with a 5seater estate, but the specification of 7 appears immovable despite my protestations that its only to either a) move other people's kids about or b) comes with such a premium that on the rare occasion we need it, we take 2 cars.
Her needs are:
1. 7 seats. (with seats 6&7 being suitable for a currently 12yr old + 3years replacement cycle)
2. Easy to park – supermarket, school run, coffee shop etc.
3. Not horrendous on fuel.
4. Loads of EuroEncaps.
But.. what she really needs but neither recognises she needs, nor will admit :
5. Something with a bit of style and performance.
6. A cavernous boot for when (most of the time) seats 6&7 are not in use.
7. Something that I would be prepared to be seen in, and can drive for prolonged periods of time ( the hideous Pugthing is the most uncomfortable car I ever drove), as importantly this unlocks options as to what I can have next time I change mine.
If we said absolute absolute max budget of £12-15k assuming zero value on the tradein. Fuel consumption not massively important (10,000 miles pa) ditto VED or even Insurance
I did , some months ago, suggest WE go look at an XC90 , but she went without me but with the kids and placed 6’4” 16yr old in seat 6 and declared Volvo’s as “too small” – I think this was an unfair test so its not “out of the game” , but I will have work to do to get her to revisit that.
Any suggestions?
Personally, I think she'd be better off with a 5seater estate, but the specification of 7 appears immovable despite my protestations that its only to either a) move other people's kids about or b) comes with such a premium that on the rare occasion we need it, we take 2 cars.
rayyan171 said:
Surprised she didn't like it... My 13 year old son fits in the xc90 perfectly and it's very spacious, it's very easy to drive aswell
Yeah, I was suprised too.. (and I was also suprised that its general Volvoness didnt score any points - she's previously "shortened" a V70 and it performed fantastically well with symmetrical crumplage) but installing eldest daughters oversized "special friend" in the rear was unfair. bobbo89 said:
Now that I do like. SteBrown91 said:
Ford S max all day long
The Titanium X Sport comes with skirts, big wheels and lots of kit. Easily within your budget:
Diesle
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2013...
Picture 7 suggests dodgy engine mountings to me... The Titanium X Sport comes with skirts, big wheels and lots of kit. Easily within your budget:
Diesle
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2013...
Lots of votes for S-Max, thanks - will go have a look
Thanks.
Pints said:
Legroom picture 9 says not. Thanks though. sprouting said:
Try one of these, easier to drive/manoeuvre than the size suggests
Oh I concur completely. If it were possible for me to have a Brabus Vito dualiner (LWB) for work, AND get an MB approved seat fitter to add 2 more (removable) seats to the back WITHOUT the Vito loosing its "commercial vehicle" classification, then I wouldn't have made the thread as I'd have done that already and be steering her towards a chunky estate with 5seats and a boot > weekly shop.
As the Vito would be coming from a different budget, we'd end up spending (personally) a lot less, and potentially get more use out of my company vehicle - win win. But the numbers dont stack up if it looses its commercial status.
Edited by jellypig on Sunday 29th December 16:52
morgrp said:
^^^This if she can't be coaxed into a volvo
S-max is a decent enough steer - drove one to Austria last year and it was potent enough (2.0 diesel,)comfortable, reasonable on juice and swallowed up 4 adults and all our ski gear, then did several airport runs picking up 6/7 people at a time whilst over there. Look quite nice for an MPV too - I'd rather a Volvo estate with 7 seats but hey ho, If the 6' 4" "child" is 16 surely he'll be looking at driving his own car in a years time and won't be an issue for much longer?
We've been through 7 seater Volvo estates, and the rear two seats are too small. We both have a fondness for them too, she (quite spectacularly actually) shortened hers and it did what it says on the tin, crumpled symmetrically and they walked away. Mine was a bit different with an R badge on the back. S-max is a decent enough steer - drove one to Austria last year and it was potent enough (2.0 diesel,)comfortable, reasonable on juice and swallowed up 4 adults and all our ski gear, then did several airport runs picking up 6/7 people at a time whilst over there. Look quite nice for an MPV too - I'd rather a Volvo estate with 7 seats but hey ho, If the 6' 4" "child" is 16 surely he'll be looking at driving his own car in a years time and won't be an issue for much longer?
and I miss it so. As for 16yr old, now 17, have you tried getting an insurance quote? (He is my eldest's "special friend" and hence as her father I am actually quite comfortable with the fact that insurance is proving to be a barrier) - and hence the need for 6seats as he trails round with us, and with other children who probably also acquire same in short order - the need will grow to 7.
Sadly, she has deemed (largely unseen) that an S-Max and XC90 are too small no matter how competent a vehicle they are, sorry suggestees. So am secretly compiling a database of (7seat) R-Class's for sale locally such that we might "accidentally" end up the right parish. "Well... we might as well have a look whilst were here...."
I don't expect to succeed, and sense replacement big MPV on the horizon, but as I said in the OP, part of my rationale is not only to sort this one out, but if properly done it unlocks options as to what change my vehicle(s) for later...
Chaps, again thanks for your sage guidance.
Fortune has struck me a lucky blow - the hideous Pugthing has failed to start this morning, and she's had to take m'truck.
(There must be something draining the battery, though its also always been very slow to crank.. but never commanded enough interest from me to take a look)
She will return in 2.5hours, time I shall use productively to search the local market though conveniently I saw this http://www.driving.co.uk/clarkson/8979 this earlier and had already mentioned it to her along the lines of
"Jeremy Clarkson, a man who has the means to buy/scam/borrow any car he wishes, and also, like us, dear, has 3 orfspring, has only ever had the same car once, in fact he's had 3 - Volvo XC90s. Shall we go look at them?"
Her response was "I'm late for rowing" - but the more astute will notice that that didnt include a "No". I'm taking that as win/progress.
I think my preference is probably(bearing in mind her spec) for an R-Class, but a Volvo or S-Max will do, so long as we wave off 807.
Fortune has struck me a lucky blow - the hideous Pugthing has failed to start this morning, and she's had to take m'truck.
(There must be something draining the battery, though its also always been very slow to crank.. but never commanded enough interest from me to take a look)
She will return in 2.5hours, time I shall use productively to search the local market though conveniently I saw this http://www.driving.co.uk/clarkson/8979 this earlier and had already mentioned it to her along the lines of
"Jeremy Clarkson, a man who has the means to buy/scam/borrow any car he wishes, and also, like us, dear, has 3 orfspring, has only ever had the same car once, in fact he's had 3 - Volvo XC90s. Shall we go look at them?"
Her response was "I'm late for rowing" - but the more astute will notice that that didnt include a "No". I'm taking that as win/progress.
I think my preference is probably(bearing in mind her spec) for an R-Class, but a Volvo or S-Max will do, so long as we wave off 807.
Thank you. I had sought the sage guidance of this forum, so thought it fair to report in the result.
She seems happy with it, and thats good enough for me. I've had to do a bit of "tech support" so far, and apparently its a "bit nippier" so am just silently debating if I aught to bring teatime conversation round to the subject of BHP/tonne
She seems happy with it, and thats good enough for me. I've had to do a bit of "tech support" so far, and apparently its a "bit nippier" so am just silently debating if I aught to bring teatime conversation round to the subject of BHP/tonne
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