Auto gearbox efficiency

Auto gearbox efficiency

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Rovinghawk

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Friday 24th January 2014
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I'm curious- what is the most efficient speed for a torque converter gearbox?

At very low engine speed the car doesn't move if there's even a little braking force. Also at high speeds there will be appreciable friction losses.

What sort of speed is the most efficient? Would an efficiency graph be similar to a car's power graph where it rises steadily to a peak then drops off a bit faster than it rose?

No particular reason for asking other than idle curiosity.

Rovinghawk

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Friday 24th January 2014
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kambites said:
I think a simple fluid coupling gains significant efficiency with speed, so the 'box is probably at its most efficient at peak RPM.
Does that compensate for increased frictional losses?

Rovinghawk

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Friday 24th January 2014
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jkh112 said:
At certain speeds torque converter boxes lock up and hence gain in efficiency. The exact speed at which this happens varies across a range of factors including gear, revs, box type, car manufacturer.
Specifically ZF 5HP24 but curious as a general concept.

Is the lock-up a mechanical device or how does it work?

Rovinghawk

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Thank you.

Rovinghawk

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Monday 27th January 2014
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Max_Torque said:
As mentioned, modern epicyclic wet disc clutch automatic gearboxes now have a 'fully rated' lock up clutch on the torque convertor.
When you say modern, since what sort of date?